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September 5, 2018, 03:33 PM #51
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What's the length of the umbilical cable?
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September 5, 2018, 03:42 PM #52
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12" or less. I'd have to measure.
Brinkmann Bardo w/ EMT HSD-006 cart, MSB Reference DAC --> Linear Tube Audio MicroZOTL --> Ampzilla 2000, 2nd Edition --> Fyne Audio F1-12
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September 7, 2018, 04:55 AM #53
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Am at 72+ consecutive burn in hours now and the big change I have noticed is more coherency across the board. The bass isn’t there yet though.
Mike - it is running quite warm, verging on hot. Well, hot is relative - it is nowhere close to the Antileon Evo! Let’s call it very warm. Can easily leave hand on it for a long time. Is this ok?Digital: Innuos Zenith Mk3 Server + MSB Premier DAC with Powerbase
Amp: Gryphon Pandora + Gryphon Antileon Evo Stereo
Speakers: Magico S3 MkII
Cables: MIT SL-Matrix 36 XLR interconnect cables + 70 speaker cables; AQ Diamond & Vodka ethernet cables
Power: AQ Niagara 5000 + AQ Tornado power cables
Headphones (travel): Sennheiser Momentum + Chord Mojo
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September 7, 2018, 08:35 AM #54
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Wrong thread, but do any Roon users know how to get rid of the annoying “Radio Off” window?
Digital: Innuos Zenith Mk3 Server + MSB Premier DAC with Powerbase
Amp: Gryphon Pandora + Gryphon Antileon Evo Stereo
Speakers: Magico S3 MkII
Cables: MIT SL-Matrix 36 XLR interconnect cables + 70 speaker cables; AQ Diamond & Vodka ethernet cables
Power: AQ Niagara 5000 + AQ Tornado power cables
Headphones (travel): Sennheiser Momentum + Chord Mojo
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September 7, 2018, 10:38 AM #55
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September 7, 2018, 10:40 AM #56
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That is my plan B
Digital: Innuos Zenith Mk3 Server + MSB Premier DAC with Powerbase
Amp: Gryphon Pandora + Gryphon Antileon Evo Stereo
Speakers: Magico S3 MkII
Cables: MIT SL-Matrix 36 XLR interconnect cables + 70 speaker cables; AQ Diamond & Vodka ethernet cables
Power: AQ Niagara 5000 + AQ Tornado power cables
Headphones (travel): Sennheiser Momentum + Chord Mojo
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September 7, 2018, 11:01 AM #57
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September 7, 2018, 11:10 AM #58
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Thanks. I went to this thread as I know most people on it use Roon. Don’t want to derail - hoping to get quick answer. I did spend a few minutes on the Roon website, but couldn’t find answer.
Digital: Innuos Zenith Mk3 Server + MSB Premier DAC with Powerbase
Amp: Gryphon Pandora + Gryphon Antileon Evo Stereo
Speakers: Magico S3 MkII
Cables: MIT SL-Matrix 36 XLR interconnect cables + 70 speaker cables; AQ Diamond & Vodka ethernet cables
Power: AQ Niagara 5000 + AQ Tornado power cables
Headphones (travel): Sennheiser Momentum + Chord Mojo
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September 7, 2018, 02:16 PM #59
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It definitely can run warm, but mine is a rack above a tube amp and also isn't on spikes yet as my rack placement is going to change. Yours looks like its in a semi-enclosed space so no surprise. You might want to have your dealer email MSB.
