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Wow
Not much else to say.
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What a dream system! I love Audio Note and Kondo gear, so this setup must sound very musical :audiophile:.
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Hmm...looks like my dealer's place. Must go down and take a listen. If sold, they must be running it in for the owner.
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didn't realize each Trio comes in a single crate - must be huge!
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Omg [emoji44]. Drool 🤤
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I have not yet had the chance to listen to the Trio's yet, but I am really impressed by the Duo XD when they are correctly set up...
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BjornW
I have not yet had the chance to listen to the Trio's yet, but I am really impressed by the Duo XD when they are correctly set up...
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No arguments here! [emoji846]
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Oh gosh , AG has made a mistake with the delivery address.
It should come to me:)
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Had a quick listen today. It was only day 2, so not broken in at all. Plus, they were not in their final position yet.
Still, with the front of the basshorns about 6 foot from the rear wall and the listening position about 9 foot away, the Trios sounded very open with no sense that the sound was emanating from the speakers.
They were (not) surprisingly, more coherent than the DUO XD and UNO XD in the same room with the same/similar equipment (Ongaku/Audionote).
What was uncommon for horns was the sheer sense of depth, where the soundstage / solo singer appeared to be way back where the basshorns were placed. So, you were drawn into the music rather than the sound being in your face / forward.
It does seem to make a case for subs and main speakers to be separately positioned for the ideal bass / imaging / tonality as well as for subs enhancing the sense of space and depth.
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On a working visit to Singapore, I had a quick listen also and totally agree. I'm a big fan of horns done right & the sense of space, purity and just overall rightness of the Trio speakers with bass horn were at another level. The system disappeared and revealed the music to an extant that is often over-hyped in written reviews but in this case made a believer of me. I'm not usually a big 'sound stage guy', preferring tonal correctness and dynamic response to give me the sensation of live music but this was holodeck-like and added tremendously to the illusion of real performers/instruments in real space.
Big shout out to the guys for the warm welcome and willingness to demonstrate the system for me. Apparently Avantgarde are doing the calibration of the bass horns this week so looking forward to dropping in again next week when I'm back in town for another listen.
PS I'm not a forum lurker or poster but felt this system was of such a level that it deserved special mention. Also when I was there the Audio Note Level 3 components including Conquest 300B amps were doing a superb job driving the speakers.
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Welcome to the forum Musicluva63, thank you for joining.
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Great to hear Musicluva63.
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Are there any places to hear Trios in the US?
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Are there any places to hear Trios in the US?
Yes. Tampa, FL. My client has graciously agreed to be my Trio XD demo location.
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Last week the Avantgarde Duo Mezzo XD arrived and even though I like the Duo XD a lot, this was a step up in performance!https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...be8d1319be.jpg
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WOW!!! Congrats!! What are you using for electronics and cables?
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We have tried a lot of different electronics - Leema power amps, EAR, Lamm. Cables the same thing - the new Shunyata Delta SP, Jorma cables, TiGlow...
So far is my favourite the Lamm with Shunyata...
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We have tried a lot of different electronics - Leema power amps, EAR, Lamm. Cables the same thing - the new Shunyata Delta SP, Jorma cables, TiGlow...
So far is my favourite the Lamm with Shunyata...
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Hi, which Lamm model?
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The M1.2 Reference...
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In the beginning of June we'll be visiting Avantgarde in Germany. Will be interesting to listen to the Trio's[emoji6]
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In the beginning of June we'll be visiting Avantgarde in Germany. Will be interesting to listen to the Trio's[emoji6]
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That sounds like fun. My client her in Tampa will be receiving his Trio XD's today! Very exciting stuff.
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In the beginning of June we'll be visiting Avantgarde in Germany. Will be interesting to listen to the Trio's[emoji6]
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I have been there twice, and at one time another had bought along the Airtight 300b integrated and the Audionote 300b integrated to compare with their class A. I found the Airtight and their own amps the best. The trios there have a lot of space so sound brilliant.
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Mike - what subwoofers did your customer settle for?
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bonzo
I have been there twice, and at one time another had bought along the Airtight 300b integrated and the Audionote 300b integrated to compare with their class A. I found the Airtight and their own amps the best. The trios there have a lot of space so sound brilliant.
Bonzo, that's great news!
Back when I visited the Avantgarde factory several times before & while I was the distributor, their demos (of each model) were very disappointing, as were their show demos.
IMO, of course.
