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May 17, 2018, 01:16 PM #1
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Looking for a power cable for my Pass Labs Amp
Most likely I will get a Pass Labs X 350.8 amp in soon, and I’m looking for a power cable for this amp. May I know what cable work best for this amp? i cannot accept hard cable. Some PC like steel that I really hate. I have a Shunyata Sigma Analogue for my per-amp, it sounds nice but this cable's diameter is too thick for me. THX.
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May 17, 2018, 01:23 PM #2
Re: Looking for a power cable for my Pass Labs Amp
If Shunyata is out of the question due to size you might want to try the AQ Dragon.
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May 17, 2018, 01:57 PM #3
Re: Looking for a power cable for my Pass Labs Amp
if you're not content with the one that comes with it try one of these ..... http://signalcable.com/magicpower.html
I'm using them on my X260.8's , zero complaints .........Cheers ! …. Dave
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May 17, 2018, 10:51 PM #4
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Re: Looking for a power cable for my Pass Labs Amp
Thanks! How about Wireworld Platinum Electra 7? It's a flat cable , very soft. I heard it sounds very nice and match with Pass amp perfectly. But the price seem to be very high...
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May 17, 2018, 11:29 PM #5
Re: Looking for a power cable for my Pass Labs Amp
The best easy-to-manage AC cable is Siltech Ruby Hill II, IME. I have yet to find a better built quality. Sounds good too of course.
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May 17, 2018, 11:31 PM #6
Re: Looking for a power cable for my Pass Labs Amp
Shunyata Alpha EF (extreme flexibility)
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May 18, 2018, 09:15 AM #7
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May 18, 2018, 10:18 AM #8
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May 18, 2018, 10:37 AM #9
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Re: Looking for a power cable for my Pass Labs Amp
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0027JRMD0/
Seriously. No joke. I don't believe in fancy power chords. I have this one for my own amp. You also save a lot of money that you can put into real upgrades.Simaudio Moon Neo 260 DT CD Transport / MIT SL-Matrix Plus AES/EBU digital cable / Schiit Yggdrasil Analog 2 DAC / Octave HP 700 preamp / Octave RE 320 stereo amp with Super Black Box / Reference 3A Reflector monitors on Sound Anchors Signature Stands / dual JL Audio Fathom 112 v2 subwoofers on ASC SubTraps / ZenWave Audio D4 and SMSG cables / Acoustic treatment: tube traps, Tri-panels, window plugs, ceiling diffusers (all ASC), large absorbing panels (Acoustics First), diverse carpets chosen for acoustic properties: wool, polypropylene basket-weave
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May 18, 2018, 11:10 AM #10
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Re: Looking for a power cable for my Pass Labs Amp
I just purchased a Cullen Cable power cord for my Pass X250 amp. I should have it in 7-10 days. The cables have good reviews and are reasonably priced starting at $100 and up from there. Most have 3x10g conductors.
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May 18, 2018, 11:27 AM #11
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Re: Looking for a power cable for my Pass Labs Amp
Both of these have 10AWG conductors and relatively affordable:
Shunyata Venom-HC
https://www.thecableco.com/cables/po...cord-sale.html
Kimber PK10 Base
https://www.thecableco.com/cables/po...ower-cord.html
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May 18, 2018, 11:31 AM #12
Re: Looking for a power cable for my Pass Labs Amp
Second the Shunyata Venom HC (high current).
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May 18, 2018, 01:22 PM #13
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May 18, 2018, 01:41 PM #14
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Re: Looking for a power cable for my Pass Labs Amp
True. It is a stock PC. Yet some stock PCs are so thin that for I'd rather take no chances when I only have to spend an extra $16
Would I spend time evaluating if the sound makes any difference compared to a thinner stock PC? You bet, I would NOT, not for that kind of money.
Of course, one might argue that it could have unexpected adverse effects compared to a thinner stock PC, but that would be audiophilia nervosa going overboard, in my opinion.Simaudio Moon Neo 260 DT CD Transport / MIT SL-Matrix Plus AES/EBU digital cable / Schiit Yggdrasil Analog 2 DAC / Octave HP 700 preamp / Octave RE 320 stereo amp with Super Black Box / Reference 3A Reflector monitors on Sound Anchors Signature Stands / dual JL Audio Fathom 112 v2 subwoofers on ASC SubTraps / ZenWave Audio D4 and SMSG cables / Acoustic treatment: tube traps, Tri-panels, window plugs, ceiling diffusers (all ASC), large absorbing panels (Acoustics First), diverse carpets chosen for acoustic properties: wool, polypropylene basket-weave
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May 18, 2018, 02:43 PM #15
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May 18, 2018, 02:44 PM #16
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Re: Looking for a power cable for my Pass Labs Amp
Simaudio Moon Neo 260 DT CD Transport / MIT SL-Matrix Plus AES/EBU digital cable / Schiit Yggdrasil Analog 2 DAC / Octave HP 700 preamp / Octave RE 320 stereo amp with Super Black Box / Reference 3A Reflector monitors on Sound Anchors Signature Stands / dual JL Audio Fathom 112 v2 subwoofers on ASC SubTraps / ZenWave Audio D4 and SMSG cables / Acoustic treatment: tube traps, Tri-panels, window plugs, ceiling diffusers (all ASC), large absorbing panels (Acoustics First), diverse carpets chosen for acoustic properties: wool, polypropylene basket-weave
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May 18, 2018, 05:56 PM #17
Re: Looking for a power cable for my Pass Labs Amp
I can’t imagine that one still believes after market ac cables are snake oil. All you have to do is try a viable one like Shunyata.
