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July 3, 2018, 06:51 PM #1
What is the single most influential cable for sound quality in an audio system?
What is the single most influential cable for sound quality in an audio system?
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July 3, 2018, 06:56 PM #2
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Re: What is the single most influential cable for sound quality in an audio system?
For analog cables it would be a poorly chosen or designed one that allows increased noise/interference.
For digital cables it's more of a go, no go situation.
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July 3, 2018, 08:02 PM #3
Re: What is the single most influential cable for sound quality in an audio system?
Perhaps the power cable(s) on amp(s)?
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July 3, 2018, 09:25 PM #4
Re: What is the single most influential cable for sound quality in an audio system?
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July 4, 2018, 12:24 AM #5
Re: What is the single most influential cable for sound quality in an audio system?
BlueJean cables. Allowed me to spend more of my audio budget on other components that actually made a noticeable difference such as better speakers and amp.
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- Focal Sopra 1 + Focal Utopia headphones
- REL T9i subwoofer
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July 4, 2018, 01:22 AM #6
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July 4, 2018, 01:27 AM #7
Re: What is the single most influential cable for sound quality in an audio system?
For me it’s the design and work of the power cable
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July 4, 2018, 07:01 AM #8
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Re: What is the single most influential cable for sound quality in an audio system?
Funny back when I had Dynaudio C1's and the Octave V110 speaker cables made the most difference followed by interconnects and last was power cords.
That said with my current setup (and Lars coming to my home with Ansuz prototype cables doing an in home demo) it now is the power cords first (D-TC of course) followed by interconnects and last is speaker cables. Also although not a cable the Mainz D-TC power distribution made a bigger difference than anything especially when used with Ansuz power cables.George
Aavik U300 - Borresen 03 with optional Supreme D-TC feet - Naim unitiserve 2tb - Ansuz DTC digital cable with power box - Ansuz Mainz8 D-TC with 1 Ansuz Supreme D-TC and 1 Ceramic V2 power cords - Ansuz Ceramic V2 speaker cables - Ansus X Ethernet - pARTicular Novus full suspension rack.
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July 4, 2018, 10:16 AM #9
Re: What is the single most influential cable for sound quality in an audio system?
Power cords. It all starts with clean, unimpeded power.
Anthony
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July 4, 2018, 10:22 AM #10
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July 4, 2018, 04:22 PM #11
Re: What is the single most influential cable for sound quality in an audio system?
The cable from the power pole to my house.
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July 4, 2018, 04:45 PM #12
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Re: What is the single most influential cable for sound quality in an audio system?
I am surprised nobody has said the most influential cable is speaker cable. I am not saying it is, just that I thought it would get at least one vote. Perhaps speaker cable is harder to come by for auditioning. Also,unless bi-wired, there is only one pair of speaker cables in a system but multiple power cords and they are easier to swap.
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July 4, 2018, 04:54 PM #13
Re: What is the single most influential cable for sound quality in an audio system?
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July 4, 2018, 07:47 PM #14
What is the single most influential cable for sound quality in an audio system?
Speaker cables for me as well. Especially my current MIT EVO. Power cables is cumulative effect. Wall to conditioner and the one on the DAC make most improvement. But I spent a lot more than blue jeans cables, so it could very well be my mind and ears playing tricks on me. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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July 5, 2018, 07:46 AM #15
Re: What is the single most influential cable for sound quality in an audio system?
Speaker and XLR IC combo (I only tested them as a combo) improved the imaging the most. Power cables the SQ and ‘weight’ of the sound. Digital the clarity.
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July 5, 2018, 08:53 AM #16
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July 5, 2018, 12:22 PM #17
Re: What is the single most influential cable for sound quality in an audio system?
My initial thought was power cords, but after considering what I could live without, speaker cables are more important. If I switched back to all stock power cords and kept my pricey speaker cables, I believe I would have better sound than a pricey power cord and some hardware store speaker wire that I used to use.
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Cable: Transparent Ref Gen 5 SC & Ref XL PC
Grounding: Tripoint Elite, Thor SE, Emperor Mkii
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July 5, 2018, 01:52 PM #18
Re: What is the single most influential cable for sound quality in an audio system?
It might depend on the manufacturer but I will go with speaker cable.
Jim
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July 5, 2018, 02:43 PM #19
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July 5, 2018, 02:44 PM #20
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July 5, 2018, 03:45 PM #21
Re: What is the single most influential cable for sound quality in an audio system?
Analog:
MC amplification from 0.2 mV to line level - 80 dB, about 10,000 times:
1. cord from cardridge to pre amp
2. cord from phono stage to line amp
every electron (whatever that might be) counts.
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July 5, 2018, 04:23 PM #22
What is the single most influential cable for sound quality in an audio system?
If I may venture a guess, a dedicated (20A) line might lessen the weight/importance of individual power cords to audio components, thus allowing for greater discernible differences heard with varying speaker (and interconnect) cables, comparatively. Again, just thinking-aloud thoughts, nothing more.
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July 5, 2018, 05:36 PM #23
Re: What is the single most influential cable for sound quality in an audio system?
You are correct! The Emperor MKii ground cable Miguel is shipping tomorrow will take the cake. His products get me closer to the sound I'm chasing. I guess I was thinking in terms of cable necessity. Obviously you can get sound without grounding cables but after you hear them, would you want it without?
DaveSpeaker: Rockport Avior & Mira, B&W 803 D
Amp: Nagra HD Monos, McIntosh Mc303 & 601
Pre: Nagra HD pre
Source: Esoteric K-01X & G-01, Aurender W20
Cable: Transparent Ref Gen 5 SC & Ref XL PC
Grounding: Tripoint Elite, Thor SE, Emperor Mkii
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July 5, 2018, 06:41 PM #24mauidanGuest
Re: What is the single most influential cable for sound quality in an audio system?
Cable from circuit box to the listening room:
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July 5, 2018, 07:49 PM #25
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July 5, 2018, 08:28 PM #26
Re: What is the single most influential cable for sound quality in an audio system?
Sean
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AudioQuest Hurricane HC
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HRS E1
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July 7, 2018, 10:42 AM #27
Re: What is the single most influential cable for sound quality in an audio system?
My experience is that the effect cables have on the end product is cumulative. Reduction in the quality of any one cable will result in a loss of sound quality.
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