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    Re: Hegel 590

    Nice!

    What's the other Hegel on the bottom shelf? H190??
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    Re: Hegel 590

    Quote Originally Posted by rrwmd View Post
    Nice!

    What's the other Hegel on the bottom shelf? H190??
    That’s the Hegel 360. Another beauty at its price point. Great built in DAC’s in both.


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    Re: Hegel 590

    $12K List?

    Interesting they list 301 WPC, not 300

    Looks nice, does it beat the Pass INTS?
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    Re: Hegel 590

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowfax View Post
    $12K List?

    Interesting they list 301 WPC, not 300

    Looks nice, does it beat the Pass INTS?
    $11k


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    Re: Hegel 590

    I can only imagine how nice it sounds. I traded a component for a 190, which I use in a secondary system. Sounds really nice.
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    Re: Hegel 590

    Mike, a comparison with the Gryphon Diablo 300 will be most interesting!
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    Re: Hegel 590

    Quote Originally Posted by bart View Post
    Mike, a comparison with the Gryphon Diablo 300 will be most interesting!
    Come on over and you can compare. Hegel 590


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    Re: Hegel 590

    MIke, are you considering Hegel, or, picked it up already?

    I find Hegel a good performer for the money but I think people will have to hear them to understand the sound. I haven't heard the 590 but spent time with a 360, a great deal of control and seems to lean a bit analytical in my opinion. I also couldn't make my mind to adjust to the soundstage, how it gives the further back in the venue sense, made instruments sound smaller on many recordings. Not identical, however, Hegel reminds me some of classic Krell the way it has an iron grip on the sound and seemingly endless power.

    When I got the HD30 I found my system having better synergy with the Coda opposed to the Levinson power amp. The Coda is warmer and fuller bass.

    Brian, I'd say the Hegel and Pass are near opposite ends of the spectrum sonically.

    I'd like to hear the 590, to see how or if it differs from the smaller integrateds in the line. The HD30 has some of the characters I mentioned but it's more addicting with a quiet background like I've not heard before and excellent detail.
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    Re: Hegel 590

    Picked it up already. I liked the 590 (what I read) and the 360 offers “good cheap power” with a built in DAC for all my Magico A3 buyers (I order them three pairs at a time now.).


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    Re: Hegel 590

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Come on over and you can compare. Hegel 590


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    Re: Hegel 590

    Hi Mike, I have the h360 and would appreciate a comparison. Revel salon2's like power and the 590 is supposed to have double the current? of the h360?

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    Re: Hegel 590

    Quote Originally Posted by steve59 View Post
    Hi Mike, I have the h360 and would appreciate a comparison. Revel salon2's like power and the 590 is supposed to have double the current? of the h360?
    Similar in sound. The 590 is more effortless, more in reserve power.


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    Re: Hegel 590

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    Re: Hegel 590

    Wow, now I'm really curious to hear a 590. He seems to indicate the "fullness" is from the DAC for the most part. It would be interesting to hear a comparison to the HD30. The HD30 is a really good DAC but I wouldn't say it added any fullness to my system. In fact, as noted above, the Coda has better synergy to me ears.

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    Re: Hegel 590

    Now i'm wondering if my dealer will take my h360 back in trade?

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    Re: Hegel 590

    I have a couple of my customers also considering the trade-up from the H360 to the H590. I think it is going to be a very popular piece for Hegel.
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    Re: Hegel 590

    Does it really sound "fat" to you, as Darko says Mike?
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    Re: Hegel 590

    Quote Originally Posted by rrwmd View Post
    Does it really sound "fat" to you, as Darko says Mike?
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    Re: Hegel 590

    Quote Originally Posted by rrwmd View Post
    Does it really sound "fat" to you, as Darko says Mike?

    I guess it will sound "fatter" with Harbeth than with for example Magico or Vivid Audio.
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    Re: Hegel 590

    I assume the 590 is better overall than the 360 but is the character the same Hegel house sound, or, is there some actual departure??

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    Re: Hegel 590

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Peabody View Post
    I assume the 590 is better overall than the 360 but is the character the same Hegel house sound, or, is there some actual departure??
    Yes, same.


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    Re: Hegel 590

    The h360 really made the mids in my salon1's come alive compared to the parasound a21 and several other amps that I couldn't tell apart from each other. I would probably be smarter buying an h20 to bi amp my speakers since sometimes it really is power that brings out the most in speakers.

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    Re: Hegel 590

    Steve, my local Hegel dealer carries Revel, that is his favorite combo as well. He sold the Salon2's and is using the new 228b for now. Before that he used the Salon2's and really liked the synergy there.

    Just my opinion, I personally liked the Performa 2 series better than the 3, the Ultima is more like the 2. The 3 series to me has a more full or less controlled bass that I believe benefits from the Hegel.

    Quote Originally Posted by steve59 View Post
    The h360 really made the mids in my salon1's come alive compared to the parasound a21 and several other amps that I couldn't tell apart from each other. I would probably be smarter buying an h20 to bi amp my speakers since sometimes it really is power that brings out the most in speakers.
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    Re: Hegel 590

    I bought a PAIR OF F52'S after demoing the f208 and them side by side even though i conceded the f208 was more open and the drivers better integrated i still preferred the f 52 and if I owned the hegel at that time I probably would have been set. The salon2's are overkill for my room and income.
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    Re: Hegel 590

    I heard the 590 today. It was driving Revel 228b where a 360 had been. In my opinion the 590 is a departure and pretty big improvement over the 360.

