Magnepan 30.7

[mauidan]

Magnepan announced it today on their Facebook group. According to Eric Noorgarden, "There will be a new planar speaker in town, very soon. It's called the Magnepan 30.7 and it will be available in early 2018. For now, here's a photo. An official description along with accompanying reviews will take place later this month and throughout the remainder of 2017. Think of the 30.7 as a mix of the 20.7 and the Tympani series. A bit like a Tympani "unhinged." The massive bass panel is the same size as the entire 20.7 panel. The tweeter and midrange are on the smaller panel. More details, including pricing and specifications are forthcoming.

[Alpinist]

Magnepan announced it today on their Facebook group. According to Eric Noorgarden, "There will be a new planar speaker in town, very soon. It's called the Magnepan 30.7 and it will be available in early 2018. For now, here's a photo. An official description along with accompanying reviews will take place later this month and throughout the remainder of 2017. Think of the 30.7 as a mix of the 20.7 and the Tympani series. A bit like a Tympani "unhinged." The massive bass panel is the same size as the entire 20.7 panel. The tweeter and midrange are on the smaller panel. More details, including pricing and specifications are forthcoming.

If you have the necessary room size and amplifier power to drive them, the 20.7 is one the best sounding speakers out there and is one of the greatest values in high-end audio. The 30.7 looks to take it even further with its massive bass panel and separate midrange/tweeter panel. I would also expect an improved and external crossover network with bi-amping capability. I wonder what the price will be?

Ken

[Dafos]

I would guess not lower than 25k but no more than 30k. Still damned good value at that level

[Ritmo]

http://www.theabsolutesound.com/arti...aker-part-one/

[joeinid]

I bet with the right amps, these 30.7 will be outstanding.

[Ritmo]

I'm certainly looking forward to a listening experience. Wonder if bi-amplification will be possible...

[Rayooo]

I would guess not lower than 25k but no more than 30k. Still damned good value at that level

For me it'd be the cost of the speakers plus the construction costs... knocking down a couple walls etc. to fit'em inside. Maybe I could convert my garage to a listening room?

[joeinid]

We just found your next upgrade


Uh oh!

For me it'd be the cost of the speakers plus the construction costs... knocking down a couple walls etc. to fit'em inside. Maybe I could convert my garage to a listening room?

[watts]

I'm certainly looking forward to a listening experience. Wonder if bi-amplification will be possible...

It will probably be recommended. Tri-amplification suggested possibly...

[watts]

For me it'd be the cost of the speakers plus the construction costs... knocking down a couple walls etc. to fit'em inside. Maybe I could convert my garage to a listening room?

The colour suggests they be in a garage...

[Barry]

Would like to hear them and hope dealers do a good job setting them up right.

I own a pair of T-1Ds, but haven't listened to them in years (use heavily modified 3.6 w/ subs). The problem with the big panels is you end up with an unnatural "wall of sound" for the soundstage if your room isn't wide enough.

[mauidan]

It will probably be recommended. Tri-amplification suggested possibly...

"Magnepan is also using a first order crossover throughout the loudspeaker, which means that it doesn’t require an outboard crossover because the number of capacitors and coils is way down."

[Rayooo]

We just found your next upgrade


Uh oh!

Oh heavens no! well at least not for a little while anyway.

[nicoff]

I'm certainly looking forward to a listening experience. Wonder if bi-amplification will be possible...

Me too! The Tympani’s and the 20.1 could be bi-amplified but the new 20.7 cannot.

[Mike]

According to my sources, no bi-wire.

[watts]

"Magnepan is also using a first order crossover throughout the loudspeaker, which means that it doesn’t require an outboard crossover because the number of capacitors and coils is way down."

Well then; probably need some pretty expensive monster mono-blocks to make all those panels sing

[mauidan]

Well then; probably need some pretty expensive monster mono-blocks to make all those panels sing

From the Magnepan website:

"There is a persistent impression that the larger Maggies require more power. It is true that most customers with the more expensive models have more powerful amplifiers. But, the popular assumption is not correct. They typically have a larger budget. If and when you upgrade your electronics is a separate decision."

I owned T-1Ds biamp'd with an external passive Xover, ARC D-79B and D110B.



The 30.7s are definitely on my radar screen.

[watts]

Well, they certainly wouldn't print in the manuals that several hundred watts are required and discourage many potential customers. It depends what type of music is listened to and the volume preference of the listener. I do know from experience the difference between 150 wpc and 300 wpc with Mcintosh power and it was not a huge difference but definitely noticeable. Even running them with the meters at 5 watts you can hear the more relaxed sound the extra current reserves provides. But I am sure there are many customers out there running a mid-fi 100 wpc into their 3 series and enjoying it immensely unaware of what an extra 100 watts would do.

Do you have the space for these beasts?

