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August 10, 2022, 02:04 PM #1
PS Audio PowerPlant 15
Anyone have experience with the PS Audio PowerPlant 15? I got an offer from PS Audio to get one at a discount. Don't have ANY power conditioning in the house which is 2 years old in a new development. So all really new power infrastructure and not a lot of users of the local grid since I live in a relatively low population area; it's really sparse here. I say so because i've heard arguments in support of such things for people who live in big cities on old power infrastructure.
Bottom line: does it help sound quality any? Is it worth the $$?Ref System: Wilson Alexx on Stillpoint Ultras w/Base, dCS Rossini & Upsampler & Clock, Audio Research REF 160S, REF 6SE, WW Platinum Everywhere, Roon
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August 11, 2022, 06:06 AM #2
Re: PS Audio PowerPlant 15
I have owned several PS audio power plant models over the past 20 years. Regadless of the location, they always improved my sound - blacker background, more detail, more relaxed trebles. To be fair, I have to say I ultimately replaced all of them with Shunyata conditioners (most recently the Everest 8000) because the did the job better with less complexity. In any case, power conditioning regardless of vendor, always made a positive difference.
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August 11, 2022, 07:43 AM #3
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Re: PS Audio PowerPlant 15
Doesn't PS Audio have a 30 day obligation free return policy?
Not much point in us telling you what we think of their products in our homes, just buy one and try it in your home and if you don't like it return it.Speakers: Magico M3, ACC, S-SUB | Electronics: Esoteric Grandioso stack | Amplification: Halcro |
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August 14, 2022, 04:33 PM #4
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Re: PS Audio PowerPlant 15
Yes! 100% I own a P20 that’s about 2 years old, before that I had a P5 that was ~5 years old. They are a no brainer. Nothing comes close, except Shunyata. Which is better depends on your system and preferences.
My P5 and P20 have been flawless.
Don’t listen to some members here - they spew baseless BS and don’t actually own a unit. (This forum is very much Shunyata biased, FYI. Shunyata is great, I own 2 Denalis and a bunch of their cables…).
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August 14, 2022, 05:39 PM #5
Re: PS Audio PowerPlant 15
I have been using a P15 for many years with flawless production of PS Audio regenerated AC power. I cannot comment on any subjective SQ analysis. It is large and heavy and a pain in the ass to insert into an audio rack.
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August 14, 2022, 06:33 PM #6
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At risk of repeating myself.....I've owned 10 PS Audio power plants. They all broke down, every one of them (note:they were all repaired under warranty). Plus I've owned two PS Audio DAC's and the Directstream memory player and NONE of them worked properly. In my opinion, based on my vast owner experience, PS Audio products are junk. I also own a Shunyata Denali. My electric projection screen, which weighs about 35kg, fell recently 2.4m from the ceiling and landed flush on top of my Denali and knocked it off its wall mount. The screen is stuffed but the Denali survived unscathed. It's built like a main battle tank.
But to answer the question, I **think*** PS Audio still offer an obligation free 30 day home trial. It doesn't matter what anyone here says about sound quality improvements when using one of these products because it is system dependent. I say, buy one and try it at home. If you like it, keep it. If not, send it back.Speakers: Magico M3, ACC, S-SUB | Electronics: Esoteric Grandioso stack | Amplification: Halcro |
Analog cables: Crystal Cable | Digital cables: Shunyata Sigma | Rack: YG Acoustics Rack 1.8
| Source: Kaleidescape Premiere (4 x 6TB) | Power: Shunyata Typhon-QR, Everest and Denali
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August 14, 2022, 06:53 PM #7
Re: PS Audio PowerPlant 15
Marty
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August 14, 2022, 09:02 PM #8
Re: PS Audio PowerPlant 15
Sometimes power regeneration solves a problem that does not exist. In home trial with several iterations of conditioner IN/OUT is the only way to tell in your specific situation.
Tom
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August 15, 2022, 11:41 AM #9
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Agree, every situation is different. A/B comparisons at home may be more complicated for some types of conditioners if you don't check first to make sure the output voltage of the unit under test is the same as the wall receptacle voltage.
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August 17, 2022, 05:42 AM #10
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Re: PS Audio PowerPlant 15
That's not quite right, no such test is necessary. I think you haven't understood the intent of that suggestion. When you adjust the output to match the input the regenerator has to do less work, resulting in slightly lower output distortion. Maybe go from 0.1% with matched voltage input/output to 0.2%. No big deal really. But if the input voltage is 250V (in 230V land), and you set output to match (aiming to achieve a very small distortion improvement), that is just silly. Set the output to 230V and accept 0.2% THD. 250V at 0.1% THD is not very nice for some connected components.
Speakers: Magico M3, ACC, S-SUB | Electronics: Esoteric Grandioso stack | Amplification: Halcro |
Analog cables: Crystal Cable | Digital cables: Shunyata Sigma | Rack: YG Acoustics Rack 1.8
| Source: Kaleidescape Premiere (4 x 6TB) | Power: Shunyata Typhon-QR, Everest and Denali
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August 17, 2022, 11:08 AM #11
Re: PS Audio PowerPlant 15
Think what you want. The output voltages on some power conditioners is higher by design. The result is louder output volume. On such an A/B comparison, there is a well-known perceptual auditory bias for louder output.
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August 18, 2022, 06:05 PM #12
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Re: PS Audio PowerPlant 15
While the maximum volume may be a few dBs louder, the input to output gain will remain the same.
Also some power conditioners may have problems with big amps playing near max volume.
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August 20, 2022, 02:24 AM #13
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Re: PS Audio PowerPlant 15
Huh? My local electricity supply typically is in the range 215-241V. The output is always 230V. input to output gain is always changing because the input is always changing whilst the output is steady. Not sure about the maximum volume comment. What my power regenerator does has no bearing on volume.
Speakers: Magico M3, ACC, S-SUB | Electronics: Esoteric Grandioso stack | Amplification: Halcro |
Analog cables: Crystal Cable | Digital cables: Shunyata Sigma | Rack: YG Acoustics Rack 1.8
| Source: Kaleidescape Premiere (4 x 6TB) | Power: Shunyata Typhon-QR, Everest and Denali
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