http://www.monoandstereo.com/2017/10/new-furutech-ncf-booster.html
http://www.furutech.com/2017/10/11/15603/
http://www.audioshark.org/attachment...id=21087&stc=1
Printable View
Actually a pretty good idea. Funny that Furutech lists some awards it has won for "2018." Audio people have no shame!
i don't know about awards but i think these little devices may be very handy with some of the heavy cables in the market including my own power cords. I ordered a bunch to try them and if they actually improve the sound as well as hold them in the correct position it will be a bonus.
English review is ready - link
http://soundrebels.com/wp-content/up...oster-0019.jpg
While I’m guilty of some silly (high priced) tweaks in my system. But this is just ridiculous. There is no possible way that lifting a cable off the ground will do anything accept take money from your bank account and put it in theirs.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Just try & hear the difference ;-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Phishphan
Your assumption is absurd. We spend 99% of our time discussing why this sounds better, that sounds better, people professing Shunyata cables vs. that cable, amp stands, why the best "isolation stands makes so much difference", power isolation, etc BUT when it comes to ensuring that our plug connectors on some of these HUGE powercord have a tight fit with the component, it is "ridiculous".Quote:
Originally Posted by Phishphan
Now that is ridiculous. I am using a thick power cord (Gobel, not even close to as thick or heavy as competitors) on a very expensive DAC (MSB Select) and the one problem I am having, is ensuring a good tight fit between plug and DAC power supply as the torque of the plug angles the fitting in a precarious way. This device, ingenious in my mind, ensures that torque is eliminated the fit perfect ensuring a perfect connection.
This is definitely one of the more appropriate tweaks in audio compared to some of the real snake oil.
Yep, on the floor would be a better plan. Theoretically in the floor wall corner might be better yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phishphan
Whether or not lifting a cable off the ground does anything is debatable, and probably depends on what is covering the floor and the relative humidity of the room. But that's not the question here, as the purpose of the NCF Booster isn't to lift the plug off the floor per se... it's to support the weight of the plug that's already elevated off the floor (or shelf if it's at the component end). IMO, this is a worthy concept whether it results in better sound or not, as heavy, drooping cables can mean poor connections and/or stress on cables and components.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phishphan
I added two yesterday supporting the power cables that go into my pass labs amps sitting on SRA ohio platforms. I don't know if its the better cable connection/alignment or perhaps the materials reacting with the furutech FI-50 NCF plugs in my sablon audio power cables but there was a change similar to what was described in the review above. It's only been one day so a lot more listening to come.
We have sold over 100 of these devices in the last few months and every single person that bought them , bought more.
I wont say anymore since that tells the tale.
I personally am using them in my system on all the power cords and on my speaker cables as well
Cable bras.
....and it's a proven fact that can be measured, that carpet carried zero static electricity!!! Yes, I need some for the power cords as the AQ Hurricane are HEAVY beasts, lol. It's worth not having the strain. I just cut some wooden carpet lifters for all cables and have heard a difference. What many don't realize is that sound differences are not usually night and day in this league, but subtle ones. Lowering the noise floor WILL allow yo to hear details that you would miss otherwise. Making bold statements about products that you have obviously NOT had in your system and most probably have never evne heard in a store shows major ignorance. Nothing to see here, just move on...;)
Static electricity is just a difference in potential between two things. At least one of those things needs a very high insulation resistance. Can't call it DC (Direct Current) because no current is involved until it discharges or arcs and then it's gone (for the moment). It's of no concern to the low impedance AC power system, but it is of concern to sensitive signal inputs, when connecting cables. Once the cables are connected it's no concern to them either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ctsooner
If you have fire hose sized powe cables with 5 lb connectors on each end, you need a cable bra to keep one end of the connector in the wall and the other end plugged into your components. I have seen lots of pictures of people’s systems with fire hose cables and you can clearly see the cables trying to pull themselves out of the wall and out of the components. They are barely making a connection.
A fire hose size AC power cord is like adding a few heavy links to a chain and thinking that somehow it will be stronger. Georg Ohm and Gustav Kirchhoff would not understand and neither does the electricity.
