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    Magnepan 30.7 Demo

    Attending a demo of the Maggie 30.7’s today. Having owned 5 pairs of Maggie’s, I’m VERY familiar with Magnepan.


















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    Re: Magnepan 30.7 Demo

    OMG!


    Ray, look!!!!
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    Re: Magnepan 30.7 Demo

    Haven’t had the chance to hear Maggie’s yet. How did the demo go, Mike?


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    Re: Magnepan 30.7 Demo

    Quote Originally Posted by Sean View Post
    Haven’t had the chance to hear Maggie’s yet. How did the demo go, Mike?


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    Still here. I don’t feel I can comment as I know how hard these events are to put on.

    I’ve been walking around the room asking people their opinions and taking notes. I’ll share those if people really want.

    There are many forum members here. Maybe they will comment as well.


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    Magnepan 30.7 Demo

    Thanks!!
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    PS. Huge room. I bet the 30.7s like that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by joeinid View Post
    OMG!


    Ray, look!!!!


    I'm getting the sense that the demos thus far have less than impressive. I'm invited to see them in NJ sometime in the coming months. (not sure exactly when yet) I'll definitely have a listen. BUT, I don't really think I'd be able to make them work in my room.
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    Re: Magnepan 30.7 Demo

    I like it, everything I see in the pictures, I can hear sweet music coming through, with two thumbs up.
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    Re: Magnepan 30.7 Demo

    I was able to attend the demo. It was good to finally see and listen to the Magnepan 30.7s. As a former Magnepan happy owner, I had been looking forward to this event.

    The 30.7s are as large as I expected. They do require a lot of real estate to be setup properly. The blue and white color combination is not my cup of tea but Magnepan offers quite a few finishes so, ultimately, I’m sure just about every taste level can be satisfied.

    In terms of fit and finish, the front of the speakers looks well built and finished. However, to me, the rear of the speakers does not have the quality finish of what I would consider to be a finished product; specially for $30K. Each speaker has rows of screws and stables that are very visible around the ribbon tweeters holding the speaker fabric.

    In in terms of sound, they can play loud! The 30.7s present a very large soundstage. However, the room was not very friendly to the system setup. Bass and mid bass where lacking. I would want to hear these speakers again in the right setting before forming a final opinion.

    Lastly, the Magnepan road show continues across the country. This program shows a commitment by the company to their dealer network and requires significant resources and time to execute. I wonder if resources would be better used by setting up the appropriate sized rooms with the right ancillaries at Axpona, Audiofest and Florida Expo. Just three venues that would have thousands of audiophiles see and experience the 30.7s correctly.

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    Re: Magnepan 30.7 Demo

    It looks very nice outside thru the window; the trees (pine), the water, the fountain, the blue sky.

    One screw is missing on the back of one bass panels. No big deal, it's somewhere. The color I don't mind...blue trims, the room is big, good, it's an hotel room or a convention room so it's normal, and it has to be big, behind, aside and in front. I bet you hear less of the boxes with these and more the air around. I bet with the lights off and in a professionally tuned room they are among the best sounding for the money.

    Of course with the right amplification and the right turntable/tonearm/cartridge setup. I bet you can put a chamber music quartet between and you would get a unique ressemblance of the live music reproduced, a verisimilitude.
    Even a Steinway piano would fit in between.

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    Magnepan 30.7 Demo

    Quote Originally Posted by Ritmo View Post

    ....

    Lastly, the Magnepan road show continues across the country. This program shows a commitment by the company to their dealer network and requires significant resources and time to execute. I wonder if resources would be better used by setting up the appropriate sized rooms with the right ancillaries at Axpona, Audiofest and Florida Expo. Just three venues that would have thousands of audiophiles see and experience the 30.7s correctly.

    My 2 cents.
    Judging by the accounts of listeners at different dealer facilities, I totally agree that getting these speakers in a properly set up room at the big audio shows would be much better (and cost effective for MG). From the pictures, I can see about 20 folks. At any audio show, you can expect several hundreds folks. The right set up will eliminate all the talk about dealer rooms not properly set up which per your account seems to have been an issue this time (bass).

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    Re: Magnepan 30.7 Demo

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    Wow , thats really a bad setup ....

