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    Re: Axpona 2017 Official Pictures & Report Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    If he couldn't get into the Magico S3 room, I assure you it was when they were playing vinyl or digital. Peter and Dave did an amazing job with the vinyl and digital and when they were in control of the sources, the room was PACKED. I couldn't even get near the doorway.

    The tape cleared the room. It was boring as heck recordings and didn't sound good. I swear that deck needs an overhaul. The guy running the R2R is a nice guy, but I didn't care for the music he recorded nor the deck (and by observation, not many did either).

    As for CH, it wasn't the best pairing I've heard with Magico. But Melbguy1 has already alluded to that.
    I heard the tape once (a recording of piano and harmonica) and it sounded great. Others thought so too. What did you hear there that you didn't like?
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    Quote Originally Posted by madfloyd View Post
    I heard the tape once (a recording of piano and harmonica) and it sounded great. Others thought so too. What did you hear there that you didn't like?
    Every time I heard it, it was very soft and boring. Violin with a piano. Just not my thing I guess. But when Peter played vinyl/digital it was awesome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KeithR View Post
    I disagree - these dealers and manufacturers use the same room every year. They should know the flaws and design a system to sound good. Look at the proliferation of room treatment these days vs. 5 years ago. Many still avoid it. Everybody has the same power issues. I know a dealer who spends a half day on just Rockport speaker placement at Newport - how many go to the same trouble?

    Jason's opinion comes from his base Wilson/Pass system at home - which many wouldn't like, so its just one man's perspective. This is a bit more critical than he usually is (and nobody commented on his criticisms the past few years), but tbh confirmed several of my thoughts at other shows.
    What you are really bashing is the hotel room and the setup skills employed in a hotel room. My only point is it doesn't do any good to bash the gear after you walk into a hotel room and don't like the sound. I don't sugarcoat anything I hear at rooms and talk about how great something sounded if it sounded like crap to me. I just don't say anything about bad sounding rooms. Are you really going to steer clear of any gear that some person heard at a show and trashed it without knowing what the real culprit was? I take it all with a grain of salt. And besides, some of the rooms at Axpona that some people were raving about and named "best of show" didn't thrill me.
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    Re: Axpona 2017 Official Pictures & Report Thread

    Which rooms were those MEP ..???

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    Quote Originally Posted by mep View Post
    What you are really bashing is the hotel room and the setup skills employed in a hotel room.
    The latter yes, the former, no. The rooms on the upper floors are for the most part identical. You hear good/great sound in one, then go next door and hear poor sound, it isn't "the room". Setup...or maybe just poor speakers/electronics.
    Actually, much of what he describes doesn't sound like room issues at all. Maybe he just wasn't feeling it. One room sounded great...then bad.
    Hard to say what the heck was going on there, but if that is what he heard, then say it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by a.wayne View Post
    Which rooms were those MEP ..???
    I will tell you after you post pictures of your system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AJ Soundfield View Post
    The latter yes, the former, no. The rooms on the upper floors are for the most part identical. You hear good/great sound in one, then go next door and hear poor sound, it isn't "the room". Setup...or maybe just poor speakers/electronics.
    Actually, much of what he describes doesn't sound like room issues at all. Maybe he just wasn't feeling it. One room sounded great...then bad.
    Hard to say what the heck was going on there, but if that is what he heard, then say it.
    In the grand scheme of things, what is the value of that information? Zilch in my opinion. How many speakers on the market that people want to hear when they go to a high-end show were designed for the size of a typical hotel room? Horses for courses as they say, but in the case of high-end shows, people are trying to cram 6F, 7F, 8F, and 1 1/8M horses into the same size "course." You would never do that at home in your own listening room and yet people expect to see that at shows and act amazed when the sound is less than optimum. But what the hell, let's trash all the gear in the room and rule it out because some people didn't like the way it performed in a hotel room.
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    For the record, I've seen AJ at many shows. The best speakers he's ever made that I've heard were the model he demoed for us one year at a local audiophiles (I think he was giving that demo pair to his brother).

    What I find interesting is a pattern. I noticed that certain speakers always sound good/great from show to show to show. Some years they are in a big room, other years, they are in a small room. But they always manage to get good to great sound.

    Subsequently, I noticed other speakers rarely produce a decent sound at a show whether they are in a big room or a small room.

