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    ARC REF 10 (Audio Research Reference 10) (mini) Review

    Well, I have had my Audio Research Reference 10 and I am fast approaching the magical 600 hour mark. I can honestly say, it is one of the single best audio purchases I have ever made.

    In the beginning, the ARC REF 10 had some good days and average days (but never bad days) as it was breaking in. Sometimes, I could literally hear it hit the next level in performance, I would click over to the hours meter and see "103" - and know that the ARC manual was right. At about 100 hours something did happen. It's quite amazing to be honest how gear - especially tube gear - has to break in.

    After about 450 hours, the preamp rarely had any more "average" days and sonically produced fabulous music every time I turned it on. The ability of the preamp to be seamlessly transparent from top to bottom, with such lucidity and resolve, is just amazing. Fed a good source (such as DSD or Vinyl), the REF 10 has the ability to provide three-dimentional imaging like no other preamp I have heard. The ARC REF 10 also truly lacks any coloration and provides an outstanding degree of punch, speed and articulation. The REF 10 resolves timbres in such a way, that acoustic guitar, piano and voices sounded more real than with any other preamp I've had in my system.

    Overall, at the magical 600 hour mark, the REF 10 has exceeded my wildest expectations of what a preamp can do in a system. I am certainly now, more than ever, a believer in the value of a great preamp and a believer in the new wave of ARC gear - which to me - sounds richer, fuller and more realistic in timber than with previous ARC preamps I've heard - and come to think of it - any other preamp I've heard.

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    Re: ARC REF 10 (Audio Research Reference 10) (mini) Review

    If there ever was a piece of reference gear the REF10 has to be one. What is amazing is how such an old company, as far as audio is concerned, continues to push the envelope with their products, not only in sound quality but in terms of style and technology. I could see myself having an all ARC system in the future and being happy for many years.

    Mike, have you owned any of their other preamps?
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    Re: ARC REF 10 (Audio Research Reference 10) (mini) Review

    Quote Originally Posted by dlb2 View Post
    If there ever was a piece of reference gear the REF10 has to be one. What is amazing is how such an old company, as far as audio is concerned, continues to push the envelope with their products, not only in sound quality but in terms of style and technology. I could see myself having an all ARC system in the future and being happy for many years.

    Mike, have you owned any of their other preamps?
    Yes. ARC REF 3. Had it paired with a Mc 352 amp. Nice sound!
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    Re: ARC REF 10 (Audio Research Reference 10) (mini) Review

    Congrats on a truly "Reference" preamp, I'm glad you're so happy with your ARC system !! And those crappy speakers you have...........lmao !!
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    Re: ARC REF 10 (Audio Research Reference 10) (mini) Review

    Quote Originally Posted by MDP View Post
    Congrats on a truly "Reference" preamp, I'm glad you're so happy with your ARC system !! And those crappy speakers you have...........lmao !!
    Tee hee.
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    Re: ARC REF 10 (Audio Research Reference 10) (mini) Review

    I looked for an emote equivalent to drooling, would have used it HERE ... I've heard nothing but great things about ARC. Hell, I'll be jumping up and down if I can pull off a LS27. I can't image what the ref 10 must sound like. A big congrats Mike.
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    Re: ARC REF 10 (Audio Research Reference 10) (mini) Review

    Quote Originally Posted by AudioExile View Post
    I looked for an emote equivalent to drooling, would have used it HERE ... I've heard nothing but great things about ARC. Hell, I'll be jumping up and down if I can pull off a LS27. I can't image what the ref 10 must sound like. A big congrats Mike.
    Thanks! I've stopped reading about other preamps....I'm D....maybe. . A friend of mine has the LS27 and loves it.
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    Great write up - congrats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dpod4 View Post
    Great write up - congrats.
    Thanks!
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    Re: ARC REF 10 (Audio Research Reference 10) (mini) Review

    Mike have you ever run your REF10 with your DS450's without the REF250's in the mix? I'm just wondering how their tube pre's work with their non-tubed amps.
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    Re: ARC REF 10 (Audio Research Reference 10) (mini) Review

    Quote Originally Posted by dlb2 View Post
    Mike have you ever run your REF10 with your DS450's without the REF250's in the mix? I'm just wondering how their tube pre's work with their non-tubed amps.
    Actually, no. I've been meaning to try it. I will and let you know. I had the ARC REF 10 with the Classe CA2300 and Pass XA160.5 and it was excellent with the Pass. I didn't love the Classe-ARC combo. It sounded ok....but just a bit of a mismatch. With the Pass on the other hand, it sounded exceptionally good.
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    Mike...congrats! It's obviously a statement preamp and I hope it graces your system for many years to come. On trying it with just the DS450s, I would venture a guesss that you will lose a bit of the magic in terms of tonal color density, image 3dness and a bit of staging 3dness. I don't think you will hear much difference in terms of resolution or dynamics. My guess is by taking the 250s out you will just get a bit leaner and bleachier tonal pallette. Of course I am just guessing but it will be interesting to hear your thoughts if you do that experiment.