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    Re: Magnepan 30.7 Demo

    I heard the 20.7 and 30.7. The 20.7 with Audio Research was AMAZING. The 30.7 with D Agostino was not my favorite, the 20.7 with tubes driving had that growl. They just ripped it up and put on a show. The 30.7 was solid state were crystal clear and very linear in their presentation. For some reason that did not excite me. To this day I am not sure if it was more a speaker or amplifier pairing that influence my perception. I am very much a tube guy so take it for what that is worth. When I heard the 30.7 wirh solid state behind it, there were many people walking out of the room very pleased with what they heard.
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    Re: Magnepan 30.7 Demo

    I was at the demo today. My opinion is strictly face value. I will make no mention of the room or the electronics. Assuming the manufacturer and the reputable dealer knew what they were doing. The Maggie 30.7 was void of beauty. No selections solicited any emotion (from me). I have heard more credible bass and better imaging from a decent two-way bookshelf speaker. I’m sorry but I cannot excuse the flaws of the 30.7’s at a price tag of $30K. Nuff said.
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    Re: Magnepan 30.7 Demo

    Quote Originally Posted by Ritmo View Post
    I was able to attend the demo. It was good to finally see and listen to the Magnepan 30.7s. As a former Magnepan happy owner, I had been looking forward to this event.

    The 30.7s are as large as I expected. They do require a lot of real estate to be setup properly. The blue and white color combination is not my cup of tea but Magnepan offers quite a few finishes so, ultimately, I’m sure just about every taste level can be satisfied.

    In terms of fit and finish, the front of the speakers looks well built and finished. However, to me, the rear of the speakers does not have the quality finish of what I would consider to be a finished product; specially for $30K. Each speaker has rows of screws and stables that are very visible around the ribbon tweeters holding the speaker fabric.

    In in terms of sound, they can play loud! The 30.7s present a very large soundstage. However, the room was not very friendly to the system setup. Bass and mid bass where lacking. I would want to hear these speakers again in the right setting before forming a final opinion.

    Lastly, the Magnepan road show continues across the country. This program shows a commitment by the company to their dealer network and requires significant resources and time to execute. I wonder if resources would be better used by setting up the appropriate sized rooms with the right ancillaries at Axpona, Audiofest and Florida Expo. Just three venues that would have thousands of audiophiles see and experience the 30.7s correctly.

    My 2 cents.
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    Re: Magnepan 30.7 Demo

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post



    The usual suspects.
    Wanted to go bigly, but neither retired nor a 1%er like Mike, so now way I was leaving work at 4p in crush hour traffic and making it from east Tampa to Clearwater, never mind the evening rainstorms..
    Ok, not just my imagination, seems they normally flank the main panels with the bass panels on outside https://www.google.com/search?q=Magn...mgC0UQ_AUICygC
    Not sure why the reverse, but not my setup. Can't help but wonder with the mentioned (mid?)bass issues though.

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    Re: Magnepan 30.7 Demo

    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph R. View Post
    I was at the demo today. My opinion is strictly face value. I will make no mention of the room or the electronics. Assuming the manufacturer and the reputable dealer knew what they were doing. The Maggie 30.7 was void of beauty. No selections solicited any emotion (from me). I have heard more credible bass and better imaging from a decent two-way bookshelf speaker. I’m sorry but I cannot excuse the flaws of the 30.7’s at a price tag of $30K. Nuff said.
    How do you know you were hearing the "flaws of the 30.7s" vice hearing the flaws of the room and the gear? You said you will make no mention of the room or the electronics, but yet you have no problem ascribing all of the issues you heard to the 30.7s. That doesn't make sense to me. And no, I don't own Magnepan speakers.
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    Re: Magnepan 30.7 Demo

    I attended yesterday as well.
    I had not heard a pair of Maggies since the late 70's early 80's and was looking forward to another opportunity.

    The were fed by all Electrocompaniet electronics.

    I will also say that the room and set up was in no way a fair representation of what these speakers can probably do.

    The suggestion was that you can stand up and listen since a line source creates an even distribution of sound. For me the sound stage started at about 5' above the floor and went up when standing.
    The sound stage as presented was huge and for me not proportioned well. A 20' sax may sound that way but I have yet to see one.

    I commented, as AJ just mentioned my supprise at the bass panels being on the inside of the mid/high panels.

    I would very much like to hear them in better setting.

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    Re: Magnepan 30.7 Demo

    Quote Originally Posted by brad225 View Post
    I attended yesterday as well.
    I had not heard a pair of Maggies since the late 70's early 80's and was looking forward to another opportunity.

    The were fed by all Electrocompaniet electronics.

    I will also say that the room and set up was in no way a fair representation of what these speakers can probably do.

