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    Re: LA Audio Show - pics and thoughts

    Quote Originally Posted by Kuoppis View Post
    Thank you for the update.

    Would be nice to get a view based on music that allows to distinguish some audiophile characteristics.


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    Magico room was somewhat busy today....Will see if I can spend some time tomorrow and if they are willing to play some of my music.

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    Re: LA Audio Show - pics and thoughts

    Quote Originally Posted by Ritmo View Post
    Thoughts on the YG with ARC and D'Agostino?

    I've only heard them with Audionet or MSB. Preferred the MSB - YG combo.
    YG / MSB combo sounded the best of all the YG rooms. I was surprised that the Audionet room was a meh...

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    Re: LA Audio Show - pics and thoughts

    Quote Originally Posted by PureVinyl View Post
    anyone heard the Tekton Double Impact Speakers in Room 533
    I was planning it today but somehow when I arrived at 533, the room was locked. I will try tomorrow if I get a chance.

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    Re: LA Audio Show - pics and thoughts

    One interesting observation - a ton of rooms in this show are using the Audioquest Niagara 7000. Did anybody notice it in other shows as well ?

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    Re: LA Audio Show - pics and thoughts

    Thanks for the pictures and comments. Looks like it's been a very nice show.
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    Re: LA Audio Show - pics and thoughts

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    One interesting observation - a ton of rooms in this show are using the Audioquest Niagara 7000. Did anybody notice it in other shows as well ?
    Yes. Same as at Munich.
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    Thanks for all the great pics and commentary!
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    Re: LA Audio Show - pics and thoughts

    Any thoughts on the new Verity preamp and amp in the Verity / High Fidelity Services room?


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    Thanks for the pics , Wilson Audio really nailed the aesthetics, nice looking setups ....

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    Re: LA Audio Show - pics and thoughts

    Quote Originally Posted by tunes View Post
    Any thoughts on the new Verity preamp and amp in the Verity / High Fidelity Services room?


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    To be honest, the price and the sound of the Verity preamp/amp did not float my bloat. It was detailed but uninvolving. Not sure if it was a setup issue (which IMO, many many rooms had).

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    Quote Originally Posted by a.wayne View Post
    Thanks for the pics , Wilson Audio really nailed the aesthetics, nice looking setups ....
    Yes, they had good aesthetics, sounded good as well (if not the best). Out of all the Wilson rooms, the ARC and small Wilson (forgot the name but I posted the picture earlier) sounded and best and had a coherent sound.

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    Re: LA Audio Show - pics and thoughts

    Another observation - many rooms did a long wall setup. Not sure if that was strategic or was easier to setup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devg View Post
    Yes, they had good aesthetics, sounded good as well (if not the best). Out of all the Wilson rooms, the ARC and small Wilson (forgot the name but I posted the picture earlier) sounded and best and had a coherent sound.
    The small Wilson was probably the Sabrina.

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    Re: LA Audio Show - pics and thoughts

    Quote Originally Posted by tunes View Post
    Any thoughts on the new Verity preamp and amp in the Verity / High Fidelity Services room?


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    unfortunately it wasn't Verity's finest hour, the speakers were up against the wall and staging had little cohesion or specificity. The more successful rooms brought the speakers out into their space. the Verity designers were present, they musta thought otherwise...

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    Re: LA Audio Show - pics and thoughts

    Quote Originally Posted by Ritmo View Post
    Thoughts on the YG with ARC and D'Agostino?

    I've only heard them with Audionet or MSB. Preferred the MSB - YG combo.
    The Carmels on full ARC tubes was my favorite YG setup.
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    This system looks identical to mine right down to the color. No turntable or phonostage for me though. I'm a digital guy.

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    Re: LA Audio Show - pics and thoughts

    Great photos....Thanks for sharing! Hoping to hear some impressions on the Vivids as well as the Dartzeel/Evolution setup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tdimler View Post
    Great photos....Thanks for sharing! Hoping to hear some impressions on the Vivids as well as the Dartzeel/Evolution setup.

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    They were both excellent - in my top 5 rooms with Vandy for sure.

    For lower priced gear, Pranafidelity and Zu really rocked it.

    I also enjoyed Magico on Jadis and YG on ARC - go figure as they aren't shown with tubes often!

    The Tidal room was nice, but gosh if I didn't feel the price tag wasn't commensurate with the performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeithR View Post
    The Carmels on full ARC tubes was my favorite YG setup.
    I agree. They worked much better with the smallish room than the big YG's next door.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdandy View Post
    Devg.......Nice photos. Thanks for sharing them with us.

    What Esoteric models are these two components?


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    $900 system (Elac speakers + Emotiva integrated) and sounded great for the price

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    Re: LA Audio Show - pics and thoughts

    That's about it. I have some videos taken as well in some rooms where they played my music on my request. Will post them when I get a chance to process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuoppis View Post
    Thank you for the update.

    Would be nice to get a view based on music that allows to distinguish some audiophile characteristics.


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    The Magico room (S3 MkII) sounded great today. Effortless playback and very smooth. They couldn't play my CD (they didn't had a CD player), neither they had the recording in their collection (Remembrance - John Patitucci) but I listened to couple of LPs and digital. I requested Muddy Waters folk singer album and it sounded great but there were issues with the bass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tdimler View Post
    Great photos....Thanks for sharing! Hoping to hear some impressions on the Vivids as well as the Dartzeel/Evolution setup.

    TD
    The Vivids were are the best room I heard on Day 2. Huge soundstage and very lively, yet a little laid back. You could listen to this system for hours without any fatigue.