I've got another 200 hours or so on mine and probably 3-400 overall. I will go one more week. Nice thing about digital is run-in is a breeze - try doing it with phono preamps lol. Allowing the Innuous to just run Roon Radio with my amp turned off rocks.Brinkmann Bardo w/ EMT HSD-006 cart, MSB Reference DAC --> Linear Tube Audio MicroZOTL --> Ampzilla 2000, 2nd Edition --> Fyne Audio F1-12
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September 7, 2018, 04:29 PM #60
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September 7, 2018, 05:57 PM #61
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Simaudio Moon Neo 260 DT CD Transport / MIT SL-Matrix Plus AES/EBU digital cable / Schiit Yggdrasil Analog 2 DAC / Octave HP 700 preamp / Octave RE 320 stereo amp with Super Black Box / Reference 3A Reflector monitors on Sound Anchors Signature Stands / dual JL Audio Fathom 112 v2 subwoofers on ASC SubTraps / ZenWave Audio D4 and SMSG cables / Acoustic treatment: tube traps, Tri-panels, window plugs, ceiling diffusers (all ASC), large absorbing panels (Acoustics First), diverse carpets chosen for acoustic properties: wool, polypropylene basket-weave
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September 7, 2018, 06:15 PM #62
Re: MSB Premier arrives as Suncoast Audio
Al,
So many DAC’s have that hashy, processed sounding, thin, overly sibilant, forward, fatiguing sound. They don’t sound organic. They don’t sound like master tape. They sound very computerized, oozing their 1’s and 0’s with pride. They don’t sound natural.
The MSB is the polar opposite. It sounds organic, rich, natural. It has body. It never sounds processed. It sound so close to master tape.
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September 7, 2018, 06:29 PM #63
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Simaudio Moon Neo 260 DT CD Transport / MIT SL-Matrix Plus AES/EBU digital cable / Schiit Yggdrasil Analog 2 DAC / Octave HP 700 preamp / Octave RE 320 stereo amp with Super Black Box / Reference 3A Reflector monitors on Sound Anchors Signature Stands / dual JL Audio Fathom 112 v2 subwoofers on ASC SubTraps / ZenWave Audio D4 and SMSG cables / Acoustic treatment: tube traps, Tri-panels, window plugs, ceiling diffusers (all ASC), large absorbing panels (Acoustics First), diverse carpets chosen for acoustic properties: wool, polypropylene basket-weave
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September 7, 2018, 06:31 PM #64
Re: MSB Premier arrives as Suncoast Audio
My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
"We can hear everything we measure, but we can't measure everything we hear. Let your ears be your guide."
Dealer for: Aqua Hi-Fi, Aurender, AudioQuest Cables & Power Products, Berkeley Audio, Block Audio (distributor), Boulder Amplifiers, Bowers & Wilkins (B&W), Bryston, Clarisys Audio Loudspeakers (distributor), Classe’ Audio, Degritter Record Cleaning Machines, Esoteric, Finite Elemente, FirstWatt, Focal Loudspeakers and Headphones, GigaFoil, Harbeth Loudspeakers, Hegel, HiFi Man, Innuos, ISO Acoustics, Keces Power Supplies, Kharma Loudspeakers and Electronics, Kuzma Turntables, Lumin, Luxman, Magico Loudspeakers, MBL Speakers & Electronics, MSB Technologies, MySonicLabs Phono Cartridges, Nordost Cables, Ortofon, Pass Labs, Quadraspire, Rega Turntables and Electronics, Shunyata Research, STAX, Stein Music Products, Stillpoints, Soulution, VAC, Vicoustics, Viva Audio, VPI Industries, WireWorld Cables.
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September 7, 2018, 06:38 PM #65
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That may well be, Mike, and I'll be curious to hear it some day. At this point though I have ordered ceiling diffusers from ASC that definitely will further improve the sound in a natural direction. Nothing beats the right acoustics if you want to achieve something of a resemblance of a concert hall experience. I have already worked a lot on my acoustics, and this will be yet another, probably important, step. No level of gear can substitute for that.
