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    Re: The MSB Premier review I didn't write

    Quote Originally Posted by kzhtoo View Post
    I do think the result is well worth the effort. IMO, this is the next step in digital reproduction to get out of the box swapping merry-go-‘round and also the future of digital audio, esp. with network streaming.
    The only streaming that I do is YouTube over my $ 30 headphones. For hifi listening I buy CDs, and I have too many anyways. I listen to pieces over and over again in order to internalize them in detail (classical, jazz, avant-garde, Zappa...). If I wanted to have an ever changing diet I'd certainly want to go into streaming. It all depends on listening habits. I have mine, others have theirs.
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    Re: The MSB Premier review I didn't write

    Quote Originally Posted by Al M. View Post
    The only streaming that I do is YouTube over my $ 30 headphones. For hifi listening I buy CDs, and I have too many anyways. I listen to pieces over and over again in order to internalize them in detail (classical, jazz, avant-garde, Zappa...). If I wanted to have an ever changing diet I'd certainly want to go into streaming. It all depends on listening habits. I have mine, others have theirs.
    Understand. Everyone needs to make their own choices.

    I may have slightly different definition than others when I say network streaming, which, for me, includes storing music on a NAS and streaming via Ethernet to Renderer module like MSB one.

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    Re: The MSB Premier review I didn't write

    Quote Originally Posted by Kingsrule View Post
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    Because it is a figment of your imagination. That dead horse you keep beating. Yada Yada Yada.
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    Off course it could be those shitty Magico speakers you own.
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    Well there it is

    Any bit of micro credibility you had is gone.......
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    Re: The MSB Premier review I didn't write

    Quote Originally Posted by Alpinist View Post
    I think you will be extremely happy with what adding the GigaFoilv4 does for the sound quality of your system. For me, it was the equivalent of when I added a power conditioner to my system. Since virtually all the noise is contained at the GigaFoilv4, the quality of its power supply and the Ethernet cable following it are of the utmost importance.

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    Thanks Ken. I’m looking forward to it. Already thinking about LPS. Can you confirm Gigafoil v4 DC input is 5V?

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    Re: The MSB Premier review I didn't write

    Quote Originally Posted by kzhtoo View Post
    Thanks Ken. I’m looking forward to it. Already thinking about LPS. Can you confirm Gigafoil v4 DC input is 5V?
    It says on the GigaFoilv4 Ethernet Filter for Power: 5 Volts DC Maximum / 1 Amp Minimum.

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    Re: The MSB Premier review I didn't write

    I was just looking at the MSB DACs a bit more. They have only balanced outputs?
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    Re: The MSB Premier review I didn't write

    look at MSB site and under DACs it has a pricing tab. You choose rca or xlr
    System #1................................................ System #2

    ROON Nucleus + server ...............................SME 20/3A
    MSB Premier DAC / V2 Renderer ...................SME V arm
    VAC Signature MkII SE Preamp .....................Dynavector TE Kaitora Rua
    Aesthetix Altas Signature Stereo Amp.......... Sutherland current gain phono stage prototype now called Phono loco
    Wilson Audio Sasha II................................ Aesthetix Romulus Signature
    REL G1 Mk II (pair) Subs............................ Bryston BDP2
    Transparent Audio Gen 5 Reference........... T+A PA3000HV Integrated
    .................................................. ...............Vienna Acoustic Liszt
    .................................................. ...............Audience Front Row

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    Re: The MSB Premier review I didn't write

    Quote Originally Posted by Billt1 View Post
    look at MSB site and under DACs it has a pricing tab. You choose rca or xlr
    Great, thanks. I would be screwed if it were only XLR because I have a Pass B1 buffered preamp (no gain) that has only single ended inputs.
    Simaudio Moon Neo 260 DT CD Transport / MIT SL-Matrix Plus AES/EBU digital cable / Schiit Yggdrasil DAC / Tripp Lite 1000HG isolation transformer (only digital front end) / Pass B1 passive buffered preamp (revised 2014 version) / Octave RE 320 stereo amp with Super Black Box / Reference 3A Reflector monitors on Sound Anchors Signature Stands / dual JL Audio Fathom 112 v2 subwoofers on ASC SubTraps / ZenWave Audio D4 and SMSG cables / Acoustic treatment: tube traps, Tri-panels, window plugs, ceiling diffusers (all ASC), large absorbing panels (Acoustics First), diverse carpets chosen and tested for acoustic properties: wool, polypropylene basket-weave

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    Re: The MSB Premier review I didn't write

    Quote Originally Posted by Al M. View Post
    Great, thanks. I would be screwed if it were only XLR because I have a Pass B1 buffered preamp (no gain) that has only single ended inputs.
    All MSB DACs have volume control/ preamp built in. Preamp in Reference and Select II is known to be reference level good (also have analog inputs if you need more than one inputs).

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    Re: The MSB Premier review I didn't write

    Quote Originally Posted by kzhtoo View Post
    All MSB DACs have volume control/ preamp built in. Preamp in Reference and Select II is known to be reference level good (also have analog inputs if you need more than one inputs).
    Thanks. I am bit wary of digital volume controls, which are probably found in Discrete and Premier. But when I audition I may try both ways.
    Simaudio Moon Neo 260 DT CD Transport / MIT SL-Matrix Plus AES/EBU digital cable / Schiit Yggdrasil DAC / Tripp Lite 1000HG isolation transformer (only digital front end) / Pass B1 passive buffered preamp (revised 2014 version) / Octave RE 320 stereo amp with Super Black Box / Reference 3A Reflector monitors on Sound Anchors Signature Stands / dual JL Audio Fathom 112 v2 subwoofers on ASC SubTraps / ZenWave Audio D4 and SMSG cables / Acoustic treatment: tube traps, Tri-panels, window plugs, ceiling diffusers (all ASC), large absorbing panels (Acoustics First), diverse carpets chosen and tested for acoustic properties: wool, polypropylene basket-weave

 

 
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