    Show in, show out, you can start to get a basic idea. If a hotel room is a hostile environment and the speakers you are considering sound good to great consistently, well, then chances are they may work well in your room. No guarantees, but you get the point. And the reverse is true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    For the record, I've seen AJ at many shows. The best speakers he's ever made that I've heard were the model he demoed for us one year at a local audiophiles (I think he was giving that demo pair to his brother).

    What I find interesting is a pattern. I noticed that certain speakers always sound good/great from show to show to show. Some years they are in a big room, other years, they are in a small room. But they always manage to get good to great sound.

    Subsequently, I noticed other speakers rarely produce a decent sound at a show whether they are in a big room or a small room.

    Show in, show out, you can start to get a basic idea. If a hotel room is a hostile environment and the speakers you are considering sound good to great consistently, well, then chances are they may work well in your room. No guarantees, but you get the point. And the reverse is true.
    I only asked because if he likes to see people get wire-brushed in public, I would be happy to oblige him if it was warranted after listening to his speakers. Your last point is what I said earlier, if something sounds great at a show, it should sound better at your house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mep View Post
    I will tell you after you post pictures of your system.
    Ok, inhale and hold, I will be right back ...

    Quote Originally Posted by mep View Post
    In the grand scheme of things, what is the value of that information? Zilch in my opinion. .
    I do agree , It's Zilch for me when i see your reviews .............

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    Re: Axpona 2017 Official Pictures & Report Thread

    BTW MEP, any info on the TT tango ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by a.wayne View Post
    BTW MEP, any info on the TT tango ....
    Like you care?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mep View Post
    I only asked because if he likes to see people get wire-brushed in public, I would be happy to oblige him if it was warranted after listening to his speakers.
    Reviewers must have a penchant for hyperbole.
    I didn't "like" anything such, except Jason expressing what he heard, good or bad. Maybe I just like honesty, rather than pretense.
    If you as a reviewer can't say a bad word about anyone/thing in industry, especially at an audio show(!), might as well be a cheerleader.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AJ Soundfield View Post
    Reviewers must have a penchant for hyperbole.
    I didn't "like" anything such, except Jason expressing what he heard, good or bad. Maybe I just like honesty, rather than pretense.
    If you as a reviewer can't say a bad word about anyone/thing in industry, especially at an audio show(!), might as well be a cheerleader.
    Audio shows are the worst place to get out your knife out and start carving for all the reasons I stated. If you read my reviews you can form your own opinion.
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    Re: Axpona 2017 Official Pictures & Report Thread

    Well, if you can't say anything bad even when you hear what might be to your ears, "bad" sound at an audio show, I think I'll skip.
    I'd rather read stuff by folks like Jason, or Mike, etc., who aren't afraid to express what they hear, at least to them.
    Others are free to disagree.

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    Since you listen to mostly clipped dynamics MEP how do you expect anyone to take your product reviews seriously.

    Btw, what amp does Karl use with his NOLA setup ..??


    Anyway , Im really surprised Myles never mentioned this to you when you were in training, Myles has become very sensitive to Dynamic clipping , especially after acquiring Big power for his Magico's...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AJ Soundfield View Post
    Well, if you can't say anything bad even when you hear what might be to your ears, "bad" sound at an audio show, I think I'll skip.
    I'd rather read stuff by folks like Jason, or Mike, etc., who aren't afraid to express what they hear, at least to them.
    Others are free to disagree.
    You keep assuming I never say anything negative.
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    Re: Axpona 2017 Official Pictures & Report Thread

    Mep , Show AJ your Pom Poms .....

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    Quote Originally Posted by mep View Post
    You keep assuming I never say anything negative.

    I'm assuming he missed your previous 2927 posts ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by a.wayne View Post
    Since you listen to mostly clipped dynamics MEP how do you expect anyone to take your product reviews seriously.

    Btw, what amp does Karl use with his NOLA setup ..??