    The suggestion was that you can stand up and listen since a line source creates an even distribution of sound. For me the sound stage started at about 5' above the floor and went up when standing.
    The sound stage as presented was huge and for me not proportioned well. A 20' sax may sound that way but I have yet to see one.

    I commented, as AJ just mentioned my supprise at the bass panels being on the inside of the mid/high panels.

    I would very much like to hear them in better setting.

    Thanks to Brian for the work he put in to give us an chance to listen to them.
    We need Jim Smith to take a look at pictures of the room and tell us everything wrong that he sees.
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    Re: Magnepan 30.7 Demo

    Quote Originally Posted by mep View Post
    We need Jim Smith to take a look at pictures of the room and tell us everything wrong that he sees.
    Well for one thing the potted plants need to be on audiophile footers. Can't have them resting directly on the carpet with dielectric effects and all that mumbo jumbo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AJ Soundfield View Post
    Well for one thing the potted plants need to be on audiophile footers. Can't have them resting directly on the carpet with dielectric effects and all that mumbo jumbo.
    Great catch AJ. I liked the hanging lights from the acoustic ceiling and the large glass windows behind the speakers and at the opposite side of the room.
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    Re: Magnepan 30.7 Demo

    Is that a window or panel of TV?
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    Re: Magnepan 30.7 Demo

    Was this in MN? Would’ve totally made it if I knew about it. Can’t say I’ve ever wanted to buy these beasts, but would be fun to hear them.


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    Re: Magnepan 30.7 Demo

    Sounds as if most set ups have been compromised. I wonder if anyone has actually purchased or listened to the 30.7 in their own room and is willing to report their findings.

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    Re: Magnepan 30.7 Demo

    How do you know you were hearing the "flaws of the 30.7s" vice hearing the flaws of the room and the gear? You said you will make no mention of the room or the electronics, but yet you have no problem ascribing all of the issues you heard to the 30.7s. That doesn't make sense to me. And no, I don't own Magnepan speakers.
    It is your right to criticize my opinion. Go for it. But I calls them as I see um. I was asked for my opinion and I gave it. No one asked me my opinion with excuses. If it looks and sounds like a duck, it’s a duck. I traveled over 100 miles one way to hear these puppies. I am sorry if I expected the manufacturer to produce a demo that sounded good.
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    Re: Magnepan 30.7 Demo

    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph R. View Post
    It is your right to criticize my opinion. Go for it. But I calls them as I see um. I was asked for my opinion and I gave it. No one asked me my opinion with excuses. If it looks and sounds like a duck, it’s a duck. I traveled over 100 miles one way to hear these puppies. I am sorry if I expected the manufacturer to produce a demo that sounded good.
    My only criticism is that you refuse to factor in the room and electronics and lay all of the blame on the doorstep of the 30.7s. I believe you didn't like what you heard, I'm just not convinced that the 30.7 owns all of the blame.
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    Re: Magnepan 30.7 Demo

    Now I must say I don’t understand ! You are going out of your way to criticize my review on a pair of speakers you didn’t even hear. At least my review was from experience. How do you know what I heard was not the sole responsibility of the transducers themselves ?
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    Re: Magnepan 30.7 Demo

    Quote Originally Posted by mep View Post
    We need Jim Smith to take a look at pictures of the room and tell us everything wrong that he sees.
    LOL!!!

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    He & I go w-a-a-a-a-y back to the 70's...our ARC days & later, at Magnepan.

    Can't imagine traveling around the country & having three hours or so to set-up at each dealer location. In fact, no way would I even consider it...

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    Re: Magnepan 30.7 Demo

    That is a very large room and those speakers aren't going to sound the same in "most" peoples home. Other than that I would like to hear them at some point.
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    Re: Magnepan 30.7 Demo

    If I remember correctly the manufactures rep said he had done either 125 or 200 demos around the country.

    How does the manufacture send someone out to demo their flagship product with no acoustic treatments for the room. Granted this was not an idea room but a few plants isn't the solution.

    It seems a great disservice to the dealer that is sponsering the event.

    I don't think Joe's description is an unreasonable conclusion to arrive at either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph R. View Post
    Now I must say I don’t understand ! You are going out of your way to criticize my review on a pair of speakers you didn’t even hear. At least my review was from experience. How do you know what I heard was not the sole responsibility of the transducers themselves ?
    You went out of your way to say you were not going to discuss the room or the electronics. I don't know what you don't understand. You go to a a venue to hear a pair of speakers in a room I assume you have never been in before with equipment you are not familiar with and you don't like what you heard, but the speakers deserve all of the blame. Last I knew, listening rooms have a tremendous impact on the quality of the sound we hear. If you are in a room you have never been in before listening to a pair of speakers you have never heard before through electronics you aren't familiar with, how do you assign 100% of the blame to the speakers?? Seriously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brad225 View Post
    If I remember correctly the manufactures rep said he had done either 125 or 200 demos around the country.

