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    Re: AudioQuest Niagra and Storm Power Cable Review

    All depends on the system. AQ silver seems smoooooth to my ears, unlike some silver cables.


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    Re: AudioQuest Niagra and Storm Power Cable Review

    Mike, you are dead on. There are a lot of reasons for Silver getting a bad rap. When silver is slowly drawn and properly produced, it will be smooth, highly detailed and have a much lower noise floor. I think it may be due to the larger grain size, but am not 100% on that. It makes sense though.


    Mike have you ever heard Silver Cloud vs Tornado or Hurricane? Just curious. I have Quatro's as you know, so I'll be wanting either Blizzard or possibly Thunder or Tornado most probably. I know that silver would be lose on the bass only amp. Even Richard V said as much.
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    Vandersteen Quatro CT
    Ayre AX5/20
    The Memory Player with built in DAC and headphone amp built in on order
    AQ Niagara 1000 power device
    Audioquest William Tell bi wire speaker cable
    Wireworld 8 optical cable into the Empirical Audio Synchro Mesh from the TV and Blueray to reclock
    Wireworld Platnium 8 ethernet cables into the EMO 70e ethernet filter into The Memory Player from Eero mesh router
    All routers, cable box and synchro mesh powered by the Wyred4sound LPS box with separate supplies for each
    Audioquest power outlets and four dedicated power lines in the room
    ZMF Ori headphones with the Audioarts 15' Pono balanced cable for the QX5/20
    Empire Ears Phantom CIEM's
    Rhapsodio 2.98 mk2 gold plated silver cable for Phantom

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    Re: AudioQuest Niagra and Storm Power Cable Review

    From my experience, particularly with interconnects, AQ silver is smooth, crisp, and transparent. The higher up you go in the line the more neutral they are, meaning if your system is bright it will show just that. I was actually surprised comparing the Fire interconnect cables vs. WEL, the Fires were actually on the warmer side. I can imagine you get the same with the power cables.
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    Re: AudioQuest Niagra and Storm Power Cable Review

    Quote Originally Posted by eziggy View Post
    From my experience, particularly with interconnects, AQ silver is smooth, crisp, and transparent. The higher up you go in the line the more neutral they are, meaning if your system is bright it will show just that. I was actually surprised comparing the Fire interconnect cables vs. WEL, the Fires were actually on the warmer side. I can imagine you get the same with the power cables.
    From what I hear, you are correct in that everything gets better and better the higher up you go. Neutral as heck compared to all the other cables folks have brought to the house to hear. I own the WEL balanced from The memory Player server/DAC into my Ayre AX5/20 and it was a system revelation. I was blessed to be able to get the cable (used from a friend who really helped me out). It's one reason I am hesitant to go with mono blocks (that plus space concerned, lol). The more you have invested in cable, the more difficult it is to change configuration or move the system around the room, lol..
    System:
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    Ayre AX5/20
    The Memory Player with built in DAC and headphone amp built in on order
    AQ Niagara 1000 power device
    Audioquest William Tell bi wire speaker cable
    Wireworld 8 optical cable into the Empirical Audio Synchro Mesh from the TV and Blueray to reclock
    Wireworld Platnium 8 ethernet cables into the EMO 70e ethernet filter into The Memory Player from Eero mesh router
    All routers, cable box and synchro mesh powered by the Wyred4sound LPS box with separate supplies for each
    Audioquest power outlets and four dedicated power lines in the room
    ZMF Ori headphones with the Audioarts 15' Pono balanced cable for the QX5/20
    Empire Ears Phantom CIEM's
    Rhapsodio 2.98 mk2 gold plated silver cable for Phantom

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    Re: AudioQuest Niagra and Storm Power Cable Review

    I have the WEL XLRs too and I couldn't be more happy. But I'd say that WELs are more balanced sounding than the Fires! Just my 2 cents.
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    Re: AudioQuest Niagra and Storm Power Cable Review

    Hey Guys, just found this thread. I am a big fan of Nordost Cables. Primarily have the Odin 2/Odin 1 power cables.

    I read Mike's post about the blind testing with a variety of power cables. And the Audioquest was the clear winner. Just wanted to see which ones from AQ were used. AND I know this thread is 2 years old but what did they find -what sonic attributes did the AQ exhibit over the others?

    The Odin power cables are detailed & yet not forward. IN my system they just make the soundstage come alive and multilayered.

    I still need to get a few more and this has my interest.

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    Re: AudioQuest Niagra and Storm Power Cable Review

    Quote Originally Posted by Timobi View Post
    Hey Guys, just found this thread. I am a big fan of Nordost Cables. Primarily have the Odin 2/Odin 1 power cables.

    I read Mike's post about the blind testing with a variety of power cables. And the Audioquest was the clear winner. Just wanted to see which ones from AQ were used. AND I know this thread is 2 years old but what did they find -what sonic attributes did the AQ exhibit over the others?

    The Odin power cables are detailed & yet not forward. IN my system they just make the soundstage come alive and multilayered.