Simaudio Moon Neo 260 DT CD Transport / MIT SL-Matrix Plus AES/EBU digital cable / Schiit Yggdrasil Analog 2 DAC / Octave HP 700 preamp / Octave RE 320 stereo amp with Super Black Box / Reference 3A Reflector monitors on Sound Anchors Signature Stands / dual JL Audio Fathom 112 v2 subwoofers on ASC SubTraps / ZenWave Audio D4 and SMSG cables / Acoustic treatment: tube traps, Tri-panels, window plugs, ceiling diffusers (all ASC), large absorbing panels (Acoustics First), diverse carpets chosen for acoustic properties: wool, polypropylene basket-weave
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September 8, 2018, 02:14 AM #66
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September 8, 2018, 10:49 AM #67
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Brinkmann Bardo w/ EMT HSD-006 cart, MSB Reference DAC --> Linear Tube Audio MicroZOTL --> Ampzilla 2000, 2nd Edition --> Fyne Audio F1-12
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September 8, 2018, 11:13 AM #68
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DCS Rossini I believe. I had an Yggy I took on trade (latest version) and I preferred the Lampi GA and MSB. But at $2400...it’s good. Just wish it did DSD and MQA. But again, I really feel there are DAC’s that fall into that musical, more organic category and others that don’t. You will find people who really do prefer that thin, crunchy, digital, hashy, processed sound. Maybe they grew up on MP3’s...don’t know?
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September 8, 2018, 11:41 AM #69
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I understand exactly what you are saying.
I want my next dac organic musical fluid but i m not ready to trade dynamic decay details micro and macro and all the rest......
I m heading towards new r2r dacs like msb, totaldac tube mk2, denafrips terminal .....
I hope someone make comparaisons of all these superstar dacs!!
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September 8, 2018, 02:51 PM #70
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September 8, 2018, 05:25 PM #71
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The comparison was with dCS Vivaldi plus Upsampler (MSRP $ 63K without cables). I have heard that comparison in Ian's system many times.
I just had an audio friend over who is pretty picky (in a good way), and he was also very impressed with the Yggy.
Doesn't say I'll never buy another DAC (MSB?) but I'm not itching.Simaudio Moon Neo 260 DT CD Transport / MIT SL-Matrix Plus AES/EBU digital cable / Schiit Yggdrasil Analog 2 DAC / Octave HP 700 preamp / Octave RE 320 stereo amp with Super Black Box / Reference 3A Reflector monitors on Sound Anchors Signature Stands / dual JL Audio Fathom 112 v2 subwoofers on ASC SubTraps / ZenWave Audio D4 and SMSG cables / Acoustic treatment: tube traps, Tri-panels, window plugs, ceiling diffusers (all ASC), large absorbing panels (Acoustics First), diverse carpets chosen for acoustic properties: wool, polypropylene basket-weave
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September 8, 2018, 05:29 PM #72
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Simaudio Moon Neo 260 DT CD Transport / MIT SL-Matrix Plus AES/EBU digital cable / Schiit Yggdrasil Analog 2 DAC / Octave HP 700 preamp / Octave RE 320 stereo amp with Super Black Box / Reference 3A Reflector monitors on Sound Anchors Signature Stands / dual JL Audio Fathom 112 v2 subwoofers on ASC SubTraps / ZenWave Audio D4 and SMSG cables / Acoustic treatment: tube traps, Tri-panels, window plugs, ceiling diffusers (all ASC), large absorbing panels (Acoustics First), diverse carpets chosen for acoustic properties: wool, polypropylene basket-weave
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September 8, 2018, 05:35 PM #73
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My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
"We can hear everything we measure, but we can't measure everything we hear. Let your ears be your guide."
Dealer for: Aqua Hi-Fi, Aurender, AudioQuest Cables & Power Products, Berkeley Audio, Block Audio (distributor), Boulder Amplifiers, Bowers & Wilkins (B&W), Bryston, Clarisys Audio Loudspeakers (distributor), Classe’ Audio, Degritter Record Cleaning Machines, Esoteric, Finite Elemente, FirstWatt, Focal Loudspeakers and Headphones, GigaFoil, Harbeth Loudspeakers, Hegel, HiFi Man, Innuos, ISO Acoustics, Keces Power Supplies, Kharma Loudspeakers and Electronics, Kuzma Turntables, Lumin, Luxman, Magico Loudspeakers, MBL Speakers & Electronics, MSB Technologies, MySonicLabs Phono Cartridges, Nordost Cables, Ortofon, Pass Labs, Quadraspire, Rega Turntables and Electronics, Shunyata Research, STAX, Stein Music Products, Stillpoints, Soulution, VAC, Vicoustics, Viva Audio, VPI Industries, WireWorld Cables.