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May 18, 2018, 05:58 PM #18
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Re: Looking for a power cable for my Pass Labs Amp
Simaudio Moon Neo 260 DT CD Transport / MIT SL-Matrix Plus AES/EBU digital cable / Schiit Yggdrasil Analog 2 DAC / Octave HP 700 preamp / Octave RE 320 stereo amp with Super Black Box / Reference 3A Reflector monitors on Sound Anchors Signature Stands / dual JL Audio Fathom 112 v2 subwoofers on ASC SubTraps / ZenWave Audio D4 and SMSG cables / Acoustic treatment: tube traps, Tri-panels, window plugs, ceiling diffusers (all ASC), large absorbing panels (Acoustics First), diverse carpets chosen for acoustic properties: wool, polypropylene basket-weave
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May 18, 2018, 06:13 PM #19
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May 18, 2018, 08:17 PM #20
Re: Looking for a power cable for my Pass Labs Amp
most of us are saying that all are not snake oil, rather the absurd pricing is ridiculous. Listen, if you or anyone else can actually show me what justifies some of these 3-5 thousand dollar PC's I'd love to see it.
All you have to do is try a viable one like Shunyata.
Bottom line is cable discussions on forums like this never accomplish anything. The majority of those that swear by high priced wire, do so with their own subjective bias. I'd be willing to bet that most don't even have a full and complete understanding of Ohm's law.
In the end if it makes you happy........ it's your money !Cheers ! …. Dave
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May 18, 2018, 10:28 PM #21
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Re: Looking for a power cable for my Pass Labs Amp
Simaudio Moon Neo 260 DT CD Transport / MIT SL-Matrix Plus AES/EBU digital cable / Schiit Yggdrasil Analog 2 DAC / Octave HP 700 preamp / Octave RE 320 stereo amp with Super Black Box / Reference 3A Reflector monitors on Sound Anchors Signature Stands / dual JL Audio Fathom 112 v2 subwoofers on ASC SubTraps / ZenWave Audio D4 and SMSG cables / Acoustic treatment: tube traps, Tri-panels, window plugs, ceiling diffusers (all ASC), large absorbing panels (Acoustics First), diverse carpets chosen for acoustic properties: wool, polypropylene basket-weave
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May 19, 2018, 12:18 AM #22
Re: Looking for a power cable for my Pass Labs Amp
Just because the ruler you use is different than that of others, it doesn’t make you right nor it isn’t justified for others.
And that means all other after market ac cables shouldn’t be any better? Absolutely not.
I wonder who started this?
Not knowing Ohm’s law has nothing to do with one’s hearing ability. For what is worth, if you use any type of flash memory, chances are they have my design contributions.
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May 19, 2018, 08:01 AM #23
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May 19, 2018, 01:48 PM #25
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Re: Looking for a power cable for my Pass Labs Amp
OK, so this can now be added to "settled science".
There are those that can hear a difference and those that cannot.
Now this thread, if continuing, is for those that can hear a difference.My System
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May 19, 2018, 02:08 PM #26
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Re: Looking for a power cable for my Pass Labs Amp
Yes, this is made by a friend of mine.
But why don´t you give it a chance?
http://allforhifi.com/index.php?id_c...oller=category
If you don´t like you can get your money back.
To me, is the best power cable i tried (and i tried Supra, QED, Furutech; Stealth; Gigawatt; Nordost - entry level)
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May 19, 2018, 04:52 PM #27
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May 19, 2018, 05:05 PM #28
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Re: Looking for a power cable for my Pass Labs Amp
Simaudio Moon Neo 260 DT CD Transport / MIT SL-Matrix Plus AES/EBU digital cable / Schiit Yggdrasil Analog 2 DAC / Octave HP 700 preamp / Octave RE 320 stereo amp with Super Black Box / Reference 3A Reflector monitors on Sound Anchors Signature Stands / dual JL Audio Fathom 112 v2 subwoofers on ASC SubTraps / ZenWave Audio D4 and SMSG cables / Acoustic treatment: tube traps, Tri-panels, window plugs, ceiling diffusers (all ASC), large absorbing panels (Acoustics First), diverse carpets chosen for acoustic properties: wool, polypropylene basket-weave
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May 19, 2018, 06:06 PM #29
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Re: Looking for a power cable for my Pass Labs Amp
My System
Acoustic Revive RTP-4
Innuos Pulsar
Lampizator BALTIC4
Cary SLP-05
Pass XA30.5 or
Line Magnetic 845ia
Reference 3A Reflector's
Pr SVS SB3000 Subs
Cables & Tubes "subject to change without notification".
