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    Roger Sanders Preamp or Nad M12?

    Hello all i purchased the magtech and rogers preamp yesterday.i get a 30 day in home trial. I was told while the magtech amps are amazing the sander preamp may not be the best bang for my buck. i currently don't have a DAC and was wondering if it would be a good option to get the NAD M12 instead. Any thoughts on what unit would give me the best overall versatility and sound. i would also like a preamp that can do both MM and MC

    http://sanderssoundsystems.com/products/preamplifier

    https://nadelectronics.com/product/m...al-preamp-dac/

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    Re: Roger Sanders Preamp or Nad M12?

    I see your post on Page 1 of New Posts despite being dated 30 January 2020. Still no reply.

    Which did you go for are you still waiting for suggestions from owners? I have the NAD M12 and used to have the Sanders Magtech power amp. The Magtech was only bought because I was planning on upgrading my 17 year old Avantgarde Unos for Martin Logan 13As, but the Unos sounded so much better, I decided to sell the new MLs - and the Magtech.

    Back to the M12. I love the way this preamp works and its flexibility. Loads of analogue and digital inputs with even more available if you add a module. All balanced and with a BluOS board available if you need streaming of Qobuz, Tidal, etc. The module is Roon Ready and MQA is supported. Sounds and looks great too.
    Sources - NAD M50.2 (streamer, CD player, CD ripper, hard drive music store)
    Amplification - NAD M33, NAD M12, Consonance Cyber 845 monoblocs
    Speakers - Avantgarde Duo XD, Avantgarde Duo (2006 - aesthetically modified), Martin Logan Expression 13A (now sold)

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    Re: Roger Sanders Preamp or Nad M12?

    Remember years ago thinking about a magtech for my logans . never got round to trying one

    personally i prefer separate dacs to amps , i think it gives far more versatility . you can change your dac and upgrade it . naim took out dacs from thier amps . keep it simple
    1]bel canto pre 3 vbs ice power amps . rotel cd , modright modded jolida dac 2] tannoy eaton legacy 2]bel canto pre 3vbs BC ref 500s black ice modded dac , marantz sa8005, reference fidelity impulse Ta`us horns

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    Re: Roger Sanders Preamp or Nad M12?

    Quote Originally Posted by hifinutt View Post
    personally i prefer separate dacs to amps , i think it gives far more versatility . you can change your dac and upgrade it . naim took out dacs from thier amps . keep it simple
    Only because they found that most people prefered EVERYTHING in one box, hence their successful all-in-ones - streamer, DAC, pre, power and even RC, plus of course the huge saving in cables - a horrid necessity of separates that NEVER improve the sound. They still offer separates but I'm sure these now represent a small proportion of their sales.
    Sources - NAD M50.2 (streamer, CD player, CD ripper, hard drive music store)
    Amplification - NAD M33, NAD M12, Consonance Cyber 845 monoblocs
    Speakers - Avantgarde Duo XD, Avantgarde Duo (2006 - aesthetically modified), Martin Logan Expression 13A (now sold)

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    Re: Roger Sanders Preamp or Nad M12?

    yes good point here here .... ps wish i had room for your logans !!
    1]bel canto pre 3 vbs ice power amps . rotel cd , modright modded jolida dac 2] tannoy eaton legacy 2]bel canto pre 3vbs BC ref 500s black ice modded dac , marantz sa8005, reference fidelity impulse Ta`us horns

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    Re: Roger Sanders Preamp or Nad M12?

    I loved the Sanders Magtech power amp but didn't like the Sanders pre-amp much at all. To my ears the combination was sterile and musically uninvolving. YMMV.
    Borresen Acoustics Loudspeakers, Borresen Model 01 Compact monitor loudspeakers with Ansuz Darkz T2s Supreme resonance control, Audio Video Manufaktur GmbH (AVM) Inspiration amplifier & streamer, Innuos Zen MKII music server, Ansuz Acoustics cables & accessories. Please visit my system thread hosted on Audioshark for more details. Disclosure: The author is materially connected to Ansuz, Aavik & Borresen Acoustics via friendship with an owner.

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