    I only heard the Evolution/Dartzeel on Day 1 but it sounded a bit hifi to me. I haven't returned, so I don't know if it improved later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devg View Post
    The Magico room (S3 MkII) sounded great today. Effortless playback and very smooth. They couldn't play my CD (they didn't had a CD player), neither they had the recording in their collection (Remembrance - John Patitucci) but I listened to couple of LPs and digital. I requested Muddy Waters folk singer album and it sounded great but there were issues with the bass.
    Devg, thank you for your detailed observations and for sharing. Great pictures also.

    Are you able to elaborate more on the issue regarding the bass in the Magico room?


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    Re: LA Audio Show - pics and thoughts

    Quote Originally Posted by Ritmo View Post
    Thoughts on the YG with ARC and D'Agostino?

    I've only heard them with Audionet or MSB. Preferred the MSB - YG combo.
    Quote Originally Posted by Devg View Post
    YG / MSB combo sounded the best of all the YG rooms. I was surprised that the Audionet room was a meh...
    When I posted the above comment, I haven't heard the YGs on the 5th floor. After hearing it today (Day 3), I think the YG/D'Agostino is the best YG setup I have heard in this show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuoppis View Post
    Devg, thank you for your detailed observations and for sharing. Great pictures also.

    Are you able to elaborate more on the issue regarding the bass in the Magico room?


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    The room had a single row very close to the back wall. I find it strange that the bass was very localized. When I sat in the middle, the bass was ok but wasn't deep. If I sat on either side of the middle position, the bass lost its anchor. If I stood behind the row closer to the back wall, the bass was deep but muddy. For companies like Magico, I am not sure why they skimp on getting bigger or proper rooms to showcase their speakers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PureVinyl View Post
    anyone heard the Tekton Double Impact Speakers in Room 533
    The Tekton seems to have a great potential but its possible that the electronics used couldn't make it shine. They lacked some bit of dynamics as well.

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    Re: LA Audio Show - pics and thoughts

    My top 3 rooms (and I was able to play my music)

    1. Pranafidility
    2. Karma/Viola
    3. Vivids/Luxman

    Out of all the rooms, I spent most of the time in Pranafidility and was amazed what the small monitors are capable of. In a small room, they played some tunes crazy loud without any harshness or fatigue but at the same time very very revealing. We played jazz, vocals, classical, rock and every time it performed like a champ. the dynamics was just off the chats. I am yet to hear a speaker in a show which can perform equally in more than one genre. On my request, they setup the floor standers and it took everything that the monitors did and took it to the next level. The setup was played with Pranafidlity preamp/amp - the amp is based off Hypex nc1200. After hearing this setup, anyone would have more respect for class D amp

    The Karma/Viola was fantastic as well - very lively, huge dynamics and played well to variety of tunes. The Vivids/Luxman sounded great as well - great soundstage, lively but just a tad laid back and could listen for longer duration without fatigue.

    All in all, it was a good show - got to hear some great systems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devg View Post
    The room had a single row very close to the back wall. I find it strange that the bass was very localized. When I sat in the middle, the bass was ok but wasn't deep. If I sat on either side of the middle position, the bass lost its anchor. If I stood behind the row closer to the back wall, the bass was deep but muddy. For companies like Magico, I am not sure why they skimp on getting bigger or proper rooms to showcase their speakers.
    Excellent, many thanks for clarifying.

    So, would you say it was a room or speaker issue?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuoppis View Post
    Excellent, many thanks for clarifying.

    So, would you say it was a room or speaker issue?


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    Room. The Ayon/Luminwhite room had similar issues as well, though they sounded excellent in other departments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devg View Post
    Room. The Ayon/Luminwhite room had similar issues as well, though they sounded excellent in other departments.
    Super, thanks.

    And again a big thank you for letting us on the other side of the world enjoy the LA Show through your eyes.

    Sharks rock!


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    Re: LA Audio Show - pics and thoughts

    Devg, thank you very much for the effort.

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    Devg, terrific job, thank you so much! Great commentary from yourself and Keith and others.

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    Possibly the worst looking setup ever!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devg View Post
    My top 3 rooms (and I was able to play my music)

    1. Pranafidility
    2. Karma/Viola
    3. Vivids/Luxman

    Out of all the rooms, I spent most of the time in Pranafidility and was amazed what the small monitors are capable of. In a small room, they played some tunes crazy loud without any harshness or fatigue but at the same time very very revealing. We played jazz, vocals, classical, rock and every time it performed like a champ. the dynamics was just off the chats. I am yet to hear a speaker in a show which can perform equally in more than one genre. On my request, they setup the floor standers and it took everything that the monitors did and took it to the next level. The setup was played with Pranafidlity preamp/amp - the amp is based off Hypex nc1200. After hearing this setup, anyone would have more respect for class D amp

    The Karma/Viola was fantastic as well - very lively, huge dynamics and played well to variety of tunes. The Vivids/Luxman sounded great as well - great soundstage, lively but just a tad laid back and could listen for longer duration without fatigue.

    All in all, it was a good show - got to hear some great systems.
    Steven Norber of PranaFidelity is a great guy and a lot of fun. He is always willing to play visitor's music. I always look forward to the PranaFidelity room because of Steven's energy and how good his system sounds--very musical and engaging. Steven has a good ear.

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    Great Job and Thanks for all the Photos!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devg View Post
    The Tekton seems to have a great potential but its possible that the electronics used couldn't make it shine. They lacked some bit of dynamics as well.

    Thanks for the update and a bit surprised on the dynamics with having two 10" bass drivers. could have been the electronics?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devg View Post
    When I posted the above comment, I haven't heard the YGs on the 5th floor. After hearing it today (Day 3), I think the YG/D'Agostino is the best YG setup I have heard in this show.
    Thank you for the kind comments, Devg! I'm glad you enjoyed it, and your photos are excellent, BTW!


    cheers,
    alex

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