    How does the manufacture send someone out to demo their flagship product with no acoustic treatments for the room. Granted this was not an idea room but a few plants isn't the solution.

    It seems a great disservice to the dealer that is sponsering the event.

    I don't think Joe's description is an unreasonable conclusion to arrive at either.
    So you admit the room isn't ideal, but yet that's Magnepan's fault for how the dealer has his showroom set up?
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    Re: Magnepan 30.7 Demo

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Smith View Post
    LOL!!!

    Wendell did stop by here for a nice visit & dinner with Pam (my wife) and me last Thursday afternoon/early evening.

    He & I go w-a-a-a-a-y back to the 70's...our ARC days & later, at Magnepan.

    Can't imagine traveling around the country & having three hours or so to set-up at each dealer location. In fact, no way would I even consider it...

    Wendell's commitment is amazing.

    I don't think anyone is trying to bad mouth Wendell. He can only work with what he is given. It just seems that Magnepan is doing themselves a disservice with this type of demo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mep View Post
    So you admit the room isn't ideal, but yet that's Magnepan's fault for how the dealer has his showroom set up?

    It was a demo in a community center room not a showroom.
    Speaking only for myself no demo would have been better. There was nothing I could come away with that was positive other than they would play music.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brad225 View Post
    I don't think anyone is trying to bad mouth Wendell.
    ??? When did I mention trying to bad mouth???

    Quote Originally Posted by brad225 View Post
    It just seems that Magnepan is doing themselves a disservice with this type of demo.
    Umm, Wendell arrived at a facility that the dealer had chosen and theoretically vetted for a good demo...

    What should he have done after driving all the way down from Atlanta with the speakers in the back of the van and unloading them at the demo location?

    At best, he had several hours to set-up.

    IMO, it was a tough call (at least that I wouldn't want to make under the circumstances).

    Quote Originally Posted by brad225 View Post
    Speaking only for myself no demo would have been better.
    How would all those that attended have reacted if he decided not to do the demo?
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    Re: Magnepan 30.7 Demo

    Thanks for the support Brad. I admit Mep you are a better audiophile than me. Will await your review of the 30.7’s. Please don’t assume I was unfamiliar with the electronics. I have heard them many times, and know what they can do. But I must admit, I am unfamiliar with almost every sound room in which I am invited. Let’s remember however that this was a Magnepan event to showcase their 30.7 flagship. If everthing else is to blame, what is the point of a demo in the first place. I was there to hear the 30.7’s at their best. Not at their worst. But I do thank Magnepan and their dealership for the opportunity. Let’s just say, they are not for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Smith View Post
    ??? When did I mention trying to bad mouth???

    You didn't Jim, he is obviously a close friend and I just wanted you to know that was not the intent in any way.



    Umm, Wendell arrived at a facility that the dealer had chosen and theoretically vetted for a good demo...

    What should he have done after driving all the way down from Atlanta with the speakers in the back of the van and unloading them at the demo location?

    At best, he had several hours to set-up.

    IMO, it was a tough call (at least that I wouldn't want to make under the circumstances).

    Agreed



    How would all those that attended have reacted if he decided not to do the demo?
    I said speaking for myself. What I meant was I would not have driven for over an hour to hear it. Not that no one else should have had the chance.
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    Re: Magnepan 30.7 Demo

    I'm with Mep on this one. Amps and speakers have a relationship. The amp can have a profound Influence on what you hear from a speaker.

    Now if Joe owned the amp used in the demo I could see his point of the speaker being the weak link. At least in the sense that it would probably sound compromised at his home.

