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    Re: Pass XA25

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    Are you using the pre-outs from the Luxman with the Pass?
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    Re: Pass XA25

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
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    Are you using the pre-outs from the Luxman with the Pass?
    Yes.

    I just lugged it home to try on the AG’s tonight (Joe made me do it).

    Will use my VAC preamp.


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    Re: Pass XA25



    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Yes.

    I just lugged it home to try on the AG’s tonight (Joe made me do it).

    Will use my VAC preamp.


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    Re: Pass XA25

    That ought to be a really good combo and luckily not like hauling the rest of the Pass amp lineup around.
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    Re: Pass XA25

    Very interested to hear your take!


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    Re: Pass XA25

    Initial thoughts...

    Needs a very efficient speaker.
    Very unsolid state sounding solid state.


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    Re: Pass XA25

    Like your AGs?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Initial thoughts...

    Needs a very efficient speaker.
    Very unsolid state sounding solid state.


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    Re: Pass XA25

    Quote Originally Posted by joeinid View Post
    Like your AGs?
    Precisely!


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    Re: Pass XA25

    Mike

    Didn't it work with the 30.2's? Or is that room two much for that combo.
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    Re: Pass XA25

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
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    Didn't it work with the 30.2's? Or is that room two much for that combo.
    The Harbeth’s need more juice. They work splendidly with the Luxman 509x (147 Watts/channel).



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    Interesting. I wonder what it would do with the Mojo S at 90 db and 4 ohms?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Interesting. I wonder what it would do with the Mojo S at 90 db and 4 ohms?
    In addition to Avantgarde, I think with something easy to drive like Tannoy, Verity, Focal, etc., it could be awesome.

    Would love to hear this amp on some Westminister GR’s.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Initial thoughts...

    Needs a very efficient speaker.
    Very unsolid state sounding solid state.


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    Is it anywhere close to a SET-like sound?

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    Re: Pass XA25

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJhgcr9427I


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    Re: Pass XA25

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYV0eoIIWkA


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    Re: Pass XA25

    Sarah sounds amazing!
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    A few more thoughts as I continue to listen...

    Very transparent. Vocals have an amazing life like clarity and focus, coupled with the quiet background.

    The amp is never “shouty” or aggressive. It’s very subdued and sweet.

    If it smooths out a little on top with break in, this could be a superb SS amp for Avantgarde fans.

    It runs hot.
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    Re: Pass XA25

    Most of the reviews alluded to many hundred hours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Most of the reviews alluded to many hundred hours.
    Yes, that’s what I’m figuring to based on other Pass amps. But so far, pretty sweet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    A few more thoughts as I continue to listen...

    Very transparent. Vocals have an amazing life like clarity and focus, coupled with the quiet background.

    The amp is never “shouty” or aggressive. It’s very subdued and sweet.

    If it smooths out a little on top with break in, this could be a superb SS amp for Avantgarde fans.

    It runs hot.
    Interesting, since I struggled so hard to get my FW J2 to play nice with my Uno's. Of course I didn't have a tubed pre, but the XP30 shouldn't have been the weak link in that chain...

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    Re: Pass XA25

    Back to the store where it can run for a while?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Back to the store where it can run for a while?
    Yes. Tomorrow I’ll hook it back to the Luxman and let ‘er run.

    But I will bring it back for another listen at home after 300 hours or so.


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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAI2zHjahbs


