Typhon T2 - Shunyata Research
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With T2 being in a denali size chassi. The NIC’s are ofcourse alot smaller than in the Typhon QR. Are the NIC’s slightly smaller than the Tritonv3 as well then?
I’m trying to gauge its performance but size is not everything? :)
What is the fundamental difference T2 vs Typhon QR? Apart from being 3-zone is there something else but smaller NIC’s or are there other effective optimizations that comes closer to QR than before?
Of course Shunyata announce a new product when my Everest is on the truck heading west to me from the dealer.
You're fine. It's for everything BUT Everest since you have everything in the Everest already.
I also have a Denali 6000/S v1 that might benefit from Typhon T2.
Trying to wrap my tiny brain around this. How does a Denali v2/Typhon T2 combo compare to an Everest?
From looking at the product info, Denali V2 + Typhon T2 were designed to provide performance equivalent to Everest using the specifically-designed umbilical, you don't need to use a dedicated power cord for each. A key function of connnecting the Typhon module to the Denali power distributor using the umbilical is that it provides connection of the Denali's AC receptacles to the significantly larger QR/BB device inside the Typhon chassis.
Denali V2 (6,000) + Typhon T2 (5,500) + Reference Umbilical (1,250) = 12,750
Everest = 9,900
Does combo #1 outperform the Everest? Considering it's almost 30% more expensive.
The V2/T2 combo would still lack the CMode filter that is in the Everest. Assuming that the QR/BB & NIC components of the T2 are additive with their counterparts in the V2, the question then becomes whether those combined elements are more effective than their counterparts in the Everest. If not, then the Everest would be the clear winner. If they are, then both the V2/T2 combo & the Everest would have each some qualities that are better, & some that are worse, than the other. And therefore each might be the superior performer, depending on the systems they are used with. I wonder what Caelin's take on this is. And I assume that eventually someone will try a "shootout"...
I think it is option for those who already have Denali V1 or V2 but not ready to move up to Everest yet. Otherwise go all the way with Everest will be the most cost effecient.
I saw the suggested application in their website, I am just wondering if we can use all 3 outlets (e.g. umbilical for Denali, and 2 other outlets for monoblock amps.
According to the folks at Shunyata - "We'll wait for customer, dealer and distributor feedback to confirm this but Caelin thinks the Typhon T2/Denali 6000S v2 combo might end up being a bit better then the Everest."
You'd think they'd be close in performance. The Typhon T2/Denali 6000S/v2 is $1000 more expensive MSRP than the Everest. Same number of outlets. The choice between the two would probably come down to form factor. For me the tower chassis is appealing because it's not taking up shelf space. And the $1000 saved on purchase price would buy half a power cable.
How does one connect the Altaira to the V2/T2 combo? Altaira to the V2? or to the T2? I want to say the T2 since it's the "last" component before the wall.
I would have thought both.
CGC cable from Altaira to the Typhon T2 ground terminal. Then, a "jumper" CGC cable from T2 to the Denali terminal.
I’m a bit confused by this. Why would you need a jumper between T2 and Denali? It already has the 30A umbilical?
Listening-wise there might be a point though?
Does the umblilical option mean you can actually connect THREE not just two components ? (two via the regular outlets and the third one via umbilical)
The question has already been asked & answered: look at Nov. 26 above...
Well, he have asked about connecting a Denali ... I'm asking about connecting a small system consisting of just 3 components.
Denali has it's own set of filters. I would like to know, if the Typhoon T2 has three independent sets of filters, or maybe the umbilical out is tied to one of the the regular outlets.
Ahh... Sorry! As far as I can tell, there are no CCI filters on the T2, meaning that if different type of components (ie analog & digital) are plugged in to the 2 outlets they would not be filtered from each other, which is not ideal. I doubt, but have no clue, whether the umbilical connection could be used for a 3rd component...
When a T2 is used in conjunction with Denali, the two function as a single, two-chassis power distributor. You need to connect the two chassis together electrically, which is the function of the jumper. The reason you connect the CGC from Altaira to the T2 is because it is T2 that is connected to the incoming power cord. This creates the shortest distance between the earth ground in the power cord and the chassis ground of the dual-chassis power distributor.
So, my thought is, if you've got two Altairas in a segmented system you want to use in conjunction with a Denali V2/Typhon T2, I'd suggest connecting one Altaira's 7th terminal to the other Altaira's 7 terminal, and then connect a CGC from this 2nd Altaira to one of T2's ground terminals. You'd then use the 2nd GP-NR terminal of T2 to connect to the GP-NR terminal of Denali.
Major miss - the cable cradle; should have been on the T2.
The video makes it clear you can use the dedicated umbilical connection for another component, if you order an umbilical with a C15 or C19 connector. But if one is going to order just a T2 (that has no CCI filters) to use up to three components, the question is, for the asking price, would it be best to just get a Denali v2 for an extra $500 - in other words, which one would sound best for up to 3 components. The 3-component scenario also raises the issue of that 30A umbilical connector, in the sense that if it were a typical outlet, one could use any cord - like the Alpha, Sigma or Omega - not just that umbilical cord they now sell. I like the 30A connector, but it doesn't feel like a good overall decision to me...