I can't speak about static electricity since I am not a scientist however a heavy end on the end of a cable acts a lever from physics and to pervent that lever pulling down on the cable and forcing the connector to come loose or only have a partial connection to the wall is what the cable boosters do as well as what the material itself does . This can you read about in the literature since again I am not a scientist and won't make claims about what I don't truly understand.Quote:
Originally Posted by Speedskater
One thing I do appreciate however is how everyone agrees that isolating their components on spikes/racks/stands etc/ improves the sound of the system particularly the focus and clarity of images and then think that laying the wire on the ground where it is then affected by vibration isn't affected by the same vibrations. Mechanical vibration effects all components and that includes wire and cables.
Speed, they do that to sell them. I'm not, nor do I want to be an engineer. I just listen to things and if I like them and I can afford, I purchase. I finally got power cords for the first time once I heard the Dragon and Hurricane. They made such a positive difference, that my wife asked what I had purchased. She didn't see any new boxes, so she wasn't able to figure it out (I use plants to hide cables and outlets along with defusing the sound on the sides of the TV and a few other places). Cheap and helps the room.
I also was with Garth Powell when he the top three cables in prototype form. We all played with them, including various connectors. I promise you that we all heard the same differences. Subtle for sure, but they were very real. He has measurements for everything he does. I'm sure you and others may try and poke holes, which is your prerogative, but I trust my ears. As for the topic at hand, I was thinking about getting a set for the component end as I plug them all into a Niagara and don't need it for that. Also the cable running from the Niagara into the wall is fully supported by the wood blocks I made and it took the stress off both plugs.
Of course not. There are lot's of bad audiophile cables out there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ctsooner
Well NO.Quote:
Originally Posted by BendingWave
Only some audiophiles think that.
It's just turntables, loudspeakers, vacuum tubes and components with moving parts (fans, hard-drives & CD players) that need to be concerned with vibrations.
Thanks Speed. I actually changed my post as I read it adn it didn't sound nice. Sorry if you took it the wrong way. the problem when we discuss digital is that there are too many variables and right now, I bet we can't even understand fully what they all may be. As I've posted in this thread or another one, I've heard the same DAC sound different in two different outlets in my room. I had the Electrican pull two separated dedicated outlets that have individual earth grounds when they built my townhouse. He didn't charge me anything extra, so I thought it would be fun to have. The same DAC sounded a bit different on the dedicated one, the circuit that the lights and other things are on. Using the Niagara conditioner (or whatever Garth calls, it, lol) made a huge difference adn was best on all set ups. It really shined when I put it on one of the dedicated outlets and then put the power amps on the other one without any conditioner.Quote:
Originally Posted by Speedskater
Again, I don't understand any of it. I also use an EMO medical grade isolator in-between two Wireworld Platinum cat8 ethernet cords for my servers connection to the net (I can also go fully stealth and not have it on the net at all). I noticed a substantial difference doing this compared to no isolation.
No that is not a fact. YOU MAY NOT BE CONCERNED that does not make everyone not concerned. The internet is full of ONE man surveys . Please don't make generalizations that are not fact based. You have your opinion but you do not speak for the majority. Every show I do and go to I see EVERY single room addressing these issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by Speedskater
. Every High end manufacturer I am aware of is very concerned with mechanical vibration. CH Precision for example goes to great pains to make sure their products and structural sound and mechanical isolated from vibration.
If a tube product needs isolation why doesn't a solid state Speed? All circuit boards are subject to it.
OK, show me the facts!Quote:
Originally Posted by BendingWave
Now that some high-tech cell-phones have accelerometers. You can add that into the audio measurements and O-scope traces.
Wow I just did Skater.Quote:
Originally Posted by Speedskater
There isn't one manufacturer of high end audio products that doesn't address mechanical vibration in their products.
It is evident in amps, pre- amps, transports, speakers, cables etc.
You are just like many on the internet that when you don't agree everyone else is wrong.
What cell phones have to do with this is beyond me. I don't know of any manufacturer that does NOT address this.
I speak from experience not from opinion. I guess these companies are all incorrect and you are right.
I am not trying to argue with you just make a point that it is important and does effect the result. If you don't agree that is your prerogative however not everything can be effectively measured or understood through measurements at least at this time.
