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    Hattor Pre-amp Inbound

    I finally got notice (UPS Tracking) that my new Hattor pre-amplifier has been shipped from Poland. I have no idea how long it takes to ship from Poland to California, but at least I know it is done and on its way .
    Core: Hattor "The Big"; T+A AMP 8; AudioQuest Niagara 1000
    Analog: Rega RP8; Rega Ania Pro; SimAudio MOON 310LP; Record Doctor VI
    Digital: T+A DAC 8 DSD; Falcon NW PC; Roon & HQPlayer; W4S Recovery
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    Other: Astell&Kern AK240; McIntosh MR7083; Oppo BDP105


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    Re: Hattor Pre-amp Inbound

    I had a chance to spend an afternoon with the Hattor Integrated driving Pure Audio Projects, awesome little combo.

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    Re: Hattor Pre-amp Inbound

    Congratulations Randy!

    Can’t wait for your opinion on it.
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    Re: Hattor Pre-amp Inbound

    Not familiar with Hattor - I found their web-site.

    Nice design, with options.

    Not clear though if it’s a two box solution?




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    Re: Hattor Pre-amp Inbound

    I believe the Hattor use separate power supplies for all of their pre-amps!

    From what I have researched they are supposed to be very pure uncolored gear to the max. Cosmetically it should be a great match to my T+A.

    I guess my system is going to mainly European design .... T+A, Germany; Hattor, Poland; KEF & Rega, England .
    Core: Hattor "The Big"; T+A AMP 8; AudioQuest Niagara 1000
    Analog: Rega RP8; Rega Ania Pro; SimAudio MOON 310LP; Record Doctor VI
    Digital: T+A DAC 8 DSD; Falcon NW PC; Roon & HQPlayer; W4S Recovery
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    Other: Astell&Kern AK240; McIntosh MR7083; Oppo BDP105


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    Re: Hattor Pre-amp Inbound

    The Khozmo stepped attenuators they use are a thing of beauty.
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    Re: Hattor Pre-amp Inbound

    Arek Kallas owns and runs both Khozmo and Hattor. Hattor is his higher level product line! Hattor "The Big" uses two in a dual mono configuration!
    Core: Hattor "The Big"; T+A AMP 8; AudioQuest Niagara 1000
    Analog: Rega RP8; Rega Ania Pro; SimAudio MOON 310LP; Record Doctor VI
    Digital: T+A DAC 8 DSD; Falcon NW PC; Roon & HQPlayer; W4S Recovery
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    Other: Astell&Kern AK240; McIntosh MR7083; Oppo BDP105


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    Re: Hattor Pre-amp Inbound

    Quote Originally Posted by UltraFast69 View Post
    Not familiar with Hattor - I found their web-site.

    Nice design, with options.

    Not clear though if it’s a two box solution?




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    Looks nice, congrats.


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    Re: Hattor Pre-amp Inbound

    A bit frustrated waiting, but I guess that is how it goes with small companies. Arek said he was shipping and created UPS label on Saturday; I did receive an e-mail yesterday from him saying he was finishing it up and would be shipping today.

    Oh another note, the new Rega table arrived and is setup and waiting . Unfortunately I cannot listen to it until the Hattor arrives (no analog inputs on the T+A DAC).

    UPDATE:
    It is finally listed as being picked up by UPS. So it is actually on its way.... yeah!!!
    Core: Hattor "The Big"; T+A AMP 8; AudioQuest Niagara 1000
    Analog: Rega RP8; Rega Ania Pro; SimAudio MOON 310LP; Record Doctor VI
    Digital: T+A DAC 8 DSD; Falcon NW PC; Roon & HQPlayer; W4S Recovery
    Speakers
    : KEF R700; Elac Debut Sub 3010; Audeze LCD-i4
    Other: Astell&Kern AK240; McIntosh MR7083; Oppo BDP105


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    Painful situation, bummer Hattor Pre-amp Inbound. Know the feeling.

    Audiophiles waiting for delivery are like kids who know there is candy in the cupboard, but mommy has the key.