    Anyway , Im really surprised Myles never mentioned this to you when you were in training, Myles has become very sensitive to Dynamic clipping , especially after acquiring Big power for his Magico's...
    How many times have I told you that Carl used the Ref 75 with the Nola KOs first with KT120 tubes and then with KT150 tubes? As for clipping all the time, how loud do you listen? Let's do some quick math with the Nola KO speakers rated at 90dB sensitivity:

    90dB = 1 watt
    93dB = 2 watts
    96dB = 4 watts
    99dB = 8 watts
    102dB = 16 watts
    105dB = 32 watts
    108dB = 64 watts

    108 dB is not a safe average loundness level to listen to and that is less than the RMS output of my amp. The Ref 75 has a beefy power supply that stores 520 Joules. That amount of current reserve will help you ride out crest peaks you love to talk about. Clipping is not an issue in my room which has a very low ambient noise floor and is 9' underground in a room with no windows or doors to outside. Just thick poured concrete walls insulated on the outside and in. You really have no business passing judgement on a system you have never heard. But that is the kind of guy you are.
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    Well i can agree if you throw away the science you can make up anything, as you just did ..





    Try it again with a little credibility, Like listening distance ,(instead of using 1M ) 87db (1W) instead of 90db (2watt) sensitivity (its a 4 ohm speaker) , so while i can believe you about the system sounding good with the ref75, ( it's a great sounding amplifier) Im confident your squashing Karls hard work ...


    Btw sensitivity ratings were off a bit here too

    http://www.stereophile.com/content/n...8w2UP8tRLS5.97


    just saying ...

    I have also heard the KO's being driven by big McIntosh monobloc toob amps and i can assure you on the Patricia Barber recording that was being played they were using way more than 200 watts/ ch on peaks..

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    Quote Originally Posted by a.wayne View Post
    Since you listen to mostly clipped dynamics MEP how do you expect anyone to take your product reviews seriously.

    Btw, what amp does Karl use with his NOLA setup ..??


    Anyway , Im really surprised Myles never mentioned this to you when you were in training, Myles has become very sensitive to Dynamic clipping , especially after acquiring Big power for his Magico's...
    Get your facts right first before you try and use me to ridicule Mark. I had the cj ART amps long before the Magicos took up residence in my system. The amps, in fact, had little to do with what my system's dynamic range at that time either. Then later on after that Magicos arrived, it was the addition of the Doshi phonostage that allowed me to harness what the table and cartridge were capable of doing as well the tape front end that now includes the Doshi Tapestage, FM heads running balanced out and a totally tricked out Technics deck.
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    Re: Axpona 2017 Official Pictures & Report Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by a.wayne View Post
    Well i can agree if you throw away the science you can make up anything, as you just did ..





    Try it again with a little credibility, Like listening distance ,(instead of using 1M ) 87db (1W) instead of 90db (2watt) sensitivity (its a 4 ohm speaker) , so while i can believe you about the system sounding good with the ref75, ( it's a great sounding amplifier) Im confident your squashing Karls hard work ...


    Btw sensitivity ratings were off a bit here too

    http://www.stereophile.com/content/n...8w2UP8tRLS5.97


    just saying ...

    I have also heard the KO's being driven by big McIntosh monobloc toob amps and i can assure you on the Patricia Barber recording that was being played they were using way more than 200 watts/ ch on peaks..
    You do realize you posted the graphs for the wrong Nola speaker right? The KO is a 90dB sensitivity speaker and Carl specifically wants it run off the 8 ohm tap.

    I think I figured out why you love to talk about crest factors so much. Aren't you a salesman for home theater gear in Florida? When you sell home theater gear to people who are trying to reproduce gun battles, cannons, bombs, and car wrecks with their systems at insanely high levels, it's really important to have lots of watts at your disposal. That probably helps explain your love for arc welder SS power amps and why you love to talk about crest factors. Listening to one bomb drop after another is going to bring up the average power requirements quite high. Listening to music that is is averaging less than 4 watts of average power is quite something different.

    Maybe I understand now why you don't want to show pictures of your stereo system even though you are constantly crapping on other people's gear. You probably don't even have a stereo system, you have a home theater system because that is what you sell. You like to listen to train wrecks while trying to cause them on forums.
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    Axpona 2017 Official Pictures & Report Thread

    Back to your regularly scheduled program...