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    Re: ARC REF 10 (Audio Research Reference 10) (mini) Review

    That was my guess too Cyril. The 450's are phenomenal for bass - and that's exactly all they do right now.
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    Re: ARC REF 10 (Audio Research Reference 10) (mini) Review

    I gave it a try (DS450M's) and other than the bass, I found it impossible to find one other area where the 450's outdid the 250's. Cymbals were harsh and digital sounding, the soundstage was completely flat. Voices sounded ok, but not as natural with good old tubes! The 250's just sound "real" and the 450's sounded very cold and mechanical.
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    Re: ARC REF 10 (Audio Research Reference 10) (mini) Review

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    I gave it a try (DS450M's) and other than the bass, I found it impossible to find one other area where the 450's outdid the 250's. Cymbals were harsh and digital sounding, the soundstage was completely flat. Voices sounded ok, but not as natural with good old tubes! The 250's just sound "real" and the 450's sounded very cold and mechanical.
    Wow, that was fast! Thanks for doing that Mike. I guess the REF75 is back in the lead for my ARC amp. What was I thinking about when I thought that I could give up on tubes!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dlb2 View Post
    Wow, that was fast! Thanks for doing that Mike. I guess the REF75 is back in the lead for my ARC amp. What was I thinking about when I thought that I could give up on tubes!
    Never! Tubes and vinyl forever!
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    Re: ARC REF 10 (Audio Research Reference 10) (mini) Review

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Never! Tubes and vinyl forever!
    That just makes me hungry!



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    Congrats, Mike, I'm really happy for you! Great to hear when someone finds just that right piece of gear for their system!


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    Quote Originally Posted by dlb2 View Post
    That just makes me hungry!



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    LOL! The Devialet. Oh.... The irony! I'm thinking of the Wadia Intuition (like the Devialet) for the family room system. Clean and simple = happy wife. Tubes and vinyl upstairs in the main room.
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    Quote Originally Posted by socfan12 View Post
    Congrats, Mike, I'm really happy for you! Great to hear when someone finds just that right piece of gear for their system!
    Thanks!! It really is a keeper. If anyone is in Florida - just drop me a line and come on by for a listen!
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    Re: ARC REF 10 (Audio Research Reference 10) (mini) Review

    Is REF10 the Audio Research top preamp?
    I wished I could get one !, oops I have one
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    My Preamp makes me funny, right ?


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    Re: ARC REF 10 (Audio Research Reference 10) (mini) Review

    You're funny Nelson. Giddy with ARC.
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    Re: ARC REF 10 (Audio Research Reference 10) (mini) Review

    Mike...I can only imagine how incredible the Ref10 sounds, because I am amazed by my Ref5. I got mine about the same time that you purchased yours. I have less hours on it, but it is one of my all time favorite pieces of gear. When I first put it into the system, I immediately knew that it is a system changing piece, bringing any amp that I connected it to to another level.

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    Re: ARC REF 10 (Audio Research Reference 10) (mini) Review

    Bruce,

    It there any benefit to running the gear sideways
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    Quote Originally Posted by joeinid View Post
    Bruce,

    It there any benefit to running the gear sideways
    I thought that everyone knew.....It sounds so much better if you listen while you are reclining.

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    That looks great!

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    Mike...I can only imagine how incredible the Ref10 sounds, because I am amazed by my Ref5. I got mine about the same time that you purchased yours. I have less hours on it, but it is one of my all time favorite pieces of gear. When I first put it into the system, I immediately knew that it is a system changing piece, bringing any amp that I connected it to to another level.

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    Bruce - I was all set to buy the REF5SE. It's a phenomenal preamp. Very resolving, warm without being syrupy. Dynamics are off the chart. What a great piece to build your system around......and the mc452 is no slouch either!

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    That's an old picture.

    I think He use now a REF150 with the
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    And I thought I'd heard of most of the tweaks out there! running your gear sideways - awesome

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    No no no guys you have it all wrong....