If I hadn't already set-up several pairs and understood what they could do, Avantgarde-USA would never have happened.
I wouldn't be surprised if the huge demo improvement is due to the efforts of Armin Krauss...
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Mike - what subwoofers did your customer settle for?
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231's. I tried hard to talk him into bass horns, but he went with the 231's.
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231's. I tried hard to talk him into bass horns, but he went with the 231's.
How many pairs?
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How many pairs?
Two. I tried hard to convince him to go with the bass horns. In the previous generations, the 225's were good and preferred, but AG said the new bass horns far surpass the 231's. The 231's replace the previous 225. Anyway, he can always upgrade later. Regardless, I'm sure it will sound incredible and who knows, the 231's may end up being perfect.
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Jim,
After all your (former) years with AGs - what were your favorite electronics pairings?
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Back when I visited the Avantgarde factory several times before & while I was the distributor, their demos (of each model) were very disappointing, as were their show demos.
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Bonzo, that's great news!
Back when I visited the Avantgarde factory several times before & while I was the distributor, their demos (of each model) were very disappointing, as were their show demos.
IMO, of course.
If I hadn't already set-up several pairs and understood what they could do, Avantgarde-USA would never have happened.
I wouldn't be surprised if the huge demo improvement is due to the efforts of Armin Krauss...
Armin is a great demonstrator! We've had the fortune to have him with us a couple of times[emoji2]
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Bonzo, that's great news!
Back when I visited the Avantgarde factory several times before & while I was the distributor, their demos (of each model) were very disappointing, as were their show demos.
IMO, of course.
If I hadn't already set-up several pairs and understood what they could do, Avantgarde-USA would never have happened.
I wouldn't be surprised if the huge demo improvement is due to the efforts of Armin Krauss...
Hi they don't have any isolation, on either the electronics or the speakers, and all that can be set up better. But what I like about it is exactly that. Plump the speakers down, the electronics on top of each other (literally), and I enjoy the system. I heard in Sound galleries Monaco in a 6m * 5m place and it sounded great with an Oppo and Tom Evans (he normally uses audiopax). That is why I like (good) horns, put them down and they work as long as you have some space.
I respect Armin, he really was honest about his opinions
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bonzo
I have been there twice, and at one time another had bought along the Airtight 300b integrated and the Audionote 300b integrated to compare with their class A. I found the Airtight and their own amps the best. The trios there have a lot of space so sound brilliant.
Before I purchased my Duo Mezzo XD which replaced Duo Omega G2 in my system we have payed a visit together with my wife to AG HQ in order to evaluate differences between Trios with 231 subs and Duo Mezzo.
I had with me around 10 cds ( part of them xrcd by JVC) with the music I was familiar with.
The amps for Duo Mezzo and Trios were AG XA pre + power amps.
We have been impressed by the coherency of Duo Mezzo presentation and disapointed by Trios with 231 subs.
Finally we listened to Trios with 6 basshorns- better than with 231 subs , but did not convince me , for us Duo Mezzo have better price/SQ relation.
Then I ordered Mezzo XD series because of very enthusiastic Mike's opinion .
I do not regret, it' a real leap forward.
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Marslo
Before I purchased my Duo Mezzo XD which replaced Duo Omega G2 in my system we have payed a visit together with my wife to AG HQ in order to evaluate differences between Trios with 231 subs and Duo Mezzo.
I had with me around 10 cds ( part of them xrcd by JVC) with the music I was familiar with.
The amps for Duo Mezzo and Trios were AG XA pre + power amps.
We have been impressed by the coherency of Duo Mezzo presentation and disapointed by Trios with 231 subs.
Finally we listened to Trios with 6 basshorns- better than with 231 subs , but did not convince me , for us Duo Mezzo have better price/SQ relation.
Then I ordered Mezzo XD series because of very enthusiastic Mike's opinion .
I do not regret, it' a real leap forward.
Interesting. I compared the 6 subs to 2 subs but could not make out much difference, but loved the bass horns. I think they are key for me.
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From what I understand the Duo Primo XD is a good alternative for the one who do not have room for the Trio...
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Mike
Nice!
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Flying Saucers everywhere ....
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Mike, are these for your house? I have never heard high end horns. Klipsh back in the 60/70's, but never since.
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Ctsooner
Mike, are these for your house? I have never heard high end horns. Klipsh back in the 60/70's, but never since.
Clients.
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Been there, done that, lots of times... :congrats:
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