I think T2 is primarily pitched at existing Denali owners who want Everest performance without having to sell their Denali and buy a new Everest. It seems T2 is universal voltage, same as Typhon was. T2 should have the cable cradle.
The Denali v2 can easily fetch $3000 so for the same upgrade cost just go for an Everest, and you end up with a better conditioner and one umbilical less. Assuming you can fit the Everest
So far no comments on performance and that is what I am interested in. My dilemma is that I have two systems so funds get divided. My Denali v2 is on a split-wall system so only front-end components are connected to it. Amplification is on a different power conditioner so benefits of a Typhon are diminished.
Amazing that a Denali can now be expanded by an additional 3 boxes (2 box Altaira and a Typhon). That total is more boxes than I have to connect (source, DAC, preamplifier).:bonkers:
A T2 will help your sources as well on your Denali/Shunyata PD.
I would keep your present layout. Keep the Denali on one wall for the source components and put the Typhon T2 on the amplifiers. You didn't say which power conditioner was powering the amps? Unless it is an Everest, it doesn't really matter which conditioner it is, including one of ours. The effects of a Typhon T2 on amplifiers cannot be overstated.
Caelin,
Thank you for the suggestion. If only it was that easy. The amplifiers (1 stereo or 2 monos seasonally) are on platforms between Sound Lab speakers. I need 4 outlets. Roger West swears power cords, etc. do not affect the Sound Labs because of the massive transformer and the resulting low voltage to the panels. Still, I can't bring myself to plug them into the wall or use factory power cords.
Currently the Sound Labs share an Audience AR6-TSSOX with the amplifiers. I have Delta v2 NRs on the Sound Labs. I felt they were a good cost compromise considering they were "allegedly" not going to be an improvement. They are an aesthetic improvement and flexible enough to assume the downward-facing-dog position required to insert into the top of the Sound Lab transformer box.
I wonder how the Typhon T2 would work in conjunction with the Everest, connected by the umbilical. Has anyone tried this combo?
Ken
For an additional level of noise reduction in high EMI environments.
From the Shunyata website:
The Typhon T2 also comes equipped to receive an optional Performance or Reference level umbilical, allowing it to be connected in-line to any Shunyata power-distributor as a performance force-multiplier of the first order.
Ken
Just to clarify: The TYPHON T2 was created specifically to be a mate to the Denali 6000/2 v2. When combined with the Denali it is an 8 outlet distributor, with two high current outlets dedicated to amplifiers. The Denali, T2 stack is the answer for people that have asked for a "shelf mount" version of the Everest. (Although it was created with the Denali in mind, it is also compatible with any of our other power conditioners including older models like the Hydra Model-8, VRay or Tritons.). The one exception to this is the Everest. Pairing the Everest with the T2 is not a good match. Too much of a good thing is too much.
The TYPHON T2 has the same QR/BB engine as that in the Everest.
Therefore, in some systems, the Denali 6000/S v2 and TT2 stack may perform slightly better than an Everest. But all that is highly dependent upon each individual system.
Both the Everest and the Denali/T2 stack are world-class in performance and they are extremely close in overall performance. The deciding factor on which to choose would probably be form factor. Do you prefer a vertical stand-alone power distributor or a more conventional shelf mount unit. In our reference system, we use the Everest to power the Constellation preamp, amplifiers and active crossover. We use a Denali 6000/S v2 and TT2 stack to power the Aurender and dCS digital stack.
The other major application for the T2 is as a stand-alone power distributor for high power amplifiers. A typcial application would be to use an Everest for the front-end equipment and the Typhon T2 to power the amplifier(s) off a separate dedicated line. There is a 30A Typhon option that will be available in January.
My current set up is D2000T for my monoblock amps and Denali V1 for the rest.
Will it be beneficial to connect the T2 outlet (not the umbilical one) to D2000 for the amps?
If not, any suggestion to keep D2000T in my current set up? Thanks
@CGabriel - running a simple setup with a Boulder stereo amp and Lumin X1 DAC/streamer. Is there any potential downside to running those two items off a single Typhon T2, or would I be better off separating the source and amp on two separate units?
There is no downside to connecting both components to a single TT2. If however, you are using two separate dedicated AC lines for each component, then I would recommend two TT2s. But I think you will be more than happy with a single TT2.
(and JFYI, the @CGabriel does nothing to notify me. I just happened to see your post)
Any chance of receiving one before Xmas? 😃
So... what improvement could I expect if I put a TYPHON T2 in front of each of my amplifiers, which are presently plugged straight into the wall?
I think it might be similar to the effects of an Everest but with a bit higher DTCD(?). If I understand the purpose of Typhon T2 correctly. There should be no other more desirable unit for an amp or amps.
I have therefore decided to put the duties of 3 large Meridian active speakers on the T2. They were driven by the Triton V3 previously. Umbilical goes to active center speaker. I know there is no filtering in that cord but that is fine for this purpose.
Right now my PassLabs XS300 amps are on Shunyata Sigma HC power cords plugged directly into the wall... each on its own dedicated circuit.
What would have the most positive impact on my system...
Adding a TT2 for each amplifier?
Or upgrading the power cords (which are 2 or 3 generations behind the current ones) to the latest Omega power cords and going directly to the wall?
Or should I hold off on either for now and instead look at getting properly grounded with the Altaira?