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September 8, 2018, 06:06 PM #74
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Simaudio Moon Neo 260 DT CD Transport / MIT SL-Matrix Plus AES/EBU digital cable / Schiit Yggdrasil Analog 2 DAC / Octave HP 700 preamp / Octave RE 320 stereo amp with Super Black Box / Reference 3A Reflector monitors on Sound Anchors Signature Stands / dual JL Audio Fathom 112 v2 subwoofers on ASC SubTraps / ZenWave Audio D4 and SMSG cables / Acoustic treatment: tube traps, Tri-panels, window plugs, ceiling diffusers (all ASC), large absorbing panels (Acoustics First), diverse carpets chosen for acoustic properties: wool, polypropylene basket-weave
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September 9, 2018, 03:29 AM #75
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Digital: Innuos Zenith Mk3 Server + MSB Premier DAC with Powerbase
Amp: Gryphon Pandora + Gryphon Antileon Evo Stereo
Speakers: Magico S3 MkII
Cables: MIT SL-Matrix 36 XLR interconnect cables + 70 speaker cables; AQ Diamond & Vodka ethernet cables
Power: AQ Niagara 5000 + AQ Tornado power cables
Headphones (travel): Sennheiser Momentum + Chord Mojo
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September 9, 2018, 12:39 PM #76
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Am at circa 130 hours. Now hearing bass definition and depth for the first time. But still not there yet. The mids and highs are liquid though. Enjoying this journey.
Keith - any update on your Femto 93?Digital: Innuos Zenith Mk3 Server + MSB Premier DAC with Powerbase
Amp: Gryphon Pandora + Gryphon Antileon Evo Stereo
Speakers: Magico S3 MkII
Cables: MIT SL-Matrix 36 XLR interconnect cables + 70 speaker cables; AQ Diamond & Vodka ethernet cables
Power: AQ Niagara 5000 + AQ Tornado power cables
Headphones (travel): Sennheiser Momentum + Chord Mojo
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September 9, 2018, 02:01 PM #77
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Am doing my best to be restrained. And I only have 130 hours consecutive hours of burn in time, so have some way to go.
But this sound is seriously extraordinary.
Just listened to my go-to audio testing track (Decks Dark by Radiohead) and I have never heard it sound like this.
It is liquid - like the terminator guy. Like a fondue. On steroids. Am seriously blown away.
Amazing.
Digital: Innuos Zenith Mk3 Server + MSB Premier DAC with Powerbase
Amp: Gryphon Pandora + Gryphon Antileon Evo Stereo
Speakers: Magico S3 MkII
Cables: MIT SL-Matrix 36 XLR interconnect cables + 70 speaker cables; AQ Diamond & Vodka ethernet cables
Power: AQ Niagara 5000 + AQ Tornado power cables
Headphones (travel): Sennheiser Momentum + Chord Mojo
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September 16, 2018, 08:07 PM #78
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September 16, 2018, 10:13 PM #79
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Small but noticeable improvement all round - but big improvement in the bass, particularly the mid bass. It is sounding really good now. I love it. And I am using the supplied power cable as I wait for a new AQ Tornado. So I expect it to get a little better.