    I still need to get a few more and this has my interest.
    I have had the Odin wires in my system. I had my own Hurricanes for cords and I used my WEL balanced interconnect. The ethernet was Wireworld Series 7 (2 pair) with a. special hospital grade ethernet filter that I've ended up purchasing and using. The power is through the inexpensive Niagara 1000. The Niagara was plugged into my AQ outlet. I have 4 dedicated, same length wires running to their own breakers that are separately grounded using very very long copper rods into the ground. Square D are the basic breakers and box used. The runs are up to the loft (2nd level) and are about 15' in total length based on where the box is located as it's fairly high on the basement wall.

    We played for weeks with Odin vs all AQ. I didn't have any desire to used different companies cables/cords in the system. Odin was tipped up on the high end and it gave it a 'sense' of larger stage etc.., but in reality they were a bit bright (not as bright as some others). They just weren't balanced like the AQ wires are. They are outstanding wires, don't' get me wrong, but I am one of those who has always been bothered by wires that are tipped up on top. MANY are as it's a compromise that designers go with. I have the same issue with many speakers on the market too.

    We all have hot buttons with compromises. I also hate speakers/systems that aren't coherent from top to bottom. If a system is too bass heavy or mid centric or tipped up on top, I can't listen to it. I'm bored quickly or fatigued fairly quickly (1 hr at the most).

    I say all of this to qualify my thoughts. Over the course of time I had the wires in, there were many who listened at various times. Not once did the Nordost win out. Some of the speakers guys used who listened were Wilson, Magico, Focal,Revel, Rockport Lyra's, Vandersteen, Dynaudio, Avalon (Times), PSB, Paradigm, Meridian, B&W, Maggies, Pro Ac and a few more lesser known brands. Ears were all over the board and I believe most normally LOVE a tipped up treble and or 'pounding bass'.

    I did notice that up front many would chose the Nordost, but after the second time through of switching (not scientific, but it was blind so they didn't know what they were listening to) they all chose the AQ wires. When we looked at the results they all said that (we just used A loom or B loom to discuss) they realized that the AQ loom was more natural in presentation, sounded best on all music choices, was probably even more extended overall, but since it wasn't bright (nor was it warm), they wanted to listen longer and the piano, triangle and cymbals all sounded more realistic.

    They all liked the Odin a lot, so it's nothing against them. They just felt the AQ were much more realistic and gave more micro and macro detail. The noise floor was a lot lower with AQ and that's why they gave so much detail and why you could hear placement a bit better etc... Garth has just nailed things. I can't wait to hear what his new line of interconnects will sound like.

    When I met him (I got to hear the prototypes of the cords as well as his Niagara's (7000 and 1000) I was blown away. He's just such a passionate guy. He loves music as much as gear and he's very nice. Few are able to make technical talk understandable to the masses. He can do that. There are many in the industry who I like and also respect. I don't necessarily love or even like in some cases, their gear. We all hear differently. Mike sells and has sold so many wires over the years. He's by FAR the best adn most equipped on this board to properly answer. HE gets feedback from a wider range of customers.
    System:
    Vandersteen Quatro CT
    Ayre AX5/20
    The Memory Player with built in DAC and headphone amp built in on order
    AQ Niagara 1000 power device
    Audioquest William Tell bi wire speaker cable
    Wireworld 8 optical cable into the Empirical Audio Synchro Mesh from the TV and Blueray to reclock
    Wireworld Platnium 8 ethernet cables into the EMO 70e ethernet filter into The Memory Player from Eero mesh router
    All routers, cable box and synchro mesh powered by the Wyred4sound LPS box with separate supplies for each
    Audioquest power outlets and four dedicated power lines in the room
    ZMF Ori headphones with the Audioarts 15' Pono balanced cable for the QX5/20
    Empire Ears Phantom CIEM's
    Rhapsodio 2.98 mk2 gold plated silver cable for Phantom

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    Re: AudioQuest Niagra and Storm Power Cable Review

    Quote Originally Posted by Ctsooner View Post
    I have had the Odin wires in my system. I had my own Hurricanes for cords and I used my WEL balanced interconnect. The ethernet was Wireworld Series 7 (2 pair) with a. special hospital grade ethernet filter that I've ended up purchasing and using. The power is through the inexpensive Niagara 1000. The Niagara was plugged into my AQ outlet. I have 4 dedicated, same length wires running to their own breakers that are separately grounded using very very long copper rods into the ground. Square D are the basic breakers and box used. The runs are up to the loft (2nd level) and are about 15' in total length based on where the box is located as it's fairly high on the basement wall.

    We played for weeks with Odin vs all AQ. I didn't have any desire to used different companies cables/cords in the system. Odin was tipped up on the high end and it gave it a 'sense' of larger stage etc.., but in reality they were a bit bright (not as bright as some others). They just weren't balanced like the AQ wires are. They are outstanding wires, don't' get me wrong, but I am one of those who has always been bothered by wires that are tipped up on top. MANY are as it's a compromise that designers go with. I have the same issue with many speakers on the market too.

