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    Oppo UDP-205

    Oppo finally updated their webpage today to show their new UDP-205 4K Ultra HD Audiophile Blu-ray Disc Player with photos, specifications, and a price of $1299.00.



    https://www.oppodigital.com/blu-ray-udp-205/

















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    Re: Oppo UDP-205

    I'm considering getting one for our new home.
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    Re: Oppo UDP-205

    That is a good looking deck. I'll be upgrading from my Oppo 103 & stepping up to Jorma Duality xlr's .

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    Re: Oppo UDP-205

    Selectable digital filters, with about 6 or 7 options; nice! And an HDMI audio only out, with jitter reduction, I guess for the very few DAC's with HDMI in (Bryston and ?)
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    Re: Oppo UDP-205

    Quote Originally Posted by rbbert View Post
    Selectable digital filters, with about 6 or 7 options; nice! And an HDMI audio only out, with jitter reduction, I guess for the very few DAC's with HDMI in (Bryston and ?)
    PS Audio.


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    Re: Oppo UDP-205

    Quote Originally Posted by rbbert View Post
    Selectable digital filters, with about 6 or 7 options; nice! And an HDMI audio only out, with jitter reduction, I guess for the very few DAC's with HDMI in (Bryston and ?)
    I think W4S
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    Re: Oppo UDP-205

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    PS Audio.


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    Mike you sure its the same '

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    DirectStream uses an HDMI cable to transfer I2S data. This data can only be used with

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    work in other HDMI equipment as the I2S format incorporated does not comply with the HDMI standards. ""
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    Re: Oppo UDP-205

    Quote Originally Posted by CPP View Post
    Mike you sure its the same '

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    DirectStream uses an HDMI cable to transfer I2S data. This data can only be used with

    another compatible component, such as the PerfectWave Memory Player, and will not
    work in other HDMI equipment as the I2S format incorporated does not comply with the HDMI standards. ""
    Same for W4S. I thought I remembered reading about at least one DAC other than Bryston, but I can't recall it now
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    Re: Oppo UDP-205

    Quote Originally Posted by rbbert View Post
    Same for W4S. I thought I remembered reading about at least one DAC other than Bryston, but I can't recall it now
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    Re: Oppo UDP-205

    Right, thanks. I had considered buying that NAD at one time.
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    Re: Oppo UDP-205

    I believe there is also a Lyngdorf integrated and Classe integrated that can accept HDMI input. Although both of these are not stand alone dacs.

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    Re: Oppo UDP-205

    Quote Originally Posted by hiro100 View Post
    I believe there is also a Lyngdorf integrated and Classe integrated that can accept HDMI input. Although both of these are not stand alone dacs.
    Pretty much all AVR's and pre-pro's with any kind of audiophile pretensions can as well
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdandy View Post
    Oppo finally updated their webpage today to show their new UDP-205 4K Ultra HD Audiophile Blu-ray Disc Player with photos, specifications, and a price of $1299,-.
    Is this the new go-to Oppo now?


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    Re: Oppo UDP-205

    Quote Originally Posted by Kuoppis View Post
    Is this the new go-to Oppo now?
    Who knows, it won't ship 'til next week. It does use the ESS 9038 Pro DAC chip, and has lots of new, potentially cool features, but I've not seen nor heard anything about the sound. The 203 gets high marks for video quality but has also had a lot of "bugs" reported, not all of which have been fixed yet.
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    Re: Oppo UDP-205

    Anyone know if that's the same chip as their Sonica DAC?


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    Re: Oppo UDP-205

    Quote Originally Posted by socfan12 View Post
    Anyone know if that's the same chip as their Sonica DAC?
    Yes, and it appears that the features and perhaps the circuitry is very similar as well
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    Re: Oppo UDP-205

    Quote Originally Posted by socfan12 View Post
    Anyone know if that's the same chip as their Sonica DAC?
    Allan.......Yes, the Oppo Sonica DAC is equipped with the ESS ES9038Pro DAC.
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    Re: Oppo UDP-205

    If Tidal gets integrated, I see a purchase in my future for the Home Theater setup.
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    Re: Oppo UDP-205

    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyS View Post
    If Tidal gets integrated, I see a purchase in my future for the Home Theater setup.
    My 105D with the firmware update does Tidal ( has since early 2015), you would hope OPPO had this built in in this new model, but the 203 didn't come with Tidal so its a wait and see.
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    Re: Oppo UDP-205

    Quote Originally Posted by CPP View Post
    My 105D with the firmware update does Tidal ( has since early 2015), you would hope OPPO had this build in in this new model.
    Unfortunately the 205 and 203 don't do Tidal or any other streaming like my 105 and 103 do. I can't understand why OPPO decided to eliminate streaming functions.
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    Re: Oppo UDP-205