Has anyone had a chance to compare the Premier with its base clock against the upgraded Fento 93? That will be a very interesting comparison.Digital: Innuos Zenith Mk3 Server + MSB Premier DAC with Powerbase
Amp: Gryphon Pandora + Gryphon Antileon Evo Stereo
Speakers: Magico S3 MkII
Cables: MIT SL-Matrix 36 XLR interconnect cables + 70 speaker cables; AQ Diamond & Vodka ethernet cables
Power: AQ Niagara 5000 + AQ Tornado power cables
Headphones (travel): Sennheiser Momentum + Chord Mojo
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September 18, 2018, 07:37 AM #80
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Keith - how are you getting on with yours?
Digital: Innuos Zenith Mk3 Server + MSB Premier DAC with Powerbase
Amp: Gryphon Pandora + Gryphon Antileon Evo Stereo
Speakers: Magico S3 MkII
Cables: MIT SL-Matrix 36 XLR interconnect cables + 70 speaker cables; AQ Diamond & Vodka ethernet cables
Power: AQ Niagara 5000 + AQ Tornado power cables
Headphones (travel): Sennheiser Momentum + Chord Mojo
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September 18, 2018, 08:10 AM #81
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The Premier in the store has been running non-stop and has really started to show the true MSB sound. Big sound, analog smooth, gorgeous lush mids and a fabulous combination with any amp/preamp I try it with.
My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
"We can hear everything we measure, but we can't measure everything we hear. Let your ears be your guide."
Dealer for: Aqua Hi-Fi, Aurender, AudioQuest Cables & Power Products, Berkeley Audio, Block Audio (distributor), Boulder Amplifiers, Bowers & Wilkins (B&W), Bryston, Clarisys Audio Loudspeakers (distributor), Classe’ Audio, Degritter Record Cleaning Machines, Esoteric, Finite Elemente, FirstWatt, Focal Loudspeakers and Headphones, GigaFoil, Harbeth Loudspeakers, Hegel, HiFi Man, Innuos, ISO Acoustics, Keces Power Supplies, Kharma Loudspeakers and Electronics, Kuzma Turntables, Lumin, Luxman, Magico Loudspeakers, MBL Speakers & Electronics, MSB Technologies, MySonicLabs Phono Cartridges, Nordost Cables, Ortofon, Pass Labs, Quadraspire, Rega Turntables and Electronics, Shunyata Research, STAX, Stein Music Products, Stillpoints, Soulution, VAC, Vicoustics, Viva Audio, VPI Industries, WireWorld Cables.
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September 18, 2018, 08:18 AM #82
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Mike - how many hours of burn in until it reaches optimal performance? I am at around 250 hours now and it is still improving.
Digital: Innuos Zenith Mk3 Server + MSB Premier DAC with Powerbase
Amp: Gryphon Pandora + Gryphon Antileon Evo Stereo
Speakers: Magico S3 MkII
Cables: MIT SL-Matrix 36 XLR interconnect cables + 70 speaker cables; AQ Diamond & Vodka ethernet cables
Power: AQ Niagara 5000 + AQ Tornado power cables
Headphones (travel): Sennheiser Momentum + Chord Mojo
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September 18, 2018, 08:49 AM #83
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My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
"We can hear everything we measure, but we can't measure everything we hear. Let your ears be your guide."
Dealer for: Aqua Hi-Fi, Aurender, AudioQuest Cables & Power Products, Berkeley Audio, Block Audio (distributor), Boulder Amplifiers, Bowers & Wilkins (B&W), Bryston, Clarisys Audio Loudspeakers (distributor), Classe’ Audio, Degritter Record Cleaning Machines, Esoteric, Finite Elemente, FirstWatt, Focal Loudspeakers and Headphones, GigaFoil, Harbeth Loudspeakers, Hegel, HiFi Man, Innuos, ISO Acoustics, Keces Power Supplies, Kharma Loudspeakers and Electronics, Kuzma Turntables, Lumin, Luxman, Magico Loudspeakers, MBL Speakers & Electronics, MSB Technologies, MySonicLabs Phono Cartridges, Nordost Cables, Ortofon, Pass Labs, Quadraspire, Rega Turntables and Electronics, Shunyata Research, STAX, Stein Music Products, Stillpoints, Soulution, VAC, Vicoustics, Viva Audio, VPI Industries, WireWorld Cables.
