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September 14, 2017, 02:45 PM #1
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MIT at my house!
Earlier this month Mike came by the house with a *big* box of goodies for me to try out in the system - his own set of MIT cables, or more properly interfaces. This included the MI-2C3D Level 1 Speaker interfaces, MI-2C3D Level 1 XLR Interconnects, SL Matrix USB, and Oracle MA-X Digital Balanced Interconnect (AES/EBU). This replaced my Acoustic Zen Hologram 2 speaker cables, Matrix Reference II Interconnects, and WireWorld Platinum AES/EBU and Starlight USB cables.
At first listen, it was clear that there was a big difference with the MIT loom. We listened for a couple of hours and Mike was uncharacteristically quiet, not talking at all during any of the songs we played and hardly saying a word between tracks. As is often the case with major system changes, first impressions are hard to describe - you get a sense of what you hear but you haven't processed it yet.
Fast forward a couple of days - the sound continued to improve as the cables settled in but there was a very slight edge in the highs. I told Mike about it, we did some investigating and found that the interconnects running to the amps were set to medium impedance but the XS 300 amps have high impedance. I made the switch on both interfaces.
Bam! The slight edge was gone. Once settled in at the proper settings the sound was perfect!
So how do they sound?
First, there's a ton more detail - it's been a while since I've noticed "something I never heard before" on my system but now I get it all the time. And everyone who's heard them says the same thing. Breathing, tapping, fingering, audience noise - much more highly resolved.
Second, the background is quieter - but not in the sense that you see it as "blacker" - blacker would call attention to itself. It's more like there just isn't any background noise anymore, which makes quiet passages stand out more and sudden notes all the more striking.
Finally, it's like the pre-amp suddenly has several new control knobs on it: Texture, Tonal Richness, and Holography... and they're all dialed up to 8 or 9. Those knobs weren't there before, but if they were they would have only been set to 1 or 2 in comparison).
Texture and richness speak for the themselves - they're not squishy terms like "organic" or "musical". Holography... well, if my system was like a High Definition OLED TV before now it's like the Holodeck on the Enterprise (Next Generation). It seems almost that real. And everything is affected equally - male and female vocals, percussion, strings, horns, guitars, and OMG piano!
It's startling at times - the sounds are so real and they come out of nowhere in a sound field that fills the whole space in front of you and doesn't seem to have any relationship with the speakers or equipment in the room. Decay goes on forever. It doesn't sound like reproduced music - just music. And opening your eyes doesn't break the illusion at all.
I could go on but I think you get the idea - these MIT interfaces are not leaving my system (sorry Mike).Howard
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September 14, 2017, 06:54 PM #2
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Howard, I am having the same experience with another brand of cable. It is hard to believe that cables that are purported to be responsible for maybe 3-5% of the sound (if that) can make such a dramatic difference.
Cables from my understanding don't really add anything but "do no harm to the signal". When you get ahold of a brand such as yours it can be bliss. Congratulations.Le Roy
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September 14, 2017, 07:42 PM #3
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What you are both describing is the difference between audio cables and an audio interface. This is what you get with MIT, Ansuz DTC and Transparent. And yes, the interface makes a major difference in sound quality IMHO. These brands have come a long way since they were first introduced. Definitely not your father's MIT!
Ken"No summit worth climbing is easily attained."
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Source: MSB Select II DAC with Two Mono Powerbases and Femto 33 Clock; Renderer V2 Digital Input Module and Roon Nucleus Plus; MSB UMT V Signature Transport
Amps: Vandersteen M7-HPA Mono Amps; MSB M204 Mono Amps
Speakers: Vandersteen Model 7 Mk2
Power: Two AudioQuest Niagara 5000’s with AudioQuest Dragon and Hurricane Power Cords
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September 14, 2017, 08:00 PM #4
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Thanks for sharing, Sandman. I'm awaiting EVO level 1 speaker cables. Already thinking EVO level 1 XLR.
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September 15, 2017, 09:36 AM #5
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“Life’s too short to listen to bad audio.”
Big rig: Brinkmann Taurus DD TT + 12.1 arm + Lyra Etna Lambda SL MC + HRS M3X2/ Cardas Clear Beyond phono/ Stillpoints LPI/ Brinkmann Edison mk2 phono + RöNT II Tube PS/ Synology NAS with Roon + HD Plex linear PSU + Shunyata HD/ AQ Vodka RJ45 + Aqvox Network Switch SE + AQ Diamond RJ45 into DAC/ Brinkmann Nyquist mk2/ Audionet Humboldt/ Cardas Clear Beyond ICs/ Kharma DB9-S 1.1 LS/ Inakustik Reference LS 4004 AIR/ Audioquest Niagara 5000/ Shunyata Alpha power (HC, Analogue, Digital)/ Finite Elemente Pagode Rack/ Stillpoints Ultra SS/ Vicoustic panels + Stillpoints Aperture II.