    Quote Originally Posted by PMCH View Post
    Unfortunately the 205 and 203 don't do Tidal or any other streaming like my 105 and 103 do. I can't understand why OPPO decided to eliminate streaming functions.
    I bet they are savings these features, along with Darbee processing, for the 203D / 205D.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TommyC View Post
    I bet they are savings these features, along with Darbee processing, for the 203D / 205D.
    Tommy.......That's when I will probably bite.
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    Re: Oppo UDP-205

    Quote Originally Posted by TommyC View Post
    I bet they are savings these features, along with Darbee processing, for the 203D / 205D.
    I'm not a streaming guy, so that doesn't phase me. Also I thought that Darbee processing was a gimmick & didn't make any real difference? I know Oppo were determined to fully test this new player so that they didn't have to roll out a series of firmware fixes like the UDP-203, so it should be a well sorted player focussed on bluray and audio atleast for now. In future they may add further functionality like streaming via firmware updates. I could see myself being an early adopter.

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    Re: Oppo UDP-205

    I was one of the first people to get an Oppo 203. I think there have been 3 firmware updates, and all were done in a few minutes over the network. Firmware updates are no big deal, and since the 205 will have the same video circuitry as the 203 it does start with the latest firmware. However, UHD and 4K are new technologies so expect to see more firmware updates over the next year.
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    Re: Oppo UDP-205

    Quote Originally Posted by TommyC View Post
    I bet they are savings these features, along with Darbee processing, for the 203D / 205D.
    Oppo has stated at several times that Darbee processing in the new 4K players will probably be too expensive to implement, and might offer no improvement over 4k upscaling anyway
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    Re: Oppo UDP-205

    Quote Originally Posted by PMCH View Post
    Unfortunately the 205 and 203 don't do Tidal or any other streaming like my 105 and 103 do. I can't understand why OPPO decided to eliminate streaming functions.
    I sent them a email asking why no streaming and mentioned the firmware upgrade that allowed Tidal in my 105.
    Their answer

    " Chris,


    The player was designed to be more streamlined and run faster than the previous generation of players. This necessitated that we did not include any streaming services in the player. The player does, however, have the ability to be augmented through firmware, so it is always possible that we can add streaming services to the player through future firmware releases.



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    So I take it as in the last run of their players, if more people complain about NO streaming, maybe a firmware upgrade will be released at a later date. Its a who knows for sure.
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    Re: Oppo UDP-205

    Firmware updates in Sept added: Added Gapless Playback , Added support for Roon making the UDP-203 and UDP-205 Roon Ready network players. And in a Beta release this month, OPPO 205 (only) supports MQA.
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    Re: Oppo UDP-205

    Quote Originally Posted by CPP View Post
    Firmware updates in Sept added: Added Gapless Playback , Added support for Roon making the UDP-203 and UDP-205 Roon Ready network players. And in a Beta release this month, OPPO 205 (only) supports MQA.
    MQA unfolding or full decode?


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    Re: Oppo UDP-205

    Quote Originally Posted by Kuoppis View Post
    MQA unfolding or full decode?


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    Re: Oppo UDP-205

    Quote Originally Posted by Kuoppis View Post
    MQA unfolding or full decode?
    Supposed to be full unfolding. I posted about this a couple of days ago in the MQA folder
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    Re: Oppo UDP-205

    Quote Originally Posted by rbbert View Post
    Supposed to be full unfolding. I posted about this a couple of days ago in the MQA folder
    Is it or is it not? Or don’t you really know?


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    Re: Oppo UDP-205

    Quote Originally Posted by Kuoppis View Post
    Is it or is it not? Or don’t you really know?..
    Oppo says it is; how else does one "know"? The 205 has always been able to play partially unfolded titles from Tidal, and sounded better than some cheap MQA DAC's while doing it.
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    Re: Oppo UDP-205

    Quote Originally Posted by rbbert View Post
    Oppo says it is; how else does one "know"? The 205 has always been able to play partially unfolded titles from Tidal, and sounded better than some cheap MQA DAC's while doing it.
    Ok thanks, I understand. So it does the unfolding, but no decoding.

    That is essentially no more than an Aurender does playing back Tidal Masters.