Complete system on battery power/solar
Core Audio Design Rack
DIY bass traps and custom curved diffusors.
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May 20, 2018, 10:23 PM #30
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Re: Looking for a power cable for my Pass Labs Amp
Simaudio Moon Neo 260 DT CD Transport / MIT SL-Matrix Plus AES/EBU digital cable / Schiit Yggdrasil Analog 2 DAC / Octave HP 700 preamp / Octave RE 320 stereo amp with Super Black Box / Reference 3A Reflector monitors on Sound Anchors Signature Stands / dual JL Audio Fathom 112 v2 subwoofers on ASC SubTraps / ZenWave Audio D4 and SMSG cables / Acoustic treatment: tube traps, Tri-panels, window plugs, ceiling diffusers (all ASC), large absorbing panels (Acoustics First), diverse carpets chosen for acoustic properties: wool, polypropylene basket-weave
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May 20, 2018, 10:33 PM #31
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Re: Looking for a power cable for my Pass Labs Amp
It would seem logical that upon inserting the first piece of gear that negatively altered the tonal balance of the system that you would remove that item. Certainly not continue adding more detrimental pieces of gear.
At least thats what I would do.
I'm very happy for your friend that his system is back to it's glory.My System
Acoustic Revive RTP-4
Innuos Pulsar
Lampizator BALTIC4
Cary SLP-05
Pass XA30.5 or
Line Magnetic 845ia
Reference 3A Reflector's
Pr SVS SB3000 Subs
Cables & Tubes "subject to change without notification".
Complete system on battery power/solar
Core Audio Design Rack
DIY bass traps and custom curved diffusors.
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May 21, 2018, 05:00 PM #32
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Re: Looking for a power cable for my Pass Labs Amp
When there is an item that makes my system sound worse, i always go for another one that could make it sound better.
In other words: power cables make the difference, just be careful.
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May 23, 2018, 03:14 PM #33
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May 23, 2018, 03:40 PM #34
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Re: Looking for a power cable for my Pass Labs Amp
My System
Acoustic Revive RTP-4
Innuos Pulsar
Lampizator BALTIC4
Cary SLP-05
Pass XA30.5 or
Line Magnetic 845ia
Reference 3A Reflector's
Pr SVS SB3000 Subs
Cables & Tubes "subject to change without notification".
Complete system on battery power/solar
Core Audio Design Rack
DIY bass traps and custom curved diffusors.
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May 23, 2018, 04:18 PM #35
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Re: Looking for a power cable for my Pass Labs Amp
Jadedavid,
Thanks for the answer.
Mikado 463, i don´t want to provoke you but believe me when i say that the influence of the power cables in my system is so big, that is hard to me to understand that they do not make the same in all the systems.
Now, here it goes a good provocation: do you know what can make equal or maybe more difference than a power cable?
Fuses!!!
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May 23, 2018, 06:48 PM #36
Re: Looking for a power cable for my Pass Labs Amp
I'm just trying to figure out / understand what differences I should be hearing. I have done one comparison (Signal Cable and the Venom HC ) and could not hear a difference. When I hear folks saying there are night and day differences it makes me wonder why hasn't Nelson Pass and others either adopted or at least endorsed said cables ?
Cheers ! …. Dave
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May 24, 2018, 08:59 AM #37
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Re: Looking for a power cable for my Pass Labs Amp
So, you have tried power cables. And, you have not heard a difference.
That's OK. As is appearent on this and other forums, some people don't.
A recent audio sound bite had some people hearing Yanni while others heard Laurel. It seems we don't all hear the same.
If something works for you then great. If not then leave it behind you.
In your case you now have the money you would have spent on Power Cables available to do other upgrades (purchases) or just keep it in your pocket.
MOST IMPORTANT (a quote from Dick Olsher) "A day without music is like a black and white sunset".
EnjoyMy System
Acoustic Revive RTP-4
Innuos Pulsar
Lampizator BALTIC4
Cary SLP-05
Pass XA30.5 or
Line Magnetic 845ia
Reference 3A Reflector's
Pr SVS SB3000 Subs
Cables & Tubes "subject to change without notification".
Complete system on battery power/solar
Core Audio Design Rack
DIY bass traps and custom curved diffusors.
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May 27, 2018, 09:54 AM #38
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Re: Looking for a power cable for my Pass Labs Amp
While Shunyata is large diameter...they are surprisingly supple. If Shunyata doesn't suit the OP, then the. AQ storm cables will be like installing a joint of drilling pipe. They are great sounding cords with excellent build, but so stiff and unwieldy that they will be unusable for many people.
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May 27, 2018, 12:54 PM #39
Re: Looking for a power cable for my Pass Labs Amp
Dave, for me i heard better definition of the soundstage , the bass was also better defined , things seemed to get better in all ways . And i have to say i was really surprised that power cables and a distributor could make such a difference i was and am amazed . Now i also tried loudspeaker cables and can only say , wouuu , i did not expect that to be so much better than an already good Loudspeaker cable ( Yter , used in Bi Wire configuration )
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