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June 4, 2013, 08:33 PM #1Junior Member
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Yes, I have some little green machines
No posts in Shindoland as yet? I feel like a pioneer of sorts.
I confess to owning Shindo and am glad I had the opportunity to get into the land of green thanks to the wisdom of my friendly and helpful Shindo dealer, Don Better, located in Cleveland.
I made the switch from mostly McIntosh about two years ago starting with a Shindo Aurieges preamp, then a Montille amp (6V6 version), and then popped for a Monbrison preamp....YUMMY!
The electronics are pushing a revamped (ALK x-overs) pair of Klipsch LaScalas (1977) from a former beer hall. The Shindo equipment makes the LaScalas sing like never before.
Technics DD turntables (SL1210, SP15, SP25) with Technics, Audio Technica tonearms, and one of Tonearm Audio's 12" cherry arms mounted on a Tonearm Audio cherry plinth spin the 'holy objects' which are read by a Denon DL 103, a Denon DL 103R, and an Ortofon SPU Classic N E.
I still have a couple of pieces of McGear...an MC225 and an MC250; both sounding great after 50 + years and matching well with the Monbrison when I switch gear around.
Anyone on the forum joining me in green??
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June 4, 2013, 09:20 PM #2Super Moderator
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Re: Yes, I have some little green machines
Wow!
I bet Shindo and Klipsch is wonderful. Hmmmmm. Something else to think about now.Fleetwood Deville by Oswald Mills Audio, Vienna Acoustics Haydn Jubilee, Wharfedale Linton w/ stands, Klipsch RB-75, Klipsch RP-160M.
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June 6, 2013, 08:53 AM #3Junior Member
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Re: Yes, I have some little green machines
Joeinid, your Cornwalls are a match made in heaven for Shindo electronics. The Montille amp is 15 watts per channel but sounds like a thousand watts through the LaScalas....and the music is sublime!
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June 6, 2013, 08:59 AM #4Senior Member
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Re: Yes, I have some little green machines
I dream of a Haut-Brion and a Masseto. Perhaps someday...
Doug
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June 6, 2013, 10:48 AM #5Behavior Moderator (be nice police!)
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Re: Yes, I have some little green machines
I would love to hear Shindo gear sometime !! I have always loved the La Scala's, i bet it's a sweet combination !!!!
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June 7, 2013, 11:36 PM #6Senior Member
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Re: Yes, I have some little green machines
I've loved Shindo since the first time I heard it...
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August 30, 2013, 03:54 PM #7Senior Member
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Re: Yes, I have some little green machines
Beavis - congrats. I have heard Shindo and I know the particular magic they make. Extremely impressive, and what I admire most above all is the artful balance they achieve in their 'voice'. Yes, there is warmth...but so too is there real detail (an incredibly low noise floor...aren't they 119db signal to noise??), and so the midrange beauty literally floats out of nowhere...very very cool. I can see why people get into Shindo and never feel the need to leave, or just move up the Shindo lineage. Congrats...that is magic stuff. I went my own way and found my own magic. But I admire and remember the Shindo magic well.
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September 25, 2013, 12:32 AM #8Senior Member
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Re: Yes, I have some little green machines
Beavis,
We might have very similar ears because I own Shindo too ( Giscours / Corton Charlemagne Q ) and I also have a MC225, DL103.... But no Scala here....
Just a pair of Heresy III which did not pair well with my Apetite but singed wonderfully with the CCQ.
Shindo makes truly magic gear but the 225 is not so far from it. Very very similar.
I wish that McIntosh could produce today what they made in the 60's and 70's. The gear was much more musical. I like modern Mcs a lot. But I'm completely in LOVE with my vintage Mcs.... ( 225, MR77, 2205, MA5100)Shindo, Nagra, Electrocompaniet, Harbeth, AMR, Mc Intosh, Auditorium 23, Rega, DeVore, JC Verdier, WireWorld, Kimber
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November 20, 2013, 02:28 PM #9Senior Member
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Re: Yes, I have some little green machines
Expecting Petite Latour
I've had the Giscours, Cortese, and Lafite for a couple of years. The Petite Latour (FC) are ordered and I hope to have them in about 3 weeks. I love the Lafite but I just had an urge to upgrade for some unknown reason.
As to the thread, hopefully the PL's are not green!
Bill
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November 20, 2013, 02:30 PM #10Senior Member
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Re: Yes, I have some little green machines
I've never really had the chance to listen to Shindo, but sure want to.
Jock
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November 20, 2013, 02:31 PM #11Senior Member
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Re: Yes, I have some little green machines
I like your plane.
Do you go upside down a lot?