    Just some random shots I hadn't uploaded yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mep View Post
    What you are really bashing is the hotel room and the setup skills employed in a hotel room. My only point is it doesn't do any good to bash the gear after you walk into a hotel room and don't like the sound. I don't sugarcoat anything I hear at rooms and talk about how great something sounded if it sounded like crap to me. I just don't say anything about bad sounding rooms. Are you really going to steer clear of any gear that some person heard at a show and trashed it without knowing what the real culprit was? I take it all with a grain of salt. And besides, some of the rooms at Axpona that some people were raving about and named "best of show" didn't thrill me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KeithR View Post
    In some ways, you are making the old Peter B argument - we can agree to disagree.
    I hope not. So you walk into a hotel room and you sit down to "listen" to a bunch of unfamiliar gear in what has to be an unfamiliar system shoved into a hotel room and now you are qualified to pass judgment on all the pieces of gear that made up the system you tried to listen to while other people were in the room yammering? Which is more effort than some people put into "listening" to a room before they pass judgement. I think I remember the big kerfuffle that happened on another forum was based on a member who went to an audio show in CA and passed judgment on a room that he never entered let alone sat down and tried to listen to. He got called out by other people who knew him and saw him at the show stick his head in the door for 15 seconds in the room that he later slammed on the internet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mep View Post
    So you walk into a hotel room and you sit down to "listen" to a bunch of unfamiliar gear in what has to be an unfamiliar system shoved into a hotel room and now you are qualified to pass judgment on all the pieces of gear that made up the system you tried to listen to while other people were in the room yammering?
    So all show reports are useless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AJ Soundfield View Post
    So all show reports are useless.
    I didn't say that. People love to see the pictures of the gear and some rooms do pull off really good sound. That's why I have said numerous times that if you hear something sound really good at a show, chances are good it will sound even better at your house unless your room is worse than a hotel room. The flip side of that is you can't really make the same judgment in reverse for the many rooms with bad sound.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mep View Post
    I didn't say that.
    That is exactly what you said.
    So you walk into a hotel room and you sit down to "listen" to a bunch of unfamiliar gear in what has to be an unfamiliar system shoved into a hotel room and now you are qualified to pass judgment on all the pieces of gear that made up the system you tried to listen to while other people were in the room yammering?
    No one is qualified to pass judgement on show rooms. Now you seem to be adding the caveat..unless it "sounds good" (to you we assume)

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    Having done a few shows in the US now, and a few in Brazil as well, I think I can chime in on this topic...

    See, a hotel room is not that different from a person's living room. Sure, sizes differ, and the challenges, while different, are just as present. I mean, it's much tougher to deal with a system that must be placed in a living room, off-center, with completely asymmetrical room layouts, than in a reasonably proportioned hotel room.

    Also, you can COUNT on electricity in the hotel being of the worst kind, so we always come prepared. PS Audio has saved our bacon many times, with the P10. While it does chop off a bit of dynamics, the stability you gain by using it in a hotel setup far outweights the negatives, specially with tube gear.

    It was clear that this year's AXPONA pushed the reviewers to the max, with barely enough time for proper listening. Perhaps an extra day is in order, or a better arrangement to accomodate the reviewer's visits.


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    Well said Alex. I agree. Axpona needs a "press/industry only" on Thursday IMO, they could even add the ability to schedule listening sessions on that day so everyone can plan out their day.


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    Yeah... They tried to do something like that at THE Show, but it was so badly communicated, that literally nobody knew about it, not even the exhibitors themselves, let alone the press... It was common to see folks still putting their systems together on Thursday, while we had ours ready to go

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    Well said Alex. I agree. Axpona needs a "press/industry only" on Thursday IMO, they could even add the ability to schedule listening sessions on that day so everyone can plan out their day.


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    Sure. Your pictures are 9000 times better than mine.


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    Quote Originally Posted by asiufy View Post
    It was clear that this year's AXPONA pushed the reviewers to the max, with barely enough time for proper listening. Perhaps an extra day is in order, or a better arrangement to accomodate the reviewer's visits.
    Agree. The "logic" that it's the rooms to blame for bad sound completely unravels when identical rooms on the same floor have "good" sound.
    I think it's entirely possible by late Sunday (I may have mistakenly posted Sat previously), Jasons ears had had enough.
    That is the fragility and variability of human perceptions. Take with grain of salt.
    Or better yet, experience it and judge for yourself.