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    Re: Oppo UDP-205

    No, you have it backwards; Now the Oppo 205 finishes the complete unfold, whereas until the most recent firmware update it could only play the first unfold through its “regular”, at that time non-MQA DAC, as with any other DAC on Tidal’s list of non-MQA DAC’s.
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    Oppo UDP-205

    Quote Originally Posted by rbbert View Post
    No, you have it backwards; Now the Oppo 205 finishes the complete unfold, whereas until the most recent firmware update it could only play the first unfold through its “regular”, at that time non-MQA DAC, as with any other DAC on Tidal’s list of non-MQA DAC’s.
    Robert, I am not entirely sure whether you have gotten the differences right: it is either unfolding (partial decoding, which can be done on-the-fly in SW) and or decoding (full decoding, which requires a DAC chip-level implementation). Not sure what full/ complete unfolding represents.

    I was just asking as I am interested.


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    Re: Oppo UDP-205

    I wrote OPPO tech support for their own answer as on the MQA site OPPO is not listed as yet as a partner
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    Oppo UDP-205

    Quote Originally Posted by CPP View Post
    I wrote OPPO tech support for their own answer as on the MQA site OPPO is not listed as yet as a partner
    Thanks Chris, very kind.

    So we’re back at the UDP-205 doing the same as an Aurender, i.e. unfolding but not decoding. Latter would be required to get the full MQA benefit. Maybe it does more, let’s see.

    But then I would have expected the Sonica DAC to be MQA capable as well.


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    Re: Oppo UDP-205

    So according to Bob P and others at AVS Forums, the 205 is now a complete MQA DAC, recognized by Tidal as such (so Tidal sends it the unfolded signal to be decoded by the Oppo) and also able to fully decode downloaded MQA files (either on a USB drive or over a network). There is ongoing discussion about exactly what you can do with MQA using Roon and the Oppo 205, but since I don’t have Roon I cam’t give you more details than that.
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    Re: Oppo UDP-205

    Per OPPO, Within the OPPO 205 the MedaiTek decoder (quad core ARM Soc) is doing the full unfolding. The Dac (es9038 Pro) is optimizing the decoded MQA audio and then coverts it to analog.
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    Oppo UDP-205

    Quote Originally Posted by rbbert View Post
    So according to Bob P and others at AVS Forums, the 205 is now a complete MQA DAC, recognized by Tidal as such (so Tidal sends it the unfolded signal to be decoded by the Oppo) and also able to fully decode downloaded MQA files (either on a USB drive or over a network). There is ongoing discussion about exactly what you can do with MQA using Roon and the Oppo 205, but since I don’t have Roon I cam’t give you more details than that.
    Hi Robert, it appears you were right after all. Thank you for proving the details. That is great news and maybe a reason for me to buy the Oppo, just to try out full MQA.

    Have you tried MQA with it?

    Many thanks, Kuoppis


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    Re: Oppo UDP-205

    Quote Originally Posted by CPP View Post
    Per OPPO, Within the OPPO 205 the MedaiTek decoder (quad core ARM Soc) is doing the full unfolding. The Dac (es9038 Pro) is optimizing the decoded MQA audio and then coverts it to analog.
    Thanks Chris, for going through the hassle of inquiring with Oppo.

    In my mind that makes the Oppo a good candidate to buy just for trying MQA. I am not using that sort of players much anymore, as everything is online nowadays, but great to have options.


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    Re: Oppo UDP-205

    Quote Originally Posted by Kuoppis View Post
    Thanks Chris, for going through the hassle of inquiring with Oppo.

    In my mind that makes the Oppo a good candidate to buy just for trying MQA. I am not using that sort of players much anymore, as everything is online nowadays, but great to have options.


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    Well as a universal player, mine is supporting my HT setup but having MQA allows for a nice one box solution that works very well. I can only imagine what a Modwright mod would do for the sound
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    • Tube mod for UDP-205 will be the same circuit as for the Oppo Sonica DAC. Lundahl transformer input and output coupled, fully balanced, with RCA and XLR fully balanced outs.
    • PS 9.0 (V10) external supply included in the mod. This is different than the PS 9.0 (V9.9) that was used for the Oppo 105. Different voltage and only tube rectified, not tube regulated. NOTE: OLDER PS 9.0 supplies (V9.0 and V9.9 versions) WILL NOT work with this mod.
    • Truth umbilical will be included (all copper conductors, no silver). Any existing truth mod umbilical will work with this new mod.
    • IEC upgraded to Furutech.
    • Mod will include damping mods to enclosure and drive.

    OF course you provide the 205 and then provide another $2500
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    Re: Oppo UDP-205

    I have not yet tried full MQA with the Oppo, but probably will soon (currently leaving on a vacation). I’ll need to rejoin Tidal to do that.

    I like the sound of the Modwright mod quite a bit. I also have the 105 mod, and the 205 mod is a large step up from that
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