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    MSB Discrete DAC arrives




    I have Stock PSU, Roon Renderer and USB.


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    Re: MSB Discrete DAC arrives

    Nice
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    Re: MSB Discrete DAC arrives

    How much?


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    Re: MSB Discrete DAC arrives

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Smith View Post
    How much?


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    Re: MSB Discrete DAC arrives

    speak of the devil!

    will be great to hear how this little dude performs
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    Re: MSB Discrete DAC arrives

    So how's the sound different compared to the Premier?
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    Re: MSB Discrete DAC arrives

    I'd be interested in some Discrete impressions also.

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    Re: MSB Discrete DAC arrives

    Still too early. Want to give it more time to break in.
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    Re: MSB Discrete DAC arrives

    Mike, these come to you as a dealer demo allocation? Or customer order that you can demo on the store floor for a while until customer takes delivery?

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    Re: MSB Discrete DAC arrives

    Quote Originally Posted by brodricj View Post
    Mike, these come to you as a dealer demo allocation? Or customer order that you can demo on the store floor for a while until customer takes delivery?
    These are mine. Demos. I have to buy them all.


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    Re: MSB Discrete DAC arrives

    Well yeah, I know dealers need to buy their demo stock. It seems you have just about one of everything, which is not something found very often. Certainly in my market.

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    Re: MSB Discrete DAC arrives

    Quote Originally Posted by brodricj View Post
    Well yeah, I know dealers need to buy their demo stock. It seems you have just about one of everything, which is not something found very often. Certainly in my market.
    I work hard to bring in the best. My customers deserve the best.


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    Re: MSB Discrete DAC arrives

    I'm coming to Fort Lauderdale next month for a few days, so near yet so far...

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    Re: MSB Discrete DAC arrives

    Boy has his DAC improved in the past 5 days. It’s been running 24/7. I recycled the power this morning and sat down for a listen.

    It has the same great analog sounds of all current MSB’s. The Premier has greater soundstage and bass weight. But this is a bare bones Discrete and it sounds superb.

    The better clock in the Premier really provides another level of smoothness and the PowerBase provides the Bass weight and midbass meatiness like analog.


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    Re: MSB Discrete DAC arrives

    Thanks for the comments, Mike.

    I almost wonder if one can't scale up to the crazy analog-good Reference/Select level, if just getting a Discrete with dual PSs is the value play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KeithR View Post
    Thanks for the comments, Mike.

    I almost wonder if one can't scale up to the crazy analog-good Reference/Select level, if just getting a Discrete with dual PSs is the value play.
    I really don’t think so. The S2 and REF are just extraordinary.


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    Re: MSB Discrete DAC arrives

    I know it is hard to put a % figure on it, but what is your best guess as to the % improvement from Discrete —> Premier —> Reference —> Select. For example, is it 20% per level (assuming base package)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AJR View Post
    I know it is hard to put a % figure on it, but what is your best guess as to the % improvement from Discrete —> Premier —> Reference —> Select. For example, is it 20% per level (assuming base package)?
    Select II - 100%
    Ref - 80%
    Premier - 60%
    Discrete - 40%

    Again, VERY hard to quantify.



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    Re: MSB Discrete DAC arrives

    Much appreciated. And makes sense - Jonathan & Co have really nailed this new line. Seems to me that the Reference is the sweet spot. Love that MSB do FULL trade in value when upgrading.

    So... for me, a speaker upgrade first or a MSB upgrade first... Jumping the gun somewhat as my MSB renderer doesn’t work, but thinking ahead.
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    Re: MSB Discrete DAC arrives

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    I really don’t think so. The S2 and REF are just extraordinary.
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    I hear you - I meant if one can't afford the Ref/Select2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KeithR View Post
    I hear you - I meant if one can't afford the Ref/Select2.
    If so, I would do a Premier and either max it out at initial purchase time or over time. Costs a little more over time.


