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    Nagra amps and speakers matching

    I'm interested to learn about good (and bad) experiences matching Nagra amps (specially the classic line) with several speakers brands. I noticed that recently at most shows, Nagra is presented with Wilson speakers. Would that be the best match?

    I have a pair of Magico S1mkII and am thinking about asking a home audition of the classic amp in its power and integrated version. However, I wouldn't want to waste my dealer time if it is known to be a bad match. My main concern is if the 100w would be enough for a Magico S series speaker (thinking about upgrading to the new S3mkII). Since the classic line is class A until about 20 or 30W (afaik) that could be enough for my listening levels, but would like to hear others opinios.

    This dealer also has Soulution, and I'm curious about the 330 integrated, which apparently will have a mono configuration. But since there is no launch date, it is not an option for now.

    Thanks,
    António
    System: Magico S1 MkII, DCS Puccini Player & Clock, Aurender N100C, SME Mod 15, SME IV, Lyra Etna, Nagra VPS
    Headfi: Violectric HPA V281, Sony Z1R, Kimber Axios Cu
    Cables: Transparent Premium USB, Gen5 Reference 75 Ohm, Ultra interconnects, phono and speaker cables
    Power: Shunyata EU7, Alpha NR, Furutech Powerflux-18E
    Accessories: Finite Elemente 600 APS, several Cerabases, Ceraballs and Cerapucs

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    Re: Nagra amps and speakers matching

    The Classic Amp and Int is around 10w in class A. Their big HD Amp is 30w in class A.

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    Re: Nagra amps and speakers matching

    I think if you have a good dealer, he should want you to have an audition no matter what. Unless he feels it won't be a suitable match in the first place.
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    Re: Nagra amps and speakers matching

    Quote Originally Posted by KeithR View Post
    I think if you have a good dealer, he should want you to have an audition no matter what. Unless he feels it won't be a suitable match in the first place.
    I followed your advice and am not sorry. I received the amp yesterday and after some burn-in it seems to be a great match for my speakers. I'll need a few more days to come to a conclusion, but for now I'm pretty impressed!
    The main purpose of this thread was to learn about members experiences matching Nagra amps with different speakers brands. From what I've been reading all over the internet, I'm yet to learn about a bad matching experience.
    System: Magico S1 MkII, DCS Puccini Player & Clock, Aurender N100C, SME Mod 15, SME IV, Lyra Etna, Nagra VPS
    Headfi: Violectric HPA V281, Sony Z1R, Kimber Axios Cu
    Cables: Transparent Premium USB, Gen5 Reference 75 Ohm, Ultra interconnects, phono and speaker cables
    Power: Shunyata EU7, Alpha NR, Furutech Powerflux-18E
    Accessories: Finite Elemente 600 APS, several Cerabases, Ceraballs and Cerapucs

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    Re: Nagra amps and speakers matching

    Quote Originally Posted by pessoa00 View Post
    I'm interested to learn about good (and bad) experiences matching Nagra amps (specially the classic line) with several speakers brands. I noticed that recently at most shows, Nagra is presented with Wilson speakers. Would that be the best match?

    I have a pair of Magico S1mkII and am thinking about asking a home audition of the classic amp in its power and integrated version. However, I wouldn't want to waste my dealer time if it is known to be a bad match. My main concern is if the 100w would be enough for a Magico S series speaker (thinking about upgrading to the new S3mkII). Since the classic line is class A until about 20 or 30W (afaik) that could be enough for my listening levels, but would like to hear others opinios.

    This dealer also has Soulution, and I'm curious about the 330 integrated, which apparently will have a mono configuration. But since there is no launch date, it is not an option for now.

    Thanks,
    António
    Joining this s little late. I have a pair of Stenheim Alumine 5s connected to my Nagra Classic amp. Am very happy with this combo but am moving to a Soulution solution as I want to reduce the amount of components (6 nagras) to 2.

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    Re: Nagra amps and speakers matching

    Quote Originally Posted by jussy1254 View Post
    Joining this s little late. I have a pair of Stenheim Alumine 5s connected to my Nagra Classic amp. Am very happy with this combo but am moving to a Soulution solution as I want to reduce the amount of components (6 nagras) to 2.
    I've been listening Alumine 5s in the Stenheim demo room where they've been driven by DarTzeel integrated amp - oh mama what a combo....if you can, try to listen to this combo before pulling the trigger (just for comparison)...

    Cheers
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    Re: Nagra amps and speakers matching

    I loved listening to the Stenheim Alumine 5s with Audio Consulting electronics in Munich 2016, and the bigger Stenheims in Munich 2014. However they did not sound right in Munich 2017 though that was more of a set up issue. The bass and soundstage of the Alumine 5 even in small rooms next to walls is phenomenal, and they are so fast and dynamic. Would love to hear them set up properly like near Geneva

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    Re: Nagra amps and speakers matching

    Quote Originally Posted by Golum View Post
    I've been listening Alumine 5s in the Stenheim demo room where they've been driven by DarTzeel integrated amp - oh mama what a combo....if you can, try to listen to this combo before pulling the trigger (just for comparison)...

    Cheers
    I had a pair of Magico Q1. No thanks
    i had a pair of Krell modularis. Not bad but worked well in my previous space
    i've listened to the YGs. No thanks
    i have a pair of Stenheim. Yes please. Any time, all the time

    i have a thing for aluminium speaker cabinets.

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    Re: Nagra amps and speakers matching

    Quote Originally Posted by jussy1254 View Post
    I had a pair of Magico Q1. No thanks
    i had a pair of Krell modularis. Not bad but worked well in my previous space
    i've listened to the YGs. No thanks
    i have a pair of Stenheim. Yes please. Any time, all the time

    i have a thing for aluminium speaker cabinets.
    I like Stenheim more than Magico but YG when set up is excellent. It can sound harsh otherwise. It needs a good amp. I heard it best with luxman m900u, think that Vitus will be great choice as well. But Stenheim Alumine 5 and YG Hailey are my two favorites for medium room high budget

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    Re: Nagra amps and speakers matching

    Quote Originally Posted by jussy1254 View Post
    Joining this s little late. I have a pair of Stenheim Alumine 5s connected to my Nagra Classic amp. Am very happy with this combo but am moving to a Soulution solution as I want to reduce the amount of components (6 nagras) to 2.
    Which Soulution components are you looking at? I’m curious because I’m also considering Soulution myself
    System: Magico S1 MkII, DCS Puccini Player & Clock, Aurender N100C, SME Mod 15, SME IV, Lyra Etna, Nagra VPS
    Headfi: Violectric HPA V281, Sony Z1R, Kimber Axios Cu
    Cables: Transparent Premium USB, Gen5 Reference 75 Ohm, Ultra interconnects, phono and speaker cables
    Power: Shunyata EU7, Alpha NR, Furutech Powerflux-18E
    Accessories: Finite Elemente 600 APS, several Cerabases, Ceraballs and Cerapucs

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    Re: Nagra amps and speakers matching

    Solution 530 and 541. I feel this is the perfect 2 'box' solution for me

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