https://suncoastaudio.com/
Phone: 941-932-0282
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Suncoast-Au...1105178279194/
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September 19, 2018, 10:32 AM #84
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I have watched this tread and waited with anticipation of every word printed in regards to the MSB Premier DAC as I waited for my demo to arrive. I have been in this hobby for decades and have never written a review but as my now purchased Premier settled in to 2 weeks of break-in I feel compelled to tell the story. Hopefully within the next few days I will be able to put my experience into words. I say this as I feel this was such a moving component I want to pay it justice and support my comments with previous experience, knowledge and ownership not just spit out random thoughts . I might call my review " MSB Premier , Holy Mother of Jesus !"
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September 19, 2018, 10:38 AM #85
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September 19, 2018, 10:57 AM #86
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I do not know how to use quote so :"I want to pay it justice and support my comments with previous experience, knowledge and ownership" That is why I need time and yes I will list current equipment as well as past ownership for reference. I will submit for your reference personal experience and industry knowledge so one can see if what I know may be valid or disregarded as someone who wishes they knew . I'll leave that up to you.
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September 19, 2018, 11:13 AM #87
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accidental duplicate post
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September 25, 2018, 12:12 PM #88
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Digital: Innuos Zenith Mk3 Server + MSB Premier DAC with Powerbase
Amp: Gryphon Pandora + Gryphon Antileon Evo Stereo
Speakers: Magico S3 MkII
Cables: MIT SL-Matrix 36 XLR interconnect cables + 70 speaker cables; AQ Diamond & Vodka ethernet cables
Power: AQ Niagara 5000 + AQ Tornado power cables
Headphones (travel): Sennheiser Momentum + Chord Mojo
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November 14, 2018, 10:37 AM #89
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Hey guys, I'm thinking of upgrading my Meitner MA-1 to an MSB Discrete or Premier. I demo'ed my Meitner against the Discrete with dual power supplies yesterday at a local dealer and I thought it would be closer of a competition, but it was a noticeable difference and just not as fun to listen with the Meitner compared to even the Discrete.
I'm thinking of either a Discrete or Premier with dual power supplies and the network renderer module. Looking to go for the black finish, also. I have a half black/half silver system and I'm thinking of going all black.
1. What thoughts do you all have on Discrete vs. Premier?
2. Thoughts on the finish: silver vs. black? Personal preference for sure, but just wondering if I'm missing a difference in the quality of the finish?
Thanks!
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November 14, 2018, 12:14 PM #90
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Welcome to the forum, thank you for joining.
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November 14, 2018, 01:04 PM #91
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My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
"We can hear everything we measure, but we can't measure everything we hear. Let your ears be your guide."
Dealer for: Aqua Hi-Fi, Aurender, AudioQuest Cables & Power Products, Berkeley Audio, Block Audio (distributor), Boulder Amplifiers, Bowers & Wilkins (B&W), Bryston, Clarisys Audio Loudspeakers (distributor), Classe’ Audio, Degritter Record Cleaning Machines, Esoteric, Finite Elemente, FirstWatt, Focal Loudspeakers and Headphones, GigaFoil, Harbeth Loudspeakers, Hegel, HiFi Man, Innuos, ISO Acoustics, Keces Power Supplies, Kharma Loudspeakers and Electronics, Kuzma Turntables, Lumin, Luxman, Magico Loudspeakers, MBL Speakers & Electronics, MSB Technologies, MySonicLabs Phono Cartridges, Nordost Cables, Ortofon, Pass Labs, Quadraspire, Rega Turntables and Electronics, Shunyata Research, STAX, Stein Music Products, Stillpoints, Soulution, VAC, Vicoustics, Viva Audio, VPI Industries, WireWorld Cables.
https://suncoastaudio.com/
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November 14, 2018, 01:19 PM #92
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As one of the long timers with MSB you won't be sorry either with the sound or their service/upgrade/modular upgrades. I fell in love years ago with the Analogue, my "buddy" threw me for a look with the IV Plus which was mind blowing for the time and then MSB upgraded me to Select II. I had a Meitner I think it was the DAC2 which was actually more expensive than the older Analogue and I was literally shocked by how good the Analogue was.