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    Re: MSB Discrete DAC arrives

    Mike - how much better is the Premier (with power base) with the upgraded femto 93 clock? I bought mine with the base clock so the femto 93 is the next upgrade step for me. 10%? (Subject to the usual caveats)?
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    Re: MSB Discrete DAC arrives

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    If so, I would do a Premier and either max it out at initial purchase time or over time. Costs a little more over time.
    Thanks for your feedback!
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    Re: MSB Discrete DAC arrives

    Wonder how a base Discrete would compare with a previous generation Platinum DAC IV Plus w/Signature Power Base?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AJR View Post
    Much appreciated. And makes sense - Jonathan & Co have really nailed this new line. Seems to me that the Reference is the sweet spot. Love that MSB do FULL trade in value when upgrading.

    So... for me, a speaker upgrade first or a MSB upgrade first... Jumping the gun somewhat as my MSB renderer doesn’t work, but thinking ahead.
    What exactly does FULL trade in value mean ? Trade in value is the original price you paid ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mintakax View Post
    What exactly does FULL trade in value mean ? Trade in value is the original price you paid ?
    He means if you’re upgrading accessories, from say a standard power supply to a power base for example. And he’s still not 100% correct. All MSB pricing is on their website.


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    Re: MSB Discrete DAC arrives

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    He means if you’re upgrading accessories, from say a standard power supply to a power base for example. And he’s still not 100% correct. All MSB pricing is on their website.

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    OK thanks Mike.
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    Re: MSB Discrete DAC arrives

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    He means if you’re upgrading accessories, from say a standard power supply to a power base for example. And he’s still not 100% correct. All MSB pricing is on their website.


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    Came back home to this last night.


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    Re: MSB Discrete DAC arrives

    Well, they aren't all that useful inside the box, are they!

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    Quote Originally Posted by brodricj View Post
    Well, they aren't all that useful inside the box, are they!
    LOL
    Just got them unboxed and started playing. Sounds like it needs a bit of breaking in.

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    Re: MSB Discrete DAC arrives

    Well, my MSB Premier clock card arrives today for a test drive
    Brinkmann Bardo w/ EMT HSD-006 cart, MSB Reference DAC --> Linear Tube Audio MicroZOTL --> Ampzilla 2000, 2nd Edition --> Fyne Audio F1-12

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    Re: MSB Discrete DAC arrives

    Almost 6 weeks since the arrival. It’s a keeper. PCM never sounds more transparent and MQA is as smooth as silk. Love the renderer module and direct Ethernet connection.

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    Wait until you hear DSD through it !
    My system:
    Power: PS Audio P15 , dedicated 20amp circuits
    Front End: MSB Discrete DAC with MSB renderer

    Pre: Simaudio Moon 740P
    Amp: McIntosh MC462
    Speakers: B&W 802 D3
    Interconnects: AQ Earth XLR and Stealth Metacarbon
    Speaker Cable: AQ Type 4 (20 ft runs)

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    Re: MSB Discrete DAC arrives

    Hopefully my Silver Discrete arrives with twin power supplies & renderer soon. The MSB vs. Mscaler with Chord dac(heard Dave and Hugott2) were my final options. Mike and I discussed things at length but my decision came down to I only wanted my money going toward DAC related tech. The chord sounded lovely but headphone amp, preamp capability or TT2 high output amp capability being to drive any headphones or horn speakers was not part of my needs. Plus renderer module allows for MQA and an upgrade Roon ability over my Microrendu and its external power supplies. I will shrink the # of boxes on my racks. I know it will be a huge sonic improvement compared to my 4 year old Ayre Dac and that"s what matters to me and my ears. I know this Discrete has trickle down tech from their reference models so it will definitely bump up my system sonically. I try to stay focused on my BMW budget and not get frustrated I can't buy a Bentley or Ferrari at this time(BTW I love my Bimmers). I will be extremely happy now for some time especially with its upgradability and not get crazy about what I can't acquire. Thanks Mike for all your informative LOW pressure assistance.
    Cheers Nick
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    Main system :TAD CR1 speakers, Viola Labs Symphony amp,Pass XP-20 preamp., MSB Discrete DAC with twin power supplies and V2 Renderer module, Gigafoil V4 inline ethernet filter with uptone LPS-1 power supply with Ghent audio Gotham 2.1mm to 2.5mm cable and AG diamond ethernet cable, Sonicorbitor Roon Audiophile 6 TB network server-player , MG Audio Design Planus III jumpers & speaker cables, Zitron Cobra power cords, Shunyata Hydra AV, and acoustic zen absolute copper IC,. Room treatment ASC tower traps, Vicoustic absorber premium cinema wall and ceiling panels, and MSR acoustic trifusser side wall panel

