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January 26, 2019, 01:29 PM #51
Re: Cleaning up dirty power...What's your flavor?
Annata, please read as much of these articles as you can. Never take any as THE WORD. They will constantly contradict each other. Over time you will have to develop your own beliefs.
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January 27, 2019, 07:11 PM #52
Re: Cleaning up dirty power...What's your flavor?
+1 on this....I've read the article shared in this thread from Annatta and many others. If they were all true, power cords and so many other things would not make a difference. It would all be up to the mains power quality and the quality of the designs of the components themselves.
Legacy Audio Valor+Wavelet v2, Esoteric S-02 Amps HDPlex 300W, RevAudio Labs DC Umbilical, Esoteric Grandioso P1, P1PSU & dual D1 DACs, Cybershaft Prem Ltd OP21A 10 MHz Clock, Esoteric C-02X, Shunyata Everest 8000 & Altaira SG-NR hubs, Sigma SGC/CGC ground cables, VTX-Ag ground tails, AfterBurner8 duplexes, CSP Inc Q4B, S2B IEC plates, Shunyata Omega CLOCK-50 cables, Tubulus Concentus HDMI, Elrod Master Series Diamond SE & Masters Series Gold Power cords and Statement Gold XLRs, Diamond XLRs & Master Series Diamond XLRs, Shunyata OMEGA QR-s power cable, Anaconda Z-tron XLR, Elrod Statement Gold speaker cables, Adona Zero GX3, GX2, GX racks, Composite Audio CF-2010, Townshend Audio Podiums, HRS DPX Damping Plates, Stillpoints Ultra SS w/Ultra Bases, pArtScience 64-well, 2D QRD 3-inch SpaceArray Diffusors
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January 28, 2019, 10:31 AM #53
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Re: Cleaning up dirty power...What's your flavor?
Technical articles on electricity/audio can be particularly baffling to liberal arts educated tech-illiterate types like me. It's almost as if one has to choose someone you trust (both for their technical competence and their trustworthiness) and try their path-- and then go to the trouble to methodically do a listening test (which is not always easy to do effectively).
I've been using a PS Audio P12 for awhile. I still haven't conclusively determined if it improves my sound in the way their marketing verbiage describes.
This article shared by Annata essentially says, if I understand, that it's absurd to expect sine wave regeneration to have any audible improvement, because once the Regenerator regenerates the AC sine wave, it will then return to it's previous compromised form when it is converted to DC.
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January 28, 2019, 12:20 PM #54
Re: Cleaning up dirty power...What's your flavor?
I believe he did say that which goes against my anecdotical evidence that every single piece of anything you put in the power path makes a sound.
The only device that has not made a sound is the Akiko Corelli which I believe is also a Shunyata Typhoon. You don't plug into it, it plugs into your power strip and supposedly absorbes high frequency noise.
I have a belief, do not use anything unless you need it to fix a problem. Others love any Audioquest, shunyata etc they can afford. As a point to note. In the most recent February TAS and the past issue where Herb Reichel wrote about the Audioquest Niagara 1000. Please note they both said they were comparing it against a Home Depot power strip. If you are using as such, immediately throw it away. That is your biggest hindrance to good sound via anything connected to it.
I also believe power conditioners are very system dependent. IMO, ss amps accept power conditioners better than tube.
IMO, the only thing you should absolutely do is run dedicated feeds to your equipment rack with the best wire you can afford. Think OFC 10 awg. Avoid using receptacles with your main power feed (This is not NEC but works great). Go right from the feed into the best quality power strip you can afford. Ground your panel as best you can. Use a sub panel with suplimental ground of copper rods and #1 copper wire from panel to rod. Deox the connection and shrink wrap the connection. You want to eliminate oxidation. Always use the same phase for every circuit in your audio, video system.
I personally double the size of my grounds by paralleling a military spec silver coated #10 conductor alongside the #10 cu conductor in my power feed.
I have seen people double the neutral too. Say a #10 for the hot and #8 for the neutral and #8 for the ground.
Don't get me started on shielding. That's just a pissing match.
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January 28, 2019, 11:35 PM #55
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Re: Cleaning up dirty power...What's your flavor?
Totally agree on system dependent. It’s only recently that I have started to use cords. The AQ line has transformed my system, but it may not to much for others. This is why I will only buy if I can return.
System:
Vandersteen Quatro CT
Ayre AX5/20
The Memory Player with built in DAC and headphone amp built in on order
AQ Niagara 1000 power device
Audioquest William Tell bi wire speaker cable
Wireworld 8 optical cable into the Empirical Audio Synchro Mesh from the TV and Blueray to reclock
Wireworld Platnium 8 ethernet cables into the EMO 70e ethernet filter into The Memory Player from Eero mesh router
All routers, cable box and synchro mesh powered by the Wyred4sound LPS box with separate supplies for each
Audioquest power outlets and four dedicated power lines in the room
ZMF Ori headphones with the Audioarts 15' Pono balanced cable for the QX5/20
Empire Ears Phantom CIEM's
Rhapsodio 2.98 mk2 gold plated silver cable for Phantom
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January 28, 2019, 11:39 PM #56
Re: Cleaning up dirty power...What's your flavor?
First Sound Mark3SI preamp. Audion Black Shadow 845 SET Monoblocks. Mojo Audio Deja Vu Server. Mojo Audio Mystic 3 DAC. Linear Solution Ethernet Switch. Gigafoil with LPS. STST Motus II TT with Vertere SG1 arm, Hana ML Cartridge, Allnic H1201 phono pre. Pure Audio Project Trio 15 Horn speakers with Mundord Supreme oil caps. Power via 10 awg Oyaide cable from panel to custom distribution strip feeding front end. Oyaide dedicated10 AWG branch circuits from panel to each amp. Inakustik speaker and interconnect cables, Genesis Interconnect.
Kingrexelectric.com Lyncole certified grounding specialist.
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January 29, 2019, 03:23 AM #57
Re: Cleaning up dirty power...What's your flavor?
Source Analog: Kuzma Stabi R w/4point 11 arm | Kuzma 50 Cartridge
Source Digital: Aurender N10 | Brinkmann Nyquist MK II
Amplification: Dan D’Agostino Momentum HD and M400’s | Boulder 508
Speakers: Wilson Alexias
Cabling: Nordost Leif, Norse, V2 and Odin
Power and Isolation: Audio-Ultra Home & Room Power Foundation Performance Package with StromTank S1000 | HRS
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I upgraded the power supply on my Gigafoil v4 to a Weiss PSU 102. It’s very nice step up. But with the new model, you’re looking at $2000 before even investing in a SOTA linear power supply.
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