    Gravity boots, hanging upside down from ceiling is the ticket. All that extra blood rushing to the brain helps with the hearing. ImageUploadedByTapatalk 21370975438.492030.jpg

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    No no no guys you have it all wrong....

    Gravity boots, hanging upside down from ceiling is the ticket. All that extra blood rushing to the brain helps with the hearing. ImageUploadedByTapatalk 21370975438.492030.jpg
    Ha!, sounds like it's gone to your pecker....

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    Bruce, seeing how you've match your MC452 to an ARC makes me more anxious to try a ARC LS27 with my MC302. What other manufacturers did you have or demo before choosing the ARC?

    Quote Originally Posted by BruceLet View Post
    Mike...I can only imagine how incredible the Ref10 sounds, because I am amazed by my Ref5. I got mine about the same time that you purchased yours. I have less hours on it, but it is one of my all time favorite pieces of gear. When I first put it into the system, I immediately knew that it is a system changing piece, bringing any amp that I connected it to to another level.

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    Bruce, seeing how you've match your MC452 to an ARC makes me more anxious to try a ARC LS27 with my MC302. What other manufacturers did you have or demo before choosing the ARC?
    I think Mac amps with an ARC pre offers great synergy. I'm loving my Ref 5 with the Mac 601s!
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    Don't say this to nobody .....
    but Mc rules too

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    I think Mac amps with an ARC pre offers great synergy. I'm loving my Ref 5 with the Mac 601s!
    Casey - I completely agree. That wasn't always the case, but I heard some 601'a and REF5Se and was very surprised at just how good it sounded - much better than the C500 I also heard with the 601's. The 601's provide a meaty, fast sound, while the REF5SE was able to sort it all out and provide some air around the voices and instruments. Very complimentary indeed.
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    I think Mac amps with an ARC pre offers great synergy. I'm loving my Ref 5 with the Mac 601s!
    Thanks Casey. Always helps to hear from someone living the experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Casey - I completely agree. That wasn't always the case, but I heard some 601'a and REF5Se and was very surprised at just how good it sounded - much better than the C500 I also heard with the 601's. The 601's provide a meaty, fast sound, while the REF5SE was able to sort it all out and provide some air around the voices and instruments. Very complimentary indeed.
    I'm looking forward to the SE upgrade on my Ref5 later this summer...that was the timeframe estimate anyways.
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    I'm looking forward to the SE upgrade on my Ref5 later this summer...that was the timeframe estimate anyways.
    I've never had a chance to hear the REF5, but I have heard the REF5SE and was very impressed. I believe Bruce on the forum has one and he loves it. The fact that he hasn't traded it yet for something else, speaks volumes!
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    Has anyone heard the Ref 10 Phono? Thinking about possibly trying the Ref 10 Pre and Ref 10 Phono.

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    Has anyone heard the Ref 10 Phono? Thinking about possibly trying the Ref 10 Pre and Ref 10 Phono.
    I love my REF10. It adds a dimension of tonality that elevated my system. My REF2SE Phonostage is great too. I'm sure the ref10 phono is outstanding.
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    The REf10 Phono and RE10 will be a match made in heaven
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dpod4 View Post
    No no no guys you have it all wrong....

    Gravity boots, hanging upside down from ceiling is the ticket. All that extra blood rushing to the brain helps with the hearing. ImageUploadedByTapatalk 21370975438.492030.jpg
    OK! Really old thread, but I had to chime in because that was once one of my fantasies... A hot coed, in a nurses outfit, upside down... in gravity boots. [insert 'yummy' emoticon]

    Just trolling around reading y'alls thoughts on the Ref10

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    I had the ARC 40th Anniversary Preamp and traded it for the Ref. 10. Let me begin by saying that the 40th was absolutely incredible. The best Preamp I have ever heard or owned, until now. I don't know how the boys at ARC could have bettered it, but they have. The Ref. 10 has better bass delivery and control; the mid's are richer, fuller and as real as I've experienced; and the soundstage deeper and wider (who'd a thought that was possible). The Ref. 10 has also performed better during the break-in period. I'm up to 200 hours and loving every minute. Like the 40th, the Ref. 10 loves to play with my Ayre MX-R's. It's a great pairing. Thanks for your review Mike. I concur.

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    Congrats Ray! The REF10 is amazing.

    Welcome to the forum.

    As Nelson would say, ARC4LIFE.

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    ARC4LIFE !!
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    Quote Originally Posted by highEndguy View Post
    ARC4LIFE !!
    Hoping someday you come back to us Mike
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