    Where is it a departure, larger sound stage, the high end is more in the mix where it should be, most older Hegel models seem to have the cymbals pulled back a bit. man does the 590 have some clout in the bass, it's not intrusive but it hits hard, sound stage is more open and airy. Don't go thinking the 590 went all warm & fuzzy, it's not, however, I found it to be better tonally balanced with somehow smoother mids & highs. I say "somehow" because the highs are more prominent than in older models yet easier to listen to.

    I brought my DAC the HD30, I compared it to the built-in DAC of the Levinson 526 and the 590. Really the main differences between the 590 DAC and HD30, the HD30 is old school Hegel with a bit more condensed sound stage and highs were more back in the mix, the 590 DAC even had better bass control.

    I know the 590 isn't a budget unit but it is a bargain at the price, considering the DAC, IMO, edges out my HD30 which retailed at nearly half the 590 cost, and, the amp section is a monster. I was impressed.

    Maybe not exactly relevant to this thread, I also heard and know there's a difference in renders. During this listening session we tried a couple of streamers feeding the same external DAC and one was clearly better sounding.
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    Re: Hegel 590

    I brought my DAC the HD30, I compared it to the built-in DAC of the Levinson 526 and the 590. Really the main differences between the 590 DAC and HD30, the HD30 is old school Hegel with a bit more condensed sound stage and highs were more back in the mix, the 590 DAC even had better bass control.

    I know the 590 isn't a budget unit but it is a bargain at the price, considering the DAC, IMO, edges out my HD30 which retailed at nearly half the 590 cost, and, the amp section is a monster. I was impressed
    From what I'm reading from everyone who's had the chance to compare, the amp section sounds comparable to Hegel's already-great amps (H30 etc.) but it's really the DAC that's improved notably... and from what you say... better than the HD30.

    Since the HD30 is their stand-along statement-DAC... it seems odd that it would remain out there as-is while the built-in DAC of their new 590 integrated ups the game. I wonder if Hegel has plans to release a new stand-alone DAC using the new architecture (eliminating pre-ringing and gaining MQA capability etc).

    I've got an H30 amp and HD30 DAC... and if Hegel has plans to bring their new DAC architecture to a stand-alone product... it might make sense to keep the H30 amp and later pair it with the better DAC... otherwise... I'm tempted to swap out that combo for a 590 integrated

    What do you think?

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    Re: Hegel 590

    Welcome to the forum Dave, thank you for joining.


    Quote Originally Posted by DaViD Boulet View Post
    From what I'm reading from everyone who's had the chance to compare, the amp section sounds comparable to Hegel's already-great amps (H30 etc.) but it's really the DAC that's improved notably... and from what you say... better than the HD30.

    Since the HD30 is their stand-along statement-DAC... it seems odd that it would remain out there as-is while the built-in DAC of their new 590 integrated ups the game. I wonder if Hegel has plans to release a new stand-alone DAC using the new architecture (eliminating pre-ringing and gaining MQA capability etc).

    I've got an H30 amp and HD30 DAC... and if Hegel has plans to bring their new DAC architecture to a stand-alone product... it might make sense to keep the H30 amp and later pair it with the better DAC... otherwise... I'm tempted to swap out that combo for a 590 integrated

    What do you think?

    Thanks!

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    Hi Dave - welcome. We have the 590 and it’s terrific. The DAC in it is no joke. It’s the real deal. It’s like getting a $10k sounding DAC and only paying $1k more for the amp/preamp!!

    I think we have the best selection of integrated amps in the country and the Hegel 590 is right up there with the best of the best.




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    I heard the H590 Wednesday on Vivid Audio Kaya 45s.
    It was so good that I might buy it in the near future.
    It bettered a 30K stack of separates by a large margin.
    Hegel H590 + a pair of good speakers and you have a terrific system for 25-30K!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Hi Dave - welcome. We have the 590 and it’s terrific. The DAC in it is no joke. It’s the real deal. It’s like getting a $10k sounding DAC and only paying $1k more for the amp/preamp!!

    I think we have the best selection of integrated amps in the country and the Hegel 590 is right up there with the best of the best.




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    Re: Hegel 590

    I've not heard the H30, just compared DAC'S. The 590 could be a good move. I have a friend who drives KEF ref 5's with the 590 so I believe the 590 should have plenty of power.
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    Re: Hegel 590

    Nice line-up there Mike! I'm looking for a new integrated to drive my KEF Ref 5s and the 590 comes highly recommended, it seems the Hegel is a good match with KEF. I'm also considering the Gryphon Diablo 300, but not able to demo it with the speakers. How do you think it compares to the 590?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Hi Dave - welcome. We have the 590 and it’s terrific. The DAC in it is no joke. It’s the real deal. It’s like getting a $10k sounding DAC and only paying $1k more for the amp/preamp!!

    I think we have the best selection of integrated amps in the country and the Hegel 590 is right up there with the best of the best.




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