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    Re: Pass XA25

    Reichert’s review said the synergy between the X25 and Quad ESL’s was incredible. Would the FWJ2 drive the Quad’s similarly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RDSChicago View Post
    Reichert’s review said the synergy between the X25 and Quad ESL’s was incredible. Would the FWJ2 drive the Quad’s similarly?
    I could see the XA25 being terrific with Quad’s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RDSChicago View Post
    Reichert’s review said the synergy between the X25 and Quad ESL’s was incredible. Would the FWJ2 drive the Quad’s similarly?
    The weird thing about the J2 is that power drops to 13w when impedance goes to 4. The Quads are 8 ohms nominal but range from 4-15. Do you have Quads? Would you like to try my J2?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pdub View Post
    The weird thing about the J2 is that power drops to 13w when impedance goes to 4. The Quads are 8 ohms nominal but range from 4-15. Do you have Quads? Would you like to try my J2?
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    I have Quad 57’s. Kind of you to offer to lend your J2,but I have this amp also. I just haven’t had the gumption to move it from my Linkwitz Orion setup to the room where the Quads are located.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RDSChicago View Post
    I have Quad 57’s. Kind of you to offer to lend your J2,but I have this amp also. I just haven’t had the gumption to move it from my Linkwitz Orion setup to the room where the Quads are located.
    Mine's been holding up dust for several months now. Maybe I ought to look into Quads...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pdub View Post
    Mine's been holding up dust for several months now. Maybe I ought to look into Quads...
    I don’t want to hijack the thread but the Quads are the most enjoyable speaker I’ve had. I started a thread here several months back singing their praise

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    Mike, you should try the amp with your M3s don't you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    A few more thoughts as I continue to listen...

    Very transparent. Vocals have an amazing life like clarity and focus, coupled with the quiet background.

    The amp is never “shouty” or aggressive. It’s very subdued and sweet.

    If it smooths out a little on top with break in, this could be a superb SS amp for Avantgarde fans.

    It runs hot.
    Mike it would be an interesting comparison with the XA 30.8
    As if you need to lug more heavy gear upstairs!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Audio 1 View Post
    Mike it would be an interesting comparison with the XA 30.8
    As if you need to lug more heavy gear upstairs!
    I’ve tried the XA30.8 and 30.5 on my AG’s, to be honest, the XA25 is a much better sounding amp, so sweet and “tube like” and grain free. If you can live without the extra power (which I know you can), it’s clearly a winner for me. As I said to Joe last night “it’s the least solid state sounding solid state amp I’ve heard on my AG’s”. Downside is RCA inputs only.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    I’ve tried the XA30.8 and 30.5 on my AG’s, to be honest, the XA25 is a much better sounding amp, so sweet and “tube like” and grain free. If you can live without the extra power (which I know you can), it’s clearly a winner for me. As I said to Joe last night “it’s the least solid state sounding solid state amp I’ve heard on my AG’s”. Downside is RCA inputs only.


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    But...the reviews and hype I'm hearing, is staggering. "Better" than a 30.8; "better", than a pair of 60s!?
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    I'm breaking in an XA25 for my brother. He's picking it up this weekend. I absolutely love it. More than enough power for me. First few days it was a little ragged and aggressive, but now after about a week, it's a beautiful sounding amp.
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    Re: Pass XA25

    I was thinking of X250.8 or INT-250 until I saw this XA25. Does XA25 have enough power for Revel Studio 2? I have a small room and I don't listen too loud.
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    Hi Jim,

    I had no issues running the XA25 with my studio2 when I had them. It’s an awesome combo that I absolutely loved. As long as you are not playing big orchestral music or head banging rock, you should be fine.

    Please remember that the amp takes a fairly long time for full break in. It sounds great once warmed up but after several hundred hours or more, it’s incredible.

    Power on hand could be close to 50+ watts. I never ran out of steam when I was listening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Q3Di View Post
    I was thinking of X250.8 or INT-250 until I saw this XA25. Does XA25 have enough power for Revel Studio 2? I have a small room and I don't listen too loud.
    Welcome and I would say no.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Welcome and I would say no.


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    I could easily go back to that combo with nice tube preamp, IMO.
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    I have used INT-150 with Studio 2. I am planning to pair CJ ET5 with the XA25.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Q3Di View Post
    I have used INT-150 with Studio 2. I am planning to pair CJ ET5 with the XA25.
    That will be AWESOME! The sound combo that I love.
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    I'm thinking about purchasing a XA25 to drive my Tannoy Kensington GRs. But I haven't had any ideas of which pre-amp to match the XA25. Would Benchmark LA4 a good choice? dCS Bartok is also in my radar but it is limited to digital stuff only. My brother had a Topping DX7 Pro and he said it could be used as a digital Pre-Amp but not sure about the quality.