[mauidan]

Well, they certainly wouldn't print in the manuals that several hundred watts are required and discourage many potential customers. It depends what type of music is listened to and the volume preference of the listener. I do know from experience the difference between 150 wpc and 300 wpc with Mcintosh power and it was not a huge difference but definitely noticeable. Even running them with the meters at 5 watts you can hear the more relaxed sound the extra current reserves provides. But I am sure there are many customers out there running a mid-fi 100 wpc into their 3 series and enjoying it immensely unaware of what an extra 100 watts would do.

Do you have the space for these beasts?

I think I can made them work in my existing listening room, if not, I think they're going to be good enough to justify building a bigger room.

[Mike]

I've owned 5 pairs of Maggie's. I can only imagine how 30.7's would sound. Wow.


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[the professor]

I'm excited to hear them.

[watts]

I think I can made them work in my existing listening room, if not, I think they're going to be good enough to justify building a bigger room.

Ohhh... sounds like you need a major challenge/project We are dying to be witness to the process.

[watts]

I've owned 5 pairs of Maggie's. I can only imagine how 30.7's would sound. Wow.


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And you don't sell them?

[a.wayne]

For me it'd be the cost of the speakers plus the construction costs... knocking down a couple walls etc. to fit'em inside. Maybe I could convert my garage to a listening room?

Actually the bass panels will prolly be best behind the mains so not really necessarily any more width
will be needed..



regards ..

[Rayooo]

Actually the bass panels will prolly be best behind the mains so not really necessarily any more width
will be needed..



regards ..

you're not helping...

I'll definitely be wanting to have a look see at these 30.7s... The 20.7s are and remain simply amazing for me. But I'm the one who said he'd never replace the ART Monos.

[limniscate]

I hope this means more 20.7's will hit the used market.

[annapolis Raider]

Long time Maggie fan here. I've owned hmmm, only 4 different ones over the years starting with T-4s. Couple of thoughts, absolutely no advantage to biwire with 6 db crossover slopes. There is a myth out there that bigger Maggies REQUIRE more power, my experience would say the opposite. And Finally, with separate unhinged panels, the 30.7 will be much easier to place and work in more rooms than single panels like the 20.7.

I'm 99% on picking up a pair of 30.7s, I have what should be a perfect amp partner sitting collecting dust, the mighty Gryphon Diablo 300.

From what I'm hearing will be early next year before we can get this show on the road........

[watts]

I'm 99% on picking up a pair of 30.7s, I have what should be a perfect amp partner sitting collecting dust, the mighty Gryphon Diablo 300.

.....

Yeah, that should be enough

[Alpinist]

I'm excited to hear the 30.7. I've always been a big fan of the 20.7. I would imagine that Overture will have a pair in one of their listening rooms.

Ken

[Paul]

And you don't sell them?

Eventually, he will

[mauidan]

Some more info:

http://www.theaudiobeat.com/visits/magnepan_30_7.htm

[nicoff]

I wonder if the tweeter and midrange are the same size as the current 20.7.
If so, then I wonder if a 20.7 plus a couple of subs would be equivalent.

[Dre_J]

I wonder if the tweeter and midrange are the same size as the current 20.7.
If so, then I wonder if a 20.7 plus a couple of subs would be equivalent.

I believe there are differences.

I've ran the 20.7's in my home with and without subs. I've listened to the new 30.7 in a familiar system that I setup the analog front-end in. They are not the same and a pair of subs on the 20.7 will not equal the 30.7.

The 30.7 is a good ways ahead of the 20.7 (not a bad speaker in its own right) across the frequency spectrum.

Dre

[mauidan]

TAS Part 2:

http://www.theabsolutesound.com/arti...peaker-part-2/

[watts]

TAS Part 2:

http://www.theabsolutesound.com/arti...peaker-part-2/

Wow; 35 x 17 x 12 foot room... makes my 2 channel room look like a shoe box...

Double wow; that was a woman reviewing? Cool!

[Alpinist]

Wow; 35 x 17 x 12 foot room... makes my 2 channel room look like a shoe box...

Double wow; that was a woman reviewing? Cool!

A home concert hall!

Even better than the 20.7’s? The 30.7’s are the only speakers I lust for beyond the ones I already own.

Ken

[Ritmo]

While $30K is not little money, in HE audio, this price is somewhat modest. If the 30.7s are as good as the initial impressions indicate, Magnepan will sell a lot of them. Just need the big room and powerful amp.

Can't wait to hear them!

[mauidan]

While $30K is not little money, in HE audio, this price is somewhat modest. If the 30.7s are as good as the initial impressions indicate, Magnepan will sell a lot of them. Just need the big room and powerful amp.

Can't wait to hear them!

I don't know about the "big room," TAS's HP had his IRS/T-1D system in this room:

[Ritmo]

Even better if they worked in a room that small.

[nicoff]

Will Magnepan be demonstrating the 30.7 at the Expona show in Chicago in April?

[nicoff]

Just read that the 30.7 was a no show at Axpona. Disappointed that Magnepan did not bother to use that venue to exhibit this model. And I understand that this is not even in production. Is the 30.7 a real product or is Magnepan trying to gauge interest before they decide to manufacture?