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    Re: Hattor Pre-amp Inbound

    Congratulation, you will enjoy it. I had a passive version and how own an active version which I can change from active to passive on the fly.

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    Re: Hattor Pre-amp Inbound

    I just checked the tracking. Shipped today, scheduled to be delivered on Friday.... really? I can't even get things from LA in 2 days but I can get it from Poland in 2 days .
    Core: Hattor "The Big"; T+A AMP 8; AudioQuest Niagara 1000
    Analog: Rega RP8; Rega Ania Pro; SimAudio MOON 310LP; Record Doctor VI
    Digital: T+A DAC 8 DSD; Falcon NW PC; Roon & HQPlayer; W4S Recovery
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    Other: Astell&Kern AK240; McIntosh MR7083; Oppo BDP105


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    Re: Hattor Pre-amp Inbound

    The pre-amp is finally travelling . It is in Germany now, but delivery is now not until Monday .... I was hoping to have it for the weekend but what can you do .
    Core: Hattor "The Big"; T+A AMP 8; AudioQuest Niagara 1000
    Analog: Rega RP8; Rega Ania Pro; SimAudio MOON 310LP; Record Doctor VI
    Digital: T+A DAC 8 DSD; Falcon NW PC; Roon & HQPlayer; W4S Recovery
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    Other: Astell&Kern AK240; McIntosh MR7083; Oppo BDP105


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    Re: Hattor Pre-amp Inbound

    The Hattor was just delivered at work! So I will hook it up tonight and if all goes well, will actually be able to also listen to the new turntable that has been sitting there taunting me for the past week .
    Core: Hattor "The Big"; T+A AMP 8; AudioQuest Niagara 1000
    Analog: Rega RP8; Rega Ania Pro; SimAudio MOON 310LP; Record Doctor VI
    Digital: T+A DAC 8 DSD; Falcon NW PC; Roon & HQPlayer; W4S Recovery
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    Other: Astell&Kern AK240; McIntosh MR7083; Oppo BDP105


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    Re: Hattor Pre-amp Inbound

    Sounds so nice you had to say it twice!

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    Re: Hattor Pre-amp Inbound

    Hehe... once in a while the forum glitches ... Any chance you can delete that duplicate? Can't wait to listen to it!
    Core: Hattor "The Big"; T+A AMP 8; AudioQuest Niagara 1000
    Analog: Rega RP8; Rega Ania Pro; SimAudio MOON 310LP; Record Doctor VI
    Digital: T+A DAC 8 DSD; Falcon NW PC; Roon & HQPlayer; W4S Recovery
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    Other: Astell&Kern AK240; McIntosh MR7083; Oppo BDP105


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    Re: Hattor Pre-amp Inbound

    Listening to it now. So far I am very impressed. It definitely needs a little break in. Just a very little brightness that smooths with a little time (with every new piece I have had). Very accurate, amazing sound stage! I hear digital sounding with improved sound stage and very very tight bass. With new Rega table... it is just plain holy shit!!!
    Core: Hattor "The Big"; T+A AMP 8; AudioQuest Niagara 1000
    Analog: Rega RP8; Rega Ania Pro; SimAudio MOON 310LP; Record Doctor VI
    Digital: T+A DAC 8 DSD; Falcon NW PC; Roon & HQPlayer; W4S Recovery
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    Other: Astell&Kern AK240; McIntosh MR7083; Oppo BDP105


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    Nice, I loved my hattor mini active preamp when I had it. The fast response of the remote for volume changes was so good it was addictive

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    Re: Hattor Pre-amp Inbound

    I like the back to basic design. The remote functions work perfect and it appears to give me everything I want in a pre-amp. Just letting it settle in a bit more. I really like that it uses an external power supply. It also cosmetically matches my T+A gear. It pretty much is checking all the boxes so far!
    Core: Hattor "The Big"; T+A AMP 8; AudioQuest Niagara 1000
    Analog: Rega RP8; Rega Ania Pro; SimAudio MOON 310LP; Record Doctor VI
    Digital: T+A DAC 8 DSD; Falcon NW PC; Roon & HQPlayer; W4S Recovery
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    Other: Astell&Kern AK240; McIntosh MR7083; Oppo BDP105


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    Re: Hattor Pre-amp Inbound

    The Hattor appears to be smoothing out nicely. I was noticing last evening just how smooth and accurate it was sounding. Sound stage is to die for!!! Over all sound performance, at this point, seems to be very similar to the Stage 2. Smooth, uncolored, accurate, fantastic sound stage, great bass control!