Nothing against the Meitner, he makes great stuff and I greatly respect his abilities and equipment. It's preference and mine leans towards MSB.
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November 14, 2018, 04:47 PM #95
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"Value" is up to the individual, but its hard to beat Premier with the 2 smaller PS. But you must get the 2nd one for a nominal fee.
As far as finish, I chose black as I don't want the dac to be the focus on my shelf. My ARC Ref 75ASE and Brinkmann Bardo are the focal points.Brinkmann Bardo w/ EMT HSD-006 cart, MSB Reference DAC --> Linear Tube Audio MicroZOTL --> Ampzilla 2000, 2nd Edition --> Fyne Audio F1-12
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November 14, 2018, 10:58 PM #96
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I have the black Discrete with the two PS. The PS are the same for the Discrete and Premiere. Jonathan told me that it will be possible to upgrade the Discrete to a Premiere for what he thinks will be not much more than the original cost. That is what I am planning on doing one of these days.
My system:
Power: PS Audio P15 , dedicated 20amp circuits
Front End: MSB Discrete DAC with MSB renderer
Pre: Simaudio Moon 740P
Amp: McIntosh MC462
Speakers: B&W 802 D3
Interconnects: AQ Earth XLR and Stealth Metacarbon
Speaker Cable: AQ Type 4 (20 ft runs)
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December 23, 2018, 05:21 PM #97
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Thanks for everyone’s help! I am the proud new owner of a black Premier with dual discrete power supplies, network renderer module and Femto 93 clock! Loving it and the burn in is real on this!
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December 23, 2018, 05:23 PM #98
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Congrats on your purchase. I personally have auditioned MANY of the top DAC's out there and I really liked the new MSB Select. It's legit. Too many DAC's aren't as great sounding as their price. I won't disparage them as we all hear differently, and folks who spend that kind of money don't need an idiot like me to say anything bad about their DAC's, lol.
If I had the money and it didn't matter, the Select would be on my short short list to bring in with a couple of others.System:
Vandersteen Quatro CT
Ayre AX5/20
The Memory Player with built in DAC and headphone amp built in on order
AQ Niagara 1000 power device
Audioquest William Tell bi wire speaker cable
Wireworld 8 optical cable into the Empirical Audio Synchro Mesh from the TV and Blueray to reclock
Wireworld Platnium 8 ethernet cables into the EMO 70e ethernet filter into The Memory Player from Eero mesh router
All routers, cable box and synchro mesh powered by the Wyred4sound LPS box with separate supplies for each
Audioquest power outlets and four dedicated power lines in the room
ZMF Ori headphones with the Audioarts 15' Pono balanced cable for the QX5/20
Empire Ears Phantom CIEM's
Rhapsodio 2.98 mk2 gold plated silver cable for Phantom
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December 23, 2018, 06:25 PM #100
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"No summit worth climbing is easily attained."
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Source: MSB Select II DAC with Two Mono Powerbases and Femto 33 Clock; Renderer V2 Digital Input Module and Roon Nucleus Plus; MSB UMT V Signature Transport
Amps: Vandersteen M7-HPA Mono Amps; MSB M204 Mono Amps
Speakers: Vandersteen Model 7 Mk2
Power: Two AudioQuest Niagara 5000’s with AudioQuest Dragon and Hurricane Power Cords
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Thank you for making me feel less tech challenged.:whew: FYI, The 866 works great as a straight, no nonsense integrated with DAC.
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