[kzhtoo]

Were you at the show?

[nicoff]

Were you at the show?

I was not at the show. Someone else who attended the show wrote the following in another thread:

"Magnepan has the 3.7’s on display. I asked about the 30.7’s and they said the hotel room was too small even for the 3.7’s. They would have needed a much larger space, like a small ballroom or something, to demo the 30.7’s"

[Mechnutt]

I was not at the show. Someone else who attended the show wrote the following in another thread:

"Magnepan has the 3.7’s on display. I asked about the 30.7’s and they said the hotel room was too small even for the 3.7’s. They would have needed a much larger space, like a small ballroom or something, to demo the 30.7’s"

I would have to agree with Magnepan on this one, that the rooms are too small so why bother. They need room to breath. 3 years ago I was at Axpona and heard the Martin Logan Monoliths in a small room and they sounded awful, worst sounding room of the show.

Maggies need to be pulled out into the room a few feet from the back wall to sound their best and the 30.7's are huge and need a large room.

I have the 1.6's and my room is 17x17 with 10' ceilings and even it is too small to get the best out of them. I was going to buy the 3.6's but thought my room was too small. Probably should have bought them anyway.

[nicoff]

I would have to agree with Magnepan on this one, that the rooms are too small so why bother. They need room to breath. 3 years ago I was at Axpona and heard the Martin Logan Monoliths in a small room and they sounded awful, worst sounding room of the show.

Maggies need to be pulled out into the room a few feet from the back wall to sound their best and the 30.7's are huge and need a large room.

I have the 1.6's and my room is 17x17 with 10' ceilings and even it is too small to get the best out of them. I was going to buy the 3.6's but thought my room was too small. Probably should have bought them anyway.

A few observations: I went to Axpona last year. The 2017 event was held in the same hotel from 3 years ago (when you attended). There were quite a few HUGE rooms on the bottom floor (the MBL, KEF and Bang-Olufsen rooms for example). Any of those rooms would have fit the 30.7 just fine. Also (unlike your experience) the Martin Logan Neolith were being shown in another very large room located on one of the top floors. The big Sonus Farbers were in another very good size room. In other words, there were quite a few large rooms in the old hotel.

This year the event was moved to a larger and newer hotel. I saw many pictures of this year's event and read comments from attendees to the show. From the pictures and comments it seems clear that the new hotel is bigger and the rooms are better than years past.

Magnepan is going around the country demoing the 30.7. From pictures I can see that they are using dealers demo rooms that are smaller than any of the big Axpona 2017 rooms that I mentioned above. So, in my humble opinion, it looks as if someone at Magnepan dropped the ball in failing to book a large room for this event.

[Mechnutt]

A few observations: I went to Axpona last year. The 2017 event was held in the same hotel from 3 years ago (when you attended). There were quite a few HUGE rooms on the bottom floor (the MBL, KEF and Bang-Olufsen rooms for example). Any of those rooms would have fit the 30.1 just fine. Also (unlike your experience) the Martin Logan Neolith were being shown in another very large room located on one of the top floors. The big Sonus Farbers were in another very good size room. In other words, there were quite a few large rooms in the old hotel.

This year the event was moved to a larger and newer hotel. I saw many pictures of this year's event and read comments from attendees to the show. From the pictures and comments it seems clear that the new hotel is bigger and the rooms are better than years past.

Magnepan is going around the country demoing the 30.1. From pictures I can see that they are using dealers demo rooms that are smaller than any of the big Axpona 2017 rooms that I mentioned above. So, in my humble opinion, it looks as if someone at Magnepan dropped the ball in failing to book a large room for this event.

Glad to see that ML had the Neoliths in a proper room because they were paired with Mac gear in a small room at the end of a hall the year I saw them. Magnepan may have not been able to book one of the larger rooms. I suspect that you have to do that way in advance and maybe they were not sure of the release of the 30.1's.

[baddog]

Just read that the 30.7 was a no show at Axpona. Disappointed that Magnepan did not bother to use that venue to exhibit this model. And I understand that this is not even in production. Is the 30.7 a real product or is Magnepan trying to gauge interest before they decide to manufacture?

Are you interested in purchasing the 30.7s? What do you currently have in your system if you don't mind me asking?

[limniscate]

Wendell doesn't believe in showing flagship speakers at shows.

[nile49]

I agree, I would have loved to see an Audio Research - Magnepan pairing in one of the big lobby level rooms. Not sure if it has been mentioned but if you are interested I believe Magnepan is quite accommodating of people visiting their factory to audition flagship products.


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[limniscate]

I agree, I would have loved to see an Audio Research - Magnepan pairing in one of the big lobby level rooms. Not sure if it has been mentioned but if you are interested I believe Magnepan is quite accommodating of people visiting their factory to audition flagship products.


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Unfortunately, this isn't possible either according to Wendell. You may be able to hear the 20.7 at Audio Research.