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    I love tube preamps with solid state amps. I've tried an XA25 and it's sort of neutral. I think a tube pre will give it that needed (for my taste) little extra bloom and sweetness.
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    I've had my eye on the Supratek Chardonnay lately and as it's based on the 6SN7 tube it should give that tube bloom to the XA-25 you would be looking for.
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    Hi Jack,

    I traded in the XA25 for the SIT3. I absolutely LOVE, LOVE, LOVE the SIT3.

    The Supratek looks awesome though. Thanks!

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    Joe

    I've had my eye on the Supratek Chardonnay lately and as it's based on the 6SN7 tube it should give that tube bloom to the XA-25 you would be looking for.
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    I think we both already have our share of preamps as it is but it my be something for aRui to look into as it has adjustable gain making it versatile enough to keep around for years. Don't know why it caught my eye other than I kind of miss that warmer 6SN7 sound I got from the Modwright that the other two tube preamps don't have.
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    It seriously looks great. I wish I had seen that a while ago but I think you are right about that for aRui. That 6SN7 based pre and the XA25 will be superb.


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    Joe

    I think we both already have our share of preamps as it is but it my be something for aRui to look into as it has adjustable gain making it versatile enough to keep around for years. Don't know why it caught my eye other than I kind of miss that warmer 6SN7 sound I got from the Modwright that the other two tube preamps don't have.
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    Re: Pass XA25

    You're right about that. Mick's preamps are real lookers and very rarely ever turn up on the used market unless someone is moving farther up the line and that tops out at only $7500. The basic Chardonnay would be enough for me. Still deciding though whether or not to swap out some of the separates or just move up to a higher level integrated, Hybrid design preferred, and be done.
    Main - JVC QL-Y7/Denon DL-301 Mk II, Gold Note PH-10, Jays CDT3 Mk3 , Auralic Aries G2.2, Holo May KTE, Supratek Cabernet, Kinki Studio EX-B7 monoblocks, Verity Audio Otello, (2) Rythmik F12SE, Audio Envy IC, SC & PC's, Triode Wire Lab PC's, Inakustik USB and I2S, (2) Puritan Audio Labs PSM-156 with Groundmaster City, Timbernation rack

    Family Room - Oppo UDP-203, Auralic Aries, Aqua La Voce S3, Kinki Studio EX-M1+, Nola KO, (2) Rythmik F-12G, Wireworld SC & IC's, Neotech PC's, SurgeX SA-1810

    Greenville, SC- Jays CDT2 Mk 3, Auralic Aries G1, Holo Spring 3 KTE, Supratek Chardonnay, Odyssey Audio Kismet Reference, Rosso Fiorentino Volterra 2, (2) RSL Speedwoofers, iFi Audio Power Station, Wireworld IC's, Inakustik USB and I2s, Triode Wire Lab SC, Triode Wire Lab PC's, Furutech NCF Clear Line, Timbernation rack.

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    Re: Pass XA25

    Quote Originally Posted by joeinid View Post
    Hi Jack,

    I traded in the XA25 for the SIT3. I absolutely LOVE, LOVE, LOVE the SIT3.

    The Supratek looks awesome though. Thanks!
    Can I ask why did you trade the XA25 for the SIT3?

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    Re: Pass XA25

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    You're right about that. Mick's preamps are real lookers and very rarely ever turn up on the used market unless someone is moving farther up the line and that tops out at only $7500. The basic Chardonnay would be enough for me. Still deciding though whether or not to swap out some of the separates or just move up to a higher level integrated, Hybrid design preferred, and be done.
    I also consider the new McIntosh MA352 which would be available to audition next month in my country, not sure about the quality but it is the Hybrid design you talked about.

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