    Then the there is the room, treatments and all the other bla bla bla. It does sound to be a tough presentation with so little time to prepare. I would think they would bring some amount of room treatments with them such as round corner traps, some flat absorption panels etc.. When I saw them they were in a very good room. Built specifically for audio and sized about right. They were not bad by any stretch. They were very detailed, linear and clear. I was not sitting in the Optimum seat to know the Imaging. They were refined enough I could tell the difference between a very nice photo and a very nice digital setup. I was actually surprised the photo was more clean with less grain. That is a testament to the speakers and electronics used. They were excellent at revealing the source. I would love to hear the 30.7 with the Audio Research amplifiers. The 20.7 were so stunning I would be amazed if the 30.7 wouldn't be something similar. The 20.7 had such an impact on me I sold the speaker's I was using at the time and bought the pureaudioproject open baffle speakers.. I would have bought a magnepan but I just can't have large flat panels sitting in the middle of my living room. I went for the next best thing, dipole. I just did not want to hear ported box speakers anymore.
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    Re: Magnepan 30.7 Demo

    Putting my opinion aside, I would love to hear from people who actually heard the 30.7’s. In a demo, at a dealer or in a domestic environment. But that’s just me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph R. View Post
    Putting my opinion aside, I would love to hear from people who actually heard the 30.7’s. In a demo, at a dealer or in a domestic environment. But that’s just me.
    There’s a thread about this on WBF.
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    Re: Magnepan 30.7 Demo

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Smith View Post
    ??? When did I mention trying to bad mouth???



    Umm, Wendell arrived at a facility that the dealer had chosen and theoretically vetted for a good demo...

    What should he have done after driving all the way down from Atlanta with the speakers in the back of the van and unloading them at the demo location?

    At best, he had several hours to set-up.

    IMO, it was a tough call (at least that I wouldn't want to make under the circumstances).



    How would all those that attended have reacted if he decided not to do the demo?
    Well for starters not have them so wide apart , further into the room would help a lot and bass panels to the outside so the image wouldn't collapse ...

    Not an ideal room , but i don't see how it's any different to the typical roving audio show demo , where everything is unknown, this is not Wendell's first rodeo by far . Paul took the same nonchalant steps at Munich some years ago and presented a similar disaster with maggies ...

    Obviously bad demo and setup that would require another listen .....




    Just saying ....

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    Re: Magnepan 30.7 Demo

    Quote Originally Posted by AJ Soundfield View Post
    Well for one thing the potted plants need to be on audiophile footers. Can't have them resting directly on the carpet with dielectric effects and all that mumbo jumbo.
    Is that true AJ? I didn't know that; I love this hobby, I keep learning something new almost every day.

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    Just a simple very quick observation, not a criticism.

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    Re: Magnepan 30.7 Demo

    Quote Originally Posted by Kingrex View Post
    Is that a window or panel of TV?
    Sure does look like a window to me; you can even see two people walking outside in the garden.
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    Re: Magnepan 30.7 Demo

    Quote Originally Posted by NorthStar View Post
    Is that true AJ?
    You read it on the internet, so it is.
    If you listen to Radioheads Fake Plastic Trees EP played backwards on your turntable, you'll hear "audiophile footers" clear as day.

    Ok, I think this is also a case of a time limited, hasty, non-optimal setup, so I'll reserve judgement on these 30.7s.

    cheers,
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    Quote Originally Posted by AJ Soundfield View Post
    You read it on the internet, so it is.
    If you listen to Radioheads Fake Plastic Trees EP played backwards on your turntable, you'll hear "audiophile footers" clear as day.

    Ok, I think this is also a case of a time limited, hasty, non-optimal setup, so I'll reserve judgement on these 30.7s.

    cheers,
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    I couldn't agree more, this is "The new world order". The copy and paste mentality of the NET. The new truth.

    In any case much to do about nothing. I am sure these speakers sound great. One of the most if not THE most successful speaker brand in history, I am sure, wouldn't have been released unless they sounded great. Agree, likely bad setup, etc.

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    Re: Magnepan 30.7 Demo

    Another recent take on the 30.7s:

    https://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=159073.0

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    Hard to take anything off Audiocircle Jerk seriously ...

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    Re: Magnepan 30.7 Demo

    Quote Originally Posted by jap View Post
    Another recent take on the 30.7s:

    https://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=159073.0
    Totally different setup with bass panels outside, main panels in, room bit more rectangular, etc. Totally different reactions it seems. Hmm.
    My guess would be better wall outlets and fuses as the main culprit.
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    Re: Magnepan 30.7 Demo

    Quote Originally Posted by AJ Soundfield View Post
    Totally different setup with bass panels outside, main panels in, room bit more rectangular, etc. Totally different reactions it seems. Hmm.
    My guess would be better wall outlets and fuses as the main culprit.

    Yes. Aren't cryogenic treated mains outlets just the bee's knees?

    I'm sure in this case though the massive VTL tube power amplifiers will be having an positive influence on the sonic results.
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    Oh, look, a chair!

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