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    After years of attending numerous shows and extensive listening in dealer showrooms I've developed an approach I use to form what I consider are reasonably valid conclusions. Since there are many possible limitations on the performance of a system in any given environment (room dimensions, power quality, setup, cabling, and the equipment itself) I try to limit my assessments to positive impressions formed. Further I only consider that each piece of the system being evaluated is capable of at a minimum the level of performance that I experience. Any part of the system may be capable of significantly better performance in a better room, with better setup, power, cabling, or other related gear, but I know it's at least capable of what I actually experienced. I try to not draw negative impressions since in a better system each piece of gear would likely perform better. It's hard to do this since it's an audiophile's nature to condemn whatever we hear that sounds bad, but I don't think that always results in fair and logically based conclusions. YMMV generally applies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AJ Soundfield View Post
    Agree. The "logic" that it's the rooms to blame for bad sound completely unravels when identical rooms on the same floor have "good" sound.
    I think it's entirely possible by late Sunday (I may have mistakenly posted Sat previously), Jasons ears had had enough.
    That is the fragility and variability of human perceptions. Take with grain of salt.
    Or better yet, experience it and judge for yourself.

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    Yes, you're on to something here
    This might be related to the reason ABX test results normally don't correlate to our listening impressions. When you're doing ABX testing, or going from room to room at a show to actually do a report for your "work", you're put under stress to do a specific thing. And that thing is not exactly listen to music, but to nitpick and try to find fault/differences. And frankly, that shouldn't be the goal of this hobby.
    We evaluate *anything*, not only audio gear, if we're relaxed and put in a state where we can take it in as a whole, instead of having to find fault with this or that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Well said Alex. I agree. Axpona needs a "press/industry only" on Thursday IMO, they could even add the ability to schedule listening sessions on that day so everyone can plan out their day.


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    Quote Originally Posted by audio.bill View Post
    After years of attending numerous shows and extensive listening in dealer showrooms I've developed an approach I use to form what I consider are reasonably valid conclusions. Since there are many possible limitations on the performance of a system in any given environment (room dimensions, power quality, setup, cabling, and the equipment itself) I try to limit my assessments to positive impressions formed. Further I only consider that each piece of the system being evaluated is capable of at a minimum the level of performance that I experience. Any part of the system may be capable of significantly better performance in a better room, with better setup, power, cabling, or other related gear, but I know it's at least capable of what I actually experienced. I try to not draw negative impressions since in a better system each piece of gear would likely perform better. It's hard to do this since it's an audiophile's nature to condemn whatever we hear that sounds bad, but I don't think that always results in fair and logically based conclusions. YMMV generally applies.
    I agree, I have heard equipment I thought negative in shows sound much better outside. If I heard something good at shows, it generally sounded better in proper set up. So yeah, don't want to judge negatively on shows but I find it a bit silly when industry spend so much money on the gear and not on setting it up right. At Munich, there is too much glass and rooms are many a times thin, causing bass loss. Some rooms are different from other rooms. There are small offsite rooms which actually have better conditions

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    There is no excuse for bad sound at any show , rooms are being setup by professionals not weekend audio warriors.

    With a really bad room , best to do static display, a pole, stripper, strobe lights and make sure enuff brochures..


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    Quote Originally Posted by a.wayne View Post
    With a really bad room , best to do static display, a pole, stripper, strobe lights and make sure enuff brochures..
    Or turn it into an MMA ring for reviewers

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    Wow, the Von Schweikert room hit the ball outta the park!!!! AVshowrooms.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by wisnon View Post
    Wow, the Von Schweikert room hit the ball outta the park!!!! AVshowrooms.com

    VAC/Von Schweikert Audio with The Kronos turntable and the SCPS-1, MasterBuilt Audio and ASC TubeTraps: Words cannot express what I felt when listening to Roger Waters “Amused to Death” on this system with the ULTRA 11 Von Schweikert loudspeakers. It is the best of show. It is the best of any room at any show I’ve ever attended and I have been in thousands of exhibit rooms over the years. The experience was otherworldly. The sound was big and detailed – organic; the room had a heartbeat except there was no room, everything disappeared, like having the best seat in the house at a venue with excellent acoustics. I’m usually not a big fan of large loudspeakers at shows because they are very hard to set-up properly in a less than adequate environment with little time to get things right, but this was an achievement of the first order. Damon, Kevin, Leif, Art, Kronos and MasterBuilt take a bow to yet another round of applause for providing us listeners with only the very best.
    Norm, I heard those speakers weigh in at 900 lbs ea, talking about getting the placement right the first time
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    LoL
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