Originally Posted by Loop4fun
Expecting Petite Latour
I've had the Giscours, Cortese, and Lafite for a couple of years. The Petite Latour (FC) are ordered and I hope to have them in about 3 weeks. I love the Lafite but I just had an urge to upgrade for some unknown reason.
As to the thread, hopefully the PL's are not green!Jock
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November 20, 2013, 03:54 PM #12Senior Member
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Re: Yes, I have some little green machines
Thanks! About 1/2 the time... Originally Posted by the professor
I like your plane.
Do you go upside down a lot?
Bill
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November 20, 2013, 03:57 PM #13Senior Member
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Re: Yes, I have some little green machines
Originally Posted by the professor
I like your plane.
Do you go upside down a lot?
BTW, I like you equipment a lot. I heard a demo with the Alexia, D'Agostino pre, and monos last week.Bill
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November 20, 2013, 05:14 PM #14Senior Member
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Re: Yes, I have some little green machines
Same event I heard them at, I'm sure.
Where do you keep her? I live out at Hidden Valley (5TX0).
Originally Posted by Loop4fun
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November 20, 2013, 06:00 PM #15Senior Member
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Re: Yes, I have some little green machines
Jock, Aero Country as of a couple of months ago. Moved from RBD. Originally Posted by the professor
Same event I heard them at, I'm sure.
Where do you keep her? I live out at Hidden Valley (5TX0).Bill
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November 20, 2013, 06:04 PM #16Senior Member
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Re: Yes, I have some little green machines
cool - we're airport neighbors
Jock
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November 20, 2013, 11:13 PM #17Senior Member
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Re: Yes, I have some little green machines
Jock, I tried to PM you, but I'm too new.
Bill
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November 20, 2013, 11:31 PM #18Senior Member
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Re: Yes, I have some little green machines
Yes it takes 10 posts.
Sent a PM to ya.Jock
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November 21, 2013, 12:53 AM #19Senior Member
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Re: Yes, I have some little green machines
Hi Bill, Originally Posted by Loop4fun
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June 2, 2014, 07:22 PM #20Senior Member
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Re: Yes, I have some little green machines
Before my O/96s I had a pair of LaScla IIs with my Shindo gear. It was an impressive pairing but the Devores are a real step up
DALE
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and Auditorium A23 cables.
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June 2, 2014, 08:51 PM #21Senior Member
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Re: Yes, I have some little green machines
Dale...have you tried/demoed any of John Devore's other speakers with the green boxes?
Suoer 8s, 88s, Super 9s, Silverbacks, 3XLs?
I like John's more traditional narrow baffle speakers a bit more than the O96s and O93 (more so in terms of form factor than sonics necessarily), although I do find the Gibbons and Silverback present a wider and deeper stage and more crisp images on that stage vs. the Orangutans which are more about tone and texture (they certainly sound beautiful). Just curious if the Orangutans are your first foray into DeVore speakers and if not how the Gibbons or Silverback mated with Shindo.
I am particularly keeping an eye out on his new upcoming Gibbon X speaker (as you may recall, I had started that thread on the Xs on that other forum which caused that hoopla when DeVore's responses were edited). Just curious.
ThanksCyril
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June 2, 2014, 10:43 PM #22Senior Member
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Re: Yes, I have some little green machines
That's right you did start that thread. So you are the reason I received an "infraction", and Cucumber Jones was banned.HaHa
I'm glad it happened because otherwise I wouldn't have ended up here.
I have a pair of Devore Super 8's in my second system that I have owned for about 6 yrs. They are a permanent fixture in my family room along with a Leben CS300XS. They suite the smallish room perfectly, not imposing but a perfect match. I have taken them upstairs to my main system to try with the Shindo gear and although they match up with the Shindo wonderfully, they are just too small for that room. The Super 8's are a beautifully simple speaker appearance wise. Being a professional woodworker, I truly can appreciate his cabinetry work.DALE
Main system: Shindo Masseto, Shindo Cortese, Devore Orangutan O/96, Thorens TD125 MkII by Artisan Fidelity, Ortofon RS-309D, Ortofon SPU Classic, W4S modded Sonos, Metrum dac, Shindo
and Auditorium A23 cables.
Second system: Accuphase E-280, B & W CWM7.3 S2, W4S modded Sonos,Metrum dac, A23 cables
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August 4, 2014, 07:16 PM #23Member
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Re: Yes, I have some little green machines
And I was banned for that too; plus pointing out the undisclosed conflict of interest.
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August 4, 2014, 07:17 PM #24Member
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Re: Yes, I have some little green machines
The narrow baffle speakers aren't as efficient as wider baffle ones. The baffle helps efficiency which I think is important.
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