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    Re: Are subwoofers bad for music?

    Yes the JL is probably faster than the SB16 Ultra, but that SB 16 Ultra is a great sub, their flagship product at $2,000. The problem with that e112 series from what I have seen is just the general reliability of the electronics. Looking at the reviews on Crutchfield it seems like there are several people who had issues with amp reliability, etc on that model JL. The Rhythmiks sound like a great value, I just wish they had a dealer network as I'm a little hesitant to try a new brand without seeing it/hearing it first.
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    Re: Are subwoofers bad for music?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Peabody View Post
    Whatever sub you get will need to be very quick to keep up with the Volti. I would think JL was up to the task but sounds like that model may not be their best example. If the sub lags it will make integration that more difficult, if at all.
    As Jeremey said, he knows that the higher end JL Audios are phenomenal, and it's true. My JL Audio F112v2 subs are blisteringly fast, and they have DSP as well (by microphone calibration).
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    Re: Are subwoofers bad for music?

    Crossover point and phase setting at the crossover point (often confirmed by checking for constructive or destructive interference) is only part of the story. The other setting that needs to be set is delay: either the speaker signal needs to be delayed or the subwoofer signal needs to be delayed, unless you can exactly place the subwoofer at the correct physical location which is going to create its own problems.

    miniDSP has some instructions for measuring time delay between speakers. The instructions are a bit outdated as the Room EQ Wizard UI has been updated a few times since, but the general approach still works.

    Also, setting the volume on the SB16-Ultra to -25 sounds about right.
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