    We all have hot buttons with compromises. I also hate speakers/systems that aren't coherent from top to bottom. If a system is too bass heavy or mid centric or tipped up on top, I can't listen to it. I'm bored quickly or fatigued fairly quickly (1 hr at the most).

    I say all of this to qualify my thoughts. Over the course of time I had the wires in, there were many who listened at various times. Not once did the Nordost win out. Some of the speakers guys used who listened were Wilson, Magico, Focal,Revel, Rockport Lyra's, Vandersteen, Dynaudio, Avalon (Times), PSB, Paradigm, Meridian, B&W, Maggies, Pro Ac and a few more lesser known brands. Ears were all over the board and I believe most normally LOVE a tipped up treble and or 'pounding bass'.

    I did notice that up front many would chose the Nordost, but after the second time through of switching (not scientific, but it was blind so they didn't know what they were listening to) they all chose the AQ wires. When we looked at the results they all said that (we just used A loom or B loom to discuss) they realized that the AQ loom was more natural in presentation, sounded best on all music choices, was probably even more extended overall, but since it wasn't bright (nor was it warm), they wanted to listen longer and the piano, triangle and cymbals all sounded more realistic.

    They all liked the Odin a lot, so it's nothing against them. They just felt the AQ were much more realistic and gave more micro and macro detail. The noise floor was a lot lower with AQ and that's why they gave so much detail and why you could hear placement a bit better etc... Garth has just nailed things. I can't wait to hear what his new line of interconnects will sound like.

    When I met him (I got to hear the prototypes of the cords as well as his Niagara's (7000 and 1000) I was blown away. He's just such a passionate guy. He loves music as much as gear and he's very nice. Few are able to make technical talk understandable to the masses. He can do that. There are many in the industry who I like and also respect. I don't necessarily love or even like in some cases, their gear. We all hear differently. Mike sells and has sold so many wires over the years. He's by FAR the best adn most equipped on this board to properly answer. HE gets feedback from a wider range of customers.
    Hi Ctsooner.

    Which version of the Nordost Odin did you use in your testing? Odin1 or Odin2?

    Thanks


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    Re: AudioQuest Niagra and Storm Power Cable Review

    Hello all, I am also interested in Mike s opinion on the Silver Cloud vs Hurricane Source (to use on Halcro preamp in my case)
    I have been discussing the amazing Storm and Wind series with my friend Ctsooner for some time now (much obliged for your kind and elaborate replies again btw @ Ctsooner) and almost ready to make the jump
    I borrowed a Tornado Source and Tornado High current from a friend, I put the Tornado Hc on the powerbar feeding all the source components and pre, and the Tornado Source on the Halcro dm10 preamp. I am happy with the added resolution and dynamics, but when I substitute the Tornado Source with a Wireworld Silver Electra on the preamp, I notice the highs are more extended and sweeter, this is also noticable on female vocals... Resolution and dynamics go down some notches with the Silver Electra however...
    @Mike, which cable would you recommend to combine the strengths of both cables on the pre: resolution, dynamics and sweetness and extended silky highs? My friend Ct recommended the Hurricane Source over the Silver Cloud, for better top to bottom coherence... What is your take on this, given that the Silver Cloud seems like a poor men’s Firebird without the special construction and thicker concentric wires, yet still more expensive then a Hurricane Source? Any special magic (silver ) in that cord over the Hurricane Source?
    I would go Tornado HC on the power amps for budget reasons, but on the power socket bar feeding the sources and pre I could put a Hurricane hc and a Hurricane source on pre, or alternatively I was thinking a Tornado HC to feed the power socket bar and a Silver Cloud on the preamp...
    Thx for your advise!

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    Re: AudioQuest Niagra and Storm Power Cable Review

    Sorry, just saw this. never got an email saying there was a response. It was the Odin 2. They had just gotten them in and burned in. They also sell the AQ cables, but never stocked the high end ones as they like Transparent and Nordost more. After hearing my system, they started to sell more and more AQ cables and cords.
    System:
    Vandersteen Quatro CT
    Ayre AX5/20
    The Memory Player with built in DAC and headphone amp built in on order
    AQ Niagara 1000 power device
    Audioquest William Tell bi wire speaker cable
    Wireworld 8 optical cable into the Empirical Audio Synchro Mesh from the TV and Blueray to reclock
    Wireworld Platnium 8 ethernet cables into the EMO 70e ethernet filter into The Memory Player from Eero mesh router
    All routers, cable box and synchro mesh powered by the Wyred4sound LPS box with separate supplies for each
    Audioquest power outlets and four dedicated power lines in the room
    ZMF Ori headphones with the Audioarts 15' Pono balanced cable for the QX5/20
    Empire Ears Phantom CIEM's
    Rhapsodio 2.98 mk2 gold plated silver cable for Phantom

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