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    Quote Originally Posted by veindoc View Post
    Hopefully my Silver Discrete arrives with twin power supplies & renderer soon. The MSB vs. Mscaler with Chord dac(heard Dave and Hugott2) were my final options. Mike and I discussed things at length but my decision came down to I only wanted my money going toward DAC related tech. The chord sounded lovely but headphone amp, preamp capability or TT2 high output amp capability being to drive any headphones or horn speakers was not part of my needs. I know it will be a huge sonic improvement compared to my 4 year old Ayre Dac and that"s what matters to me and my ears. I know this Discrete has trickle down tech from their reference models so it will definitely bump up my system sonically. I try to stay focused on my BMW budget and not get frustrated I can't buy a Bentley or Ferrari at this time(BTW I love my Bimmers). I will be extremely happy now for some time especially with its upgradability and not get crazy about what I can't acquire. Thanks Mike for all your informative LOW pressure assistance.
    Cheers Nick
    After having owned an MSB Discrete with twin PS for several months, I can say that it is more like a Mercedes than a BMW.
    My system:
    Power: PS Audio P15 , dedicated 20amp circuits
    Front End: MSB Discrete DAC with MSB renderer

    Pre: Simaudio Moon 740P
    Amp: McIntosh MC462
    Speakers: B&W 802 D3
    Interconnects: AQ Earth XLR and Stealth Metacarbon
    Speaker Cable: AQ Type 4 (20 ft runs)

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    Re: MSB Discrete DAC arrives

    Quote Originally Posted by mintakax View Post
    After having owned an MSB Discrete with twin PS for several months, I can say that it is more like a Mercedes than a BMW.
    Did you happen to try one PS vs. twin PS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kzhtoo View Post
    Did you happen to try one PS vs. twin PS?
    I had only one for a couple of weeks, but when I put the second one on I was having some minor hearing issues so really didn't get a chance to do a good comparison.
    My system:
    Power: PS Audio P15 , dedicated 20amp circuits
    Front End: MSB Discrete DAC with MSB renderer

    Pre: Simaudio Moon 740P
    Amp: McIntosh MC462
    Speakers: B&W 802 D3
    Interconnects: AQ Earth XLR and Stealth Metacarbon
    Speaker Cable: AQ Type 4 (20 ft runs)

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    Re: MSB Discrete DAC arrives

    Quote Originally Posted by mintakax View Post
    After having owned an MSB Discrete with twin PS for several months, I can say that it is more like a Mercedes than a BMW.
    Oh! how I feel that after several months he has lowered his expectations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nonesup View Post
    Oh! how I feel that after several months he has lowered his expectations.
    My system:
    Power: PS Audio P15 , dedicated 20amp circuits
    Front End: MSB Discrete DAC with MSB renderer

    Pre: Simaudio Moon 740P
    Amp: McIntosh MC462
    Speakers: B&W 802 D3
    Interconnects: AQ Earth XLR and Stealth Metacarbon
    Speaker Cable: AQ Type 4 (20 ft runs)

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    Re: MSB Discrete DAC arrives

    How does the discrete dac without power base compare to other high end dacs in the $10k range like DAVE ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by smodtactical View Post
    How does the discrete dac without power base compare to other high end dacs in the $10k range like DAVE ?
    I’ve actually never tried it with a power base, only one or two power supplies (comes with one standard and you can add the second for $1450). But it hits above its price point.


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