    I really like the hook ups and controls. You can get any configuration of XLR and RCAs that you like from the five inputs. I have three XLR and two RCA inputs, and two outputs each for both XLR and RCAs for the four that are included.

    The control knobs are large and nice. The volume numbers are large and easy to see from across the room. I like that the remote is metal and can control both left and right in unison or individually (balance control). Also input up or down, mute, power, and a display dim (4 levels) all from the nice little metal remote.

    I also love that a separate power box is utilized!

    So far all good with the Hattor!
    Core: Hattor "The Big"; T+A AMP 8; AudioQuest Niagara 1000
    Analog: Rega RP8; Rega Ania Pro; SimAudio MOON 310LP; Record Doctor VI
    Digital: T+A DAC 8 DSD; Falcon NW PC; Roon & HQPlayer; W4S Recovery
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    Other: Astell&Kern AK240; McIntosh MR7083; Oppo BDP105


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    Re: Hattor Pre-amp Inbound

    I have now had the Hattor for a long enough time to get a good feel for it. At this point I would say it is a keeper. Flexible hookups, easy controls without adding extra nonsense. Sounds beautiful and adds nothing. Exactly what I loved about the Stage 2 but matches my system better. Very nice unit, highly recommended for anyone looking for a preamp that does what it is supposed to and nothing else!
    Core: Hattor "The Big"; T+A AMP 8; AudioQuest Niagara 1000
    Analog: Rega RP8; Rega Ania Pro; SimAudio MOON 310LP; Record Doctor VI
    Digital: T+A DAC 8 DSD; Falcon NW PC; Roon & HQPlayer; W4S Recovery
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    Other: Astell&Kern AK240; McIntosh MR7083; Oppo BDP105


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    Re: Hattor Pre-amp Inbound

    Congratulations Randy, great news.

    I still love my Wyred stage 2. I’m sure your Hattor is amazing too.
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    Re: Hattor Pre-amp Inbound

    Awesome Randy
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    Re: Hattor Pre-amp Inbound

    Quote Originally Posted by joeinid View Post
    Congratulations Randy, great news.

    I still love my Wyred stage 2. I’m sure your Hattor is amazing too.
    Yup, more similarities than differences accept the Hattor does not have the active stage standard (but that is available as an option including a tube active stage). I would say the Stage 2 and the Hattor are the best sounding pre-amps I have owned! Everything that I loved about the Stage 2 but it matches the T+A in my system much better, and I really love the little remote and separate power supply!
    Core: Hattor "The Big"; T+A AMP 8; AudioQuest Niagara 1000
    Analog: Rega RP8; Rega Ania Pro; SimAudio MOON 310LP; Record Doctor VI
    Digital: T+A DAC 8 DSD; Falcon NW PC; Roon & HQPlayer; W4S Recovery
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    Other: Astell&Kern AK240; McIntosh MR7083; Oppo BDP105


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    Re: Hattor Pre-amp Inbound

    Well I decided to go all out. Arek is allowing me to trade up so the AMRG Trans resistor version which will be sent by the end of the week!!! According to Arek the Takman REX and REY resistors are a bit more detailed then the standard Vishay resistor version. He told me the AMRG is warmer, richer sounding which is right up my alley. All around a very nice improvement which I think should make this as good sounding pre-amp as I could want!!!

    I know quality, solid case (Arek offered for me to look inside) is as solid as I have seen. Nicely made metal, nice metal remote, top quality parts, external power supply, etc. Very good stuff!
    Core: Hattor "The Big"; T+A AMP 8; AudioQuest Niagara 1000
    Analog: Rega RP8; Rega Ania Pro; SimAudio MOON 310LP; Record Doctor VI
    Digital: T+A DAC 8 DSD; Falcon NW PC; Roon & HQPlayer; W4S Recovery
    Speakers
    : KEF R700; Elac Debut Sub 3010; Audeze LCD-i4
    Other: Astell&Kern AK240; McIntosh MR7083; Oppo BDP105


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    Re: Hattor Pre-amp Inbound

    So Arek built a new AMRG version of the pre-amp and burnt it in over the weekend. He shipped it out from Poland on Tuesday. I just got word that it is being delivered today. Two days to deliver from Poland to California. I can't even get something from LA in two days .... amazing .
    Core: Hattor "The Big"; T+A AMP 8; AudioQuest Niagara 1000
    Analog: Rega RP8; Rega Ania Pro; SimAudio MOON 310LP; Record Doctor VI
    Digital: T+A DAC 8 DSD; Falcon NW PC; Roon & HQPlayer; W4S Recovery
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    : KEF R700; Elac Debut Sub 3010; Audeze LCD-i4
    Other: Astell&Kern AK240; McIntosh MR7083; Oppo BDP105


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    Re: Hattor Pre-amp Inbound

    The step up Hattor did arrive today. This is Arek's top of the line piece with the AMRG Trans resistors. I listened for a couple hours tonight. I know it has some run in to do (like 100 hours or so), but my initial impressions are very positive. The standard model impressed me, this one even more so.

    Listening a bit longer tonight I got a clearer picture of some of the things I am hearing. Very detailed but not analytic, if that makes sense. More air around the instruments, really really solid and consistent sound stage. I did not hear the typical image wandering that some equipment does. It seemed like a very deep depth to the sound stage. Very impressive indeed. I think if you like other highly rated passives such as the Wyred 4 Sound STP-SE Stage 2 then you will be very happy with this. Probably to early to say but I think I might like this better than the Stage 2! Very musical, even more so then the standard Vishay model. I can only look forward to it getting even better. If it does continue to improve this will be my go to pre-amp for sure!

    Pretty awesome pre-amp; all of the inputs and outputs I could possibly want. Arek custom builds whatever configuration of XLR/RCA you want. I had mine built with 3x Stereo XLR and 2x Stereo RCA inputs; 2x XLR stereo and 2x RCA stereo outputs. External power supply, nifty metal remote, very nice solid metal case, dual mono, shipped in a flight case... and what a deal. Under 2 grand for the top model and in my view I would put the sound against virtually anything out there... the Stage 2 is commonly consider one of the best giant killers out there... at half the price this is simply amazing.

    I also had Arek put black knobs on this one. It looks much better with the T+A gear! Very nice match... and it literally took two days to ship it from Poland.... holy cow that surprised me. Oh, it took him about a week to build it.
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    Ahoj Randy,
    děkuji za váš příspěvek, Big Hattor duální mono AMRG Trans pasivní / aktivní právě teď Arek budovy pro mě, který jste obdrželi příští týden, těším se na poslech

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    Randy, what type of xlr cables with hattor are you using ?

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    Congratulations Randy- hope it meets all your expectations !!

    Enjoy.

    A Picture would be nice...

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    The upgrade one looks the same other then I had him put black knobs on. It looks a bit better with the T+A with the black ones .

    So far I am loving it. The best pre-amp I have ever owned in my view!

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    Very impressive looking !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PavelDosko View Post
    Randy, what type of xlr cables with hattor are you using ?
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    The photo does not do it justice ... I might have to take some others... it is very heavy metal casing... I also love the separate power supply (lower shelf) and really nice feeling metal remote. Shipped in the flight case is a nice touch. It is much smoother than the lower model, with amazing sound stage both in width and depth. The clarity is simply stunning. I guess a passive pre-amp is the way for me... really like the W4S Stage 2, so far am liking the Hattor even more!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PavelDosko View Post
    Randy, what type of xlr cables with hattor are you using ?
    I have AudioQuest top of the line just prior to when they went to the battery system.
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    děkuji za odpověď, co aktivní fáze - is it useful ? My Hattor will come tomorrow :-)

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    Welcome Pavel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PavelDosko View Post
    děkuji za odpověď, co aktivní fáze - is it useful ? My Hattor will come tomorrow :-)
    Nice... it is an awesome pre-amp. I am 100% happy with it at this point. I hope you enjoy it as well!

    Not sure what you wrote out prior to the "is it useful" however if you are referring to the cables, I do like AudioQuest but there are other very good ones as well. A lot of personal preference. Not sure I would claim one brand better than another but I definitely hear the differences with good cables!
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    Ahoj, otázka byla o aktivní fázi, díky

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    Re: Hattor Pre-amp Inbound

    Hi, my question was what do you think about active phase, thank you. I've bought Hattor with OPA

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    I previously owned the Wyred 4 Sound STP-SE Stage 2 which is passive and has an active stage that automatically kicks in at a certain level. I never approached the level needed to kick in the active stage.

    I did not get the OPA because I felt I did not need the active boost. I have never heard it therefore I cannot give an honest opinion. What I can say is the pure passive version is amazing. I do not know which resistors you choose for your unit but what I can say is that unless you purchased the AMRG Trans version, I would feel that is more important. In my view, the higher level resistors are vastly more important than adding the active stage option. Now if you got both then it certainly can't hurt since you have the option to use the active stage or not to.
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    Thank you for your reply, yes my Hattor will be dual mono with AMRG AMTrans rezistors and OPA buffer.

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    Very nice! Enjoy it. I love mine so far. I cannot imagine finding a better sounding pre-amp.

    Let me know what you think after you have had a chance to let it run in a bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Randy Myers View Post
    I previously owned the Wyred 4 Sound STP-SE Stage 2 which is passive and has an active stage that automatically kicks in at a certain level. I never approached the level needed to kick in the active stage.

    I did not get the OPA because I felt I did not need the active boost...
    Steve McCormack who is the father of the Mod Squad Line Drive used to say, you don't choose passive preamps they pick you. Passives can leave a lot of performance on the table if you have a low gain amp driving low-sensitivity speakers. Add to that a LOMC and you could be losing all dynamics and drive your system is capable of.

    presently i have a few pairs of speakers about the house, one that's around 100 db sensitive and running the Freya full passive is sufficient for capturing everything. when I insert my 83 db sensitive speakers it sounds anemic running the pre' in passive mode, it lacks punch and room filling volume.
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    I'm sure I'll get back to you, I'm looking forward to it, it should be delivered by Friday

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    Quote Originally Posted by puroagave View Post
    Steve McCormack who is the father of the Mod Squad Line Drive used to say, you don't choose passive preamps they pick you. Passives can leave a lot of performance on the table if you have a low gain amp driving low-sensitivity speakers. Add to that a LOMC and you could be losing all dynamics and drive your system is capable of.

    presently i have a few pairs of speakers about the house, one that's around 100 db sensitive and running the Freya full passive is sufficient for capturing everything. when I insert my 83 db sensitive speakers it sounds anemic running the pre' in passive mode, it lacks punch and room filling volume.
    That actually makes a bit of sense to me. I could see how those factors might come into play. I don't have oodles of power and my speakers are not low efficiency but certainly not high either. The amp is about 100 WPC and the speaker are 89 dB. I am definitely a subscriber of quality power versus quantity.

    I know, to me, my system is very dynamics and inviting sounding! I do like that Arek has active stage, either sold state or tube, that can be added if I ever decide that passive is no longer doing it for me. As it is I am thrilled with the sound!

    I certainly can say, without reservations, that the parts being used inside makes a very big difference. Going from the Vishay resistors to the AMRG Trans was a real eye opener!
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    So, HATTOR was delivered, it seems to be really perfect preamp !

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    Awesome... enjoy it. I pretty much believe mine is about as perfect as I could ever hope for in a pre-amp!
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