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Hang on WBF or AS. No need for me mep. The world has become "tribal" in too many ways. Any more hostile comments anyone? Have a good life. :wave:

Hi Randy,

Thank you for your detailed response and I agree with your perspective on this issue. No problems there. What I find problematic is the overall aggressive tone of the discussion. It...

Why all the hostility about a simple thread directed at me and others? People are simply offering "good faith" opinions based on their personal experiences. Sorry but I don't get it and it gives me...

Point well taken Randy. I think our only point of "minor" disagreement (perhaps) is the reality of potential buyers being unable to determine what the actual MSRP really is. And as you said, this...

Randy,

I don't get PO'd or angry about much of anything these days. Anger is a self destructive emotion which I avoid at all costs.

RE alternative facts. You stated that there is no such...

I basically stated that same sentiment in one of my previous posts.

It is not nonsense in the view of certain folks who have posted on this thread. Some have stated they want a manufacturers website to provide the MSRP on their product line. I personally disagree...

Exactly. Maybe that's why people get frustrated. For me, I enjoy the research and reading reviews. Others obviously don't. Rushed, too busy, impatient, who knows. Maybe we've gotten used to...

No, I didn't. Some do, some don't as stated in the initial post of the OP. Sometimes life is difficult Brian. And as you know, threads diverge into variants of the initial topic all the time. ...

Just do your research. They are available in the individual product reviews. I know the Pulsar Graphene is $9K. I never said that all manufacturer websites post MSRP on their product lines. In...

Now that I've provided pricing info on Pass, I'll leave it to you to research CJ and Joseph Audio.

In my view, pricing has two components.

1) Recoup costs for development phase.

2) Price the product based on similar from other manufacturers and / or price what you think the market will...

One example. Goto Reno Hifi and you can find all MSRP prices for any piece of Pass Labs gear. It may not be a "full" price list on one piece of paper (if that's what you mean) but the info is...

See the post above.

"Alternative facts" anyone. :disbelief: What a product is worth to an individual is another story.

Can someone provide me with a list of audio manufacturers who don't provide MSRP for their products.

Are you talking about me?

What reputable manufacturers don't disclose MSRP either on line or via phone contact? And if they don't and given all the choices available to the consumer, why would any informed buyer be...

Serious audio type buyers should already know what the MSRP is. That's called "due diligence".

Why was this thread even posted?

This topic has been beaten to death on this site and elsewhere. It's all subjective anyway. Let it die.

I agree with the others. Seems like we are losing the pioneers of high end design too quickly.

Oh well. So we disagree. It would have been nice if you were able to respond to my initial post, with which you obviously disagree, in a civil, respectful, "non irritated" manner. You did not.
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Certainly some of the market is for the wealthy old white dudes and / or wealthy old asian dudes. Thank you for your rude, pretentious response. Appears you have an anger issue.

My hope is that the hi end manufacturer's recognize that their current pricing scheme is unsustainable (wealthy old white dudes only live so long) and will provide product that will address this...