Actually I asked two well known designers about this topic and they said OF COURSE they address it. They address it in every aspect of their designs. The boards are as mechanically isolated as they are able to get them and they also chose their feed specifically for the cabinet they are using. Different materials etc for their CNC cabinets and different ones for their folded metal/steel plate cabinets. Different resonance I assume. I know that when I change out footers on my amps, DAC and server, there are sound differences.
You just need good ears and a high Rez system to hear things.
Something new from NCF Booster family - Brace Power Connector Damping Support
https://www.audioshark.org/attachmen...id=27050&stc=1https://www.audioshark.org/attachmen...id=27051&stc=1https://www.audioshark.org/attachmen...id=27052&stc=1https://www.audioshark.org/attachmen...id=27053&stc=1https://www.audioshark.org/attachmen...id=27054&stc=1https://www.audioshark.org/attachmen...id=27055&stc=1
How much for the power connector dampening supports?
I found double for 205$ - linkQuote:
Originally Posted by mep
PreciselyQuote:
Originally Posted by BendingWave
And it costs nothing to make such a simple experience as this
https://www.audioshark.org/attachmen...id=27057&stc=1
I'm going to start selling audiophile worry beads and there will be a bead for every audiophile angst. The worry beads will be a very long string due to all the different audiophile angst that looms out there. Of course the beads will be cryo treated and damped in order to prevent any sort of resonance and to ensure their clarity of thought.
:congrats:...Quote:
Originally Posted by mep
How much Mark? :lol:
$100 per bead and a bargain at that Mike!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ritmo
It's amazing that someone can write such a long review about an audio product that doesn't do anything.
I’m looking to obtain one and have it on my someday list, I am not interested if it would do anything to sound, but more so for helping support the power cable coming out the preamp that sits up I’m guessing 4”.
Furutech is a top shelf maker in my book.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
Are you sure ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Speedskater
Do you have test one ?
Yon don't know what you lose...
I have bought 3 Furutech NCF Booster and 6 Furutech NCF Booster signal.
NCF Booster are with preamplifier, amplifier and DAC.
NCF Booster signal are with speaker cables : 3 by cable.
This is a great improvement in my system.
Sound is more accuracy, more warm, more 3D...
I don't believe it.
I will buy more Furutech NCF Booster.
Difficult to believe me, I know...
I hesitate two years to buy them...Big mistake because big sound with this Furutech Booster...
Now, I have them one month ago.
3 per speaker cable, 1 for the preamplifier, 1 for the amplifier and 1 for the home theater preamplifier.
first test :
1 per speaker cable : sound was improved, more accuracy...
second test :
2 per speaker cable : second NCF Booster signal is in the middle of the speaker cable
No change ????
So second NCF Booster signal is just under loudspeaker connectors : sound was improved too..a little more 3D
third test :
1 NCF Booster on the preamplifier : big improvement, sound are clearer and warmer, a little more bass
2 NCF Booster signal per speaker cable
4th test :
1 NCF Booster on the preamplifier
2 NCF Booster signal per speaker cable
+ 1 NCF Booster on the amplifier : vocals are better in place, I can say that with Gospel CD...
The backing vocals are well behind the lead singer and the lead singer is well in the center of the two speakers, which was not the case before.
+ 2 NCF Booster signal per speaker cable just under the amplifie connector
5th test :
3 per speaker cable, 1 for the preamplifier, 1 for the amplifier and 1 for the home theater preamplifier.
For the Hifi, differences are present, we can listen some improvements in all domain, voices seem more naturel, but the big big difference is with the home theater.
On the 4K Bohemian Rhapsody, at the final of the movie, clearly, my friend and me are very surprised. It's not a litte improvement, but a big improvement ! Queen is in the room, voice are very very naturel.
Feels like at the concert, a feeling that I hadn't had before.
Do you believe I am crazy ?
Test them...You don't believe you will listen with this little accessories...
Hope this help !
This time Furutech went deeper - NCF Clear Line
https://soundrebels.com/wp-content/u..._Line-0007.jpg
Did anyone try the NCF Clear Line?