Small rig: Naim UnitiServe/ Curious USB/ Tidal/ Linn Klimax DS3/ Shunyata Power cable/ Pass Labs INT-60/ Acoustic Zen Silver Reference II/ HiD Diamond 8/ Harbeth 30.2 40th Anniversary/ Shunyata Venom EU7 & Venom 3 HD.
HP rig: MacBookAir/ Tidal/ Auralic Gemini 2000/ Sbooster LPSU/ Audeze LCD-2 Classic + WyWires Red/ Shunyata HD/ Shunyata Hydra 2/ Shunyata Venom.
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September 15, 2017, 09:37 AM #6
MIT at my house!
“Life’s too short to listen to bad audio.”
Big rig: Brinkmann Taurus DD TT + 12.1 arm + Lyra Etna Lambda SL MC + HRS M3X2/ Cardas Clear Beyond phono/ Stillpoints LPI/ Brinkmann Edison mk2 phono + RöNT II Tube PS/ Synology NAS with Roon + HD Plex linear PSU + Shunyata HD/ AQ Vodka RJ45 + Aqvox Network Switch SE + AQ Diamond RJ45 into DAC/ Brinkmann Nyquist mk2/ Audionet Humboldt/ Cardas Clear Beyond ICs/ Kharma DB9-S 1.1 LS/ Inakustik Reference LS 4004 AIR/ Audioquest Niagara 5000/ Shunyata Alpha power (HC, Analogue, Digital)/ Finite Elemente Pagode Rack/ Stillpoints Ultra SS/ Vicoustic panels + Stillpoints Aperture II.
Small rig: Naim UnitiServe/ Curious USB/ Tidal/ Linn Klimax DS3/ Shunyata Power cable/ Pass Labs INT-60/ Acoustic Zen Silver Reference II/ HiD Diamond 8/ Harbeth 30.2 40th Anniversary/ Shunyata Venom EU7 & Venom 3 HD.
HP rig: MacBookAir/ Tidal/ Auralic Gemini 2000/ Sbooster LPSU/ Audeze LCD-2 Classic + WyWires Red/ Shunyata HD/ Shunyata Hydra 2/ Shunyata Venom.
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September 15, 2017, 09:48 AM #7
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My Vandersteen M7-HPA mono amps came with proprietary single-ended fixed length speaker cables produced for Vandersteen by AudioQuest. They use solid 100% perfect surface silver (PSS) conductors and AQ's dielectric bias system (DBS), which was designed by Richard Vandersteen. My interconnects are AQ Wild Blue Yonder, which are also 100% PSS and DBS. Richard uses AQ cable in all his speakers.
Best,
Ken"No summit worth climbing is easily attained."
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Source: MSB Select II DAC with Two Mono Powerbases and Femto 33 Clock; Renderer V2 Digital Input Module and Roon Nucleus Plus; MSB UMT V Signature Transport
Amps: Vandersteen M7-HPA Mono Amps; MSB M204 Mono Amps
Speakers: Vandersteen Model 7 Mk2
Power: Two AudioQuest Niagara 5000’s with AudioQuest Dragon and Hurricane Power Cords
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September 15, 2017, 09:52 AM #8
MIT at my house!
“Life’s too short to listen to bad audio.”
Big rig: Brinkmann Taurus DD TT + 12.1 arm + Lyra Etna Lambda SL MC + HRS M3X2/ Cardas Clear Beyond phono/ Stillpoints LPI/ Brinkmann Edison mk2 phono + RöNT II Tube PS/ Synology NAS with Roon + HD Plex linear PSU + Shunyata HD/ AQ Vodka RJ45 + Aqvox Network Switch SE + AQ Diamond RJ45 into DAC/ Brinkmann Nyquist mk2/ Audionet Humboldt/ Cardas Clear Beyond ICs/ Kharma DB9-S 1.1 LS/ Inakustik Reference LS 4004 AIR/ Audioquest Niagara 5000/ Shunyata Alpha power (HC, Analogue, Digital)/ Finite Elemente Pagode Rack/ Stillpoints Ultra SS/ Vicoustic panels + Stillpoints Aperture II.
Small rig: Naim UnitiServe/ Curious USB/ Tidal/ Linn Klimax DS3/ Shunyata Power cable/ Pass Labs INT-60/ Acoustic Zen Silver Reference II/ HiD Diamond 8/ Harbeth 30.2 40th Anniversary/ Shunyata Venom EU7 & Venom 3 HD.
HP rig: MacBookAir/ Tidal/ Auralic Gemini 2000/ Sbooster LPSU/ Audeze LCD-2 Classic + WyWires Red/ Shunyata HD/ Shunyata Hydra 2/ Shunyata Venom.
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September 15, 2017, 11:57 AM #9
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September 15, 2017, 01:46 PM #10
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I think what I am hearing at home right now is very good - I am using WyWires Platinum full loom, which I quite like.
If anything, I guess the MIT setup might have been more open, but it is very hard to say whether that was due to the mk2 version of speakers or because of the cables.
But I will be very interested to hear about your experiences, as you have only one factor changing in the setup.
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk“Life’s too short to listen to bad audio.”
Big rig: Brinkmann Taurus DD TT + 12.1 arm + Lyra Etna Lambda SL MC + HRS M3X2/ Cardas Clear Beyond phono/ Stillpoints LPI/ Brinkmann Edison mk2 phono + RöNT II Tube PS/ Synology NAS with Roon + HD Plex linear PSU + Shunyata HD/ AQ Vodka RJ45 + Aqvox Network Switch SE + AQ Diamond RJ45 into DAC/ Brinkmann Nyquist mk2/ Audionet Humboldt/ Cardas Clear Beyond ICs/ Kharma DB9-S 1.1 LS/ Inakustik Reference LS 4004 AIR/ Audioquest Niagara 5000/ Shunyata Alpha power (HC, Analogue, Digital)/ Finite Elemente Pagode Rack/ Stillpoints Ultra SS/ Vicoustic panels + Stillpoints Aperture II.
Small rig: Naim UnitiServe/ Curious USB/ Tidal/ Linn Klimax DS3/ Shunyata Power cable/ Pass Labs INT-60/ Acoustic Zen Silver Reference II/ HiD Diamond 8/ Harbeth 30.2 40th Anniversary/ Shunyata Venom EU7 & Venom 3 HD.
HP rig: MacBookAir/ Tidal/ Auralic Gemini 2000/ Sbooster LPSU/ Audeze LCD-2 Classic + WyWires Red/ Shunyata HD/ Shunyata Hydra 2/ Shunyata Venom.
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September 16, 2017, 11:06 PM #11
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September 27, 2017, 07:28 AM #12
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September 27, 2017, 08:32 AM #13
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September 27, 2017, 11:13 PM #14
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September 28, 2017, 01:20 AM #15
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“Life’s too short to listen to bad audio.”
Big rig: Brinkmann Taurus DD TT + 12.1 arm + Lyra Etna Lambda SL MC + HRS M3X2/ Cardas Clear Beyond phono/ Stillpoints LPI/ Brinkmann Edison mk2 phono + RöNT II Tube PS/ Synology NAS with Roon + HD Plex linear PSU + Shunyata HD/ AQ Vodka RJ45 + Aqvox Network Switch SE + AQ Diamond RJ45 into DAC/ Brinkmann Nyquist mk2/ Audionet Humboldt/ Cardas Clear Beyond ICs/ Kharma DB9-S 1.1 LS/ Inakustik Reference LS 4004 AIR/ Audioquest Niagara 5000/ Shunyata Alpha power (HC, Analogue, Digital)/ Finite Elemente Pagode Rack/ Stillpoints Ultra SS/ Vicoustic panels + Stillpoints Aperture II.
Small rig: Naim UnitiServe/ Curious USB/ Tidal/ Linn Klimax DS3/ Shunyata Power cable/ Pass Labs INT-60/ Acoustic Zen Silver Reference II/ HiD Diamond 8/ Harbeth 30.2 40th Anniversary/ Shunyata Venom EU7 & Venom 3 HD.
HP rig: MacBookAir/ Tidal/ Auralic Gemini 2000/ Sbooster LPSU/ Audeze LCD-2 Classic + WyWires Red/ Shunyata HD/ Shunyata Hydra 2/ Shunyata Venom.
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September 28, 2017, 01:54 AM #16
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This is a 12 volt LPS....is that sufficient ?....I thought one needed something like 19/20 volts, especially if doing DSP, etc.
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