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Thread: PMC Fact 12s finally arrived!!!!
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February 13, 2015, 06:09 PM #1
PMC Fact 12s finally arrived!!!!
4 months wait, but got em today! Yea!!!!!
System 1: Matrix Element M -> Sugden A21se -> Klipsch Cornwall 3.
System 2: Matrix Element X -> Exposure 3510 -> Heco Direkt.
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February 13, 2015, 06:13 PM #2
Re: PMC Fact 12s finally arrived!!!!
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February 13, 2015, 06:47 PM #3
Re: PMC Fact 12s finally arrived!!!!
Awesome! Congratulations.
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February 13, 2015, 06:47 PM #4
Re: PMC Fact 12s finally arrived!!!!
The Unicorn rides!
CD
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February 13, 2015, 07:47 PM #5
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Re: PMC Fact 12s finally arrived!!!!
Congratulations !
But why did it take 4 months ? ??
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February 13, 2015, 07:53 PM #6
Re: PMC Fact 12s finally arrived!!!!
Distributor had none. My pair were built in Nov of 2014. Then shipped from the UK to the distributor. Then to the dealer and finally to me. A hard speaker to obtain. But man oh man am I happy now I waited. Wow!
System 1: Matrix Element M -> Sugden A21se -> Klipsch Cornwall 3.
System 2: Matrix Element X -> Exposure 3510 -> Heco Direkt.
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February 13, 2015, 07:56 PM #7
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Re: PMC Fact 12s finally arrived!!!!
That must be shipping by snail.
I understand the feeling you have in getting your dream speakers.
And I am sure that it was worth the wait for you.
You obtained it.
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February 13, 2015, 08:16 PM #8
Re: PMC Fact 12s finally arrived!!!!
Thanks pacmam, yes they truly are my dream Speakers! And how awesome is it that I got them on a Friday!!!!
And youll love this story. I missed the fed ex delivery of these but there was a phone number on the missed delivery sticker so I called it. It was the fed ex drivers cell. He asked if I was home now and could he swing by now. Ummm.....YES!!!!System 1: Matrix Element M -> Sugden A21se -> Klipsch Cornwall 3.
System 2: Matrix Element X -> Exposure 3510 -> Heco Direkt.
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February 13, 2015, 09:03 PM #9
Re: PMC Fact 12s finally arrived!!!!
Micro Seiki SX-8000 air bearing table, SME 312s arm, SME 3012R arn, Dynavector XV-1s cartridge, Lyra Etna SL cartridge, ARC Ref 3 phono stage, Otari MX-55 2 track R2R, Ampex 350 tape repros, Roon Nucleus Plus music server, HiFi Rose 150B DAC, ARC Ref 6, ARC Ref 75 with KT-150s, Parasound JC5 amp , JBL 4345 speakers, Viero Equilibro Level 3 speaker cables, and Definitive Technology Ref subs.
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February 13, 2015, 09:32 PM #10
Re: PMC Fact 12s finally arrived!!!!
Thanks mep and I do love them.
Ive got the 117th pair of fact 12s ever built.System 1: Matrix Element M -> Sugden A21se -> Klipsch Cornwall 3.
System 2: Matrix Element X -> Exposure 3510 -> Heco Direkt.
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February 13, 2015, 09:33 PM #11
Re: PMC Fact 12s finally arrived!!!!
Thinking about just throwing the shipping boxes away. For a gear swapper like me that's like George Clooney getting married....
System 1: Matrix Element M -> Sugden A21se -> Klipsch Cornwall 3.
System 2: Matrix Element X -> Exposure 3510 -> Heco Direkt.
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February 13, 2015, 09:47 PM #12
Re: PMC Fact 12s finally arrived!!!!
Pictures would be most excellent!
Buddy
Boulder 1160 Amp, 1110 Pre-Amp
Audio Research Ref. 3 Phono-Pre
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MSB Reference DAC
Innuos Statement w/Next. Gen. PS
B & W DB1D Subwoofer X2
Audioquest Niagara 5000 Power Conditioner
Kronos Pro Turntable w/Kronoscope RS tonearm + SCPS-1 PS + MSL Platinum Cart.
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Jay's Audio CDT3-MK3 CD Transport
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February 13, 2015, 09:59 PM #13
Re: PMC Fact 12s finally arrived!!!!
But of course. Many pics posted tomorrow.
System 1: Matrix Element M -> Sugden A21se -> Klipsch Cornwall 3.
System 2: Matrix Element X -> Exposure 3510 -> Heco Direkt.
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February 13, 2015, 11:05 PM #14
Re: PMC Fact 12s finally arrived!!!!
Mark
Kharma DB9 Signature
Pass Labs XP32......incoming
Pass Labs X350.8
Esoteric N-05XD
VPI Avenger with Magnetic Drive
Manley Chinook Phono Pre
Ortofon Cadenza Black cartridge
Kharma Elegance speaker cables
Kharma Elegance interconnects
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February 13, 2015, 11:27 PM #15
Re: PMC Fact 12s finally arrived!!!!
Congrats Tom, looking forward to some pics!
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February 14, 2015, 03:45 AM #16
Re: PMC Fact 12s finally arrived!!!!
Congrats Jax........can't wait for the pics and of course the video.
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February 14, 2015, 09:30 AM #17
Re: PMC Fact 12s finally arrived!!!!
Mark
Kharma DB9 Signature
Pass Labs XP32......incoming
Pass Labs X350.8
Esoteric N-05XD
VPI Avenger with Magnetic Drive
Manley Chinook Phono Pre
Ortofon Cadenza Black cartridge
Kharma Elegance speaker cables
Kharma Elegance interconnects
REL Subs
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February 14, 2015, 09:36 AM #18
Re: PMC Fact 12s finally arrived!!!!
My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
"We can hear everything we measure, but we can't measure everything we hear. Let your ears be your guide."
Dealer for: Aqua Hi-Fi, Aurender, AudioQuest Cables & Power Products, Berkeley Audio, Block Audio (distributor), Boulder Amplifiers, Bowers & Wilkins (B&W), Bryston, Clarisys Audio Loudspeakers (distributor), Classe’ Audio, Degritter Record Cleaning Machines, Esoteric, Finite Elemente, FirstWatt, Focal Loudspeakers and Headphones, GigaFoil, Harbeth Loudspeakers, Hegel, HiFi Man, Innuos, ISO Acoustics, Keces Power Supplies, Kharma Loudspeakers and Electronics, Kuzma Turntables, Lumin, Luxman, Magico Loudspeakers, MBL Speakers & Electronics, MSB Technologies, MySonicLabs Phono Cartridges, Nordost Cables, Ortofon, Pass Labs, Quadraspire, Rega Turntables and Electronics, Shunyata Research, STAX, Stein Music Products, Stillpoints, Soulution, VAC, Vicoustics, Viva Audio, VPI Industries, WireWorld Cables.
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February 14, 2015, 09:48 AM #19
Re: PMC Fact 12s finally arrived!!!!
Mark
Kharma DB9 Signature
Pass Labs XP32......incoming
Pass Labs X350.8
Esoteric N-05XD
VPI Avenger with Magnetic Drive
Manley Chinook Phono Pre
Ortofon Cadenza Black cartridge
Kharma Elegance speaker cables
Kharma Elegance interconnects
REL Subs
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February 14, 2015, 09:59 AM #20
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Re: PMC Fact 12s finally arrived!!!!
Grats, never heard the fact 12 but only the fact 8 but its certain to me it is great speaker!
i've been enjoying its relative The twenty.26 for about half a year now.
and together with the job pre and monos i got this week. audio-nirvana
enjoy them!
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February 14, 2015, 11:29 AM #21
Re: PMC Fact 12s finally arrived!!!!
System 1: Matrix Element M -> Sugden A21se -> Klipsch Cornwall 3.
System 2: Matrix Element X -> Exposure 3510 -> Heco Direkt.
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February 14, 2015, 12:26 PM #22
Re: PMC Fact 12s finally arrived!!!!
Wow !! Looks great Tom
Mark
Kharma DB9 Signature
Pass Labs XP32......incoming
Pass Labs X350.8
Esoteric N-05XD
VPI Avenger with Magnetic Drive
Manley Chinook Phono Pre
Ortofon Cadenza Black cartridge
Kharma Elegance speaker cables
Kharma Elegance interconnects
REL Subs
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February 14, 2015, 01:46 PM #23
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My Gosssh Jax.....very drool worthy.
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February 14, 2015, 03:09 PM #24
Re: PMC Fact 12s finally arrived!!!!
Tom...I know it's going to be very hard, to isolate such a thing; but I'd love to get your impressions, of this newly developed mid-range driver. Especially as it compares, to the legendary ATC unit...that PMC used, in your previous IB2s.
Congrats my friend! I know what a journey it's been.CD
DAC/Pre-amp - PSAudio DsJ > Power-amp - > Speