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    Re: PS Audio P20 vs Denali 6000/S V2?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGemState View Post
    I pretty sure I know of the person you are referring to and that person thought the P20 was the cats meow up until the point they were not longer a dealer because PS Audio went direct. So the data point you speak of I take with a gain of salt.

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    Re: PS Audio P20 vs Denali 6000/S V2?

    Quote Originally Posted by DeadHead View Post
    I have owned a P5, P10, P12, and P20...

    I am certainly no engineering expert, but all of the above did and are doing what they are supposed to do.
    With respect, no they don't. Powerplay is an advertised feature, has been promised for years, and it doesn't work for anybody. Your good-self included.

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    PS Audio P20 vs Denali 6000/S V2?

    Sorry. I guess I didnít explain my thinking correctly. I bought a PS Audio regenerator to quiet my electrical noise. I plugged it in, and it did that. My system improved to my ears. Thatís all I was interested in. So, for me at least, it worked the way I wanted it to.


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    Re: PS Audio P20 vs Denali 6000/S V2?

    I moved from a problem free PSAudio P10 to the Denali 6000/s V2.

    I had used the P10 in a variety of configurations. Entire system, front end only, amps only etc. I was using it only on my front end and during the winter (non-thunderstorm periods) had my amps plugged directly to their own 20 amp lines. This clearly sounded better.

    I purchased the Denali 6000/S V2 based on reviews and first connected it just to my amps. Hmmm, big improvement over having the amps connected to the P10 or directly into the wall. I then connected my entire system to the Denali with the help of a PS Audio Dectet. Huge improvement as mentioned before in dynamics and weight. My system became more relaxed and my P10 sits on the floor doing nothing.

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    PS Audio P20 vs Denali 6000/S V2?

    It's a massive improvement. I upgraded from the p10 to the Denali V2


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    Re: PS Audio P20 vs Denali 6000/S V2?

    I installed my new Denali today. Can't say I hear any difference at all. Whereas yesterday I changed from Belden BAV XLR to Iconoclast 4x4 Gen2 TPC interconnect and the improvement is easily noticeable. I put those Iconoclast very close to my Crystal Cable I/C but at a fraction of the cost.

    I'm wondering if the quality of the power supplies in the electronics might have a big influence on any performance gains in using a Denali. My Halcro power amps probably don't care too much about the quality of the power going into them. Same applies for my Esoteric gear. If the pedigree of your starting point is lower might bring about the bigger gains with Denali.

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    Re: PS Audio P20 vs Denali 6000/S V2?

    Quote Originally Posted by brodricj View Post
    I installed my new Denali today. Can't say I hear any difference at all. Whereas yesterday I changed from Belden BAV XLR to Iconoclast 4x4 Gen2 TPC interconnect and the improvement is easily noticeable. I put those Iconoclast very close to my Crystal Cable I/C but at a fraction of the cost.

    I'm wondering if the quality of the power supplies in the electronics might have a big influence on any performance gains in using a Denali. My Halcro power amps probably don't care too much about the quality of the power going into them. Same applies for my Esoteric gear. If the pedigree of your starting point is lower might bring about the bigger gains with Denali.

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    Give it a week or so. I didnít think much of it at first either.


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    Re: PS Audio P20 vs Denali 6000/S V2?

    I remember hearing an obvious improvement when I added a P10 to feed my Devialet 240.

    Now the difference is a lot less obvious since upgrade to a 250 Pro CI and now 1000 Pro CI.

    They improved significantly the power section and I understand that current peaks are delivered by internally stored current so that the impact of power delivery appears to be reduced.

    In my book either you perceive a difference when you add a component or pretty much never. I have managed to convince myself a few times that it did improve after a few weeks, but subsequent tests revealed it was most probably wishful thinking. At least in my case.

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    Re: PS Audio P20 vs Denali 6000/S V2?

    I been using a Shunyata Hydra 8 with very satisfactory results for at least fifteen years. My power c-j ART power amp does go directly to the wall through an Audioquest Hurricane cord. Sometime last year Michael had an almost new AQ 5000 traded in on the 7000. He doesn't seem to take trades except for current products purchased from him. He offered it to me at a good price to move it out. I took it, subject to trial at home. Honestly, in my system I was surprised to hear little improvement, and as an old retired guy, a little improvement won't do. Back it went, think he's still annoyed but it moved quickly and all is good. I now have the Denali V2 with their top power cable. I heard a immediate and significant improvement. More, richer bass, better transients, sweeter, better highs. This thing is the real deal and unlike the 5000, my old bones can move it around for installation. And the power amp is now operating through the Denali. Thanks Michael.
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    Re: PS Audio P20 vs Denali 6000/S V2?

    Quote Originally Posted by Coppy View Post
    I been using a Shunyata Hydra 8 with very satisfactory results for at least fifteen years. My power c-j ART power amp does go directly to the wall through an Audioquest Hurricane cord. Sometime last year Michael had an almost new AQ 5000 traded in on the 7000. He doesn't seem to take trades except for current products purchased from him. He offered it to me at a good price to move it out. I took it, subject to trial at home. Honestly, in my system I was surprised to hear little improvement, and as an old retired guy, a little improvement won't do. Back it went, think he's still annoyed but it moved quickly and all is good. I now have the Denali V2 with their top power cable. I heard a immediate and significant improvement. More, richer bass, better transients, sweeter, better highs. This thing is the real deal and unlike the 5000, my old bones can move it around for installation. And the power amp is now operating through the Denali. Thanks Michael.
    Youíre very welcome. But I do take trades of most products. We have seven storage units full of crap, errr...I mean stuff. Some stuff I swear will never move. A four channel Ayre amp from the 90ís is one! We use it now as a stepping stool to reach the boxes higher up. Itís free to anyone who wants to drive over and pick it up. PS Audio P20 vs Denali 6000/S V2?

    What I find funny is when someone will call me and tell me ďIíve got a Luxman tuner from the 80ís, a McIntosh CD player, doesnít work, but Iím sure you can get it fixed and some Klipsch speakers. How about I give you all that and you give me some new Pass amps?Ē

    LOL.

    The Denali 6000s/V2 is the real deal indeed. Thatís what I have at home.




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    Re: PS Audio P20 vs Denali 6000/S V2?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post

    The Denali 6000s/V2 is the real deal indeed. Thatís what I have at home.

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    Re: PS Audio P20 vs Denali 6000/S V2?

    The Denali 6000s/V2 is the real deal indeed. Thatís what I have at home.
    Iíve had my fill of problematic Power Plants and have moved on to Shunyata. I presently have 4 Denali 6000s/v2ís, 2 in my main home and 2 in vacation homes. Also an Everest is on the way.

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    Re: PS Audio P20 vs Denali 6000/S V2?

    Quote Originally Posted by RLF View Post
    I’ve had my fill of problematic Power Plants and have moved on to Shunyata. I presently have 4 Denali 6000s/v2’s, 2 in my main home and 2 in vacation homes. Also an Everest is on the way.
    I bet I've had more problematic Power Plants than your good self. Certainly in the reliability measure I rate them as JUNK. Although other luckier punters have had better luck than me. But I say, luck shouldn't come into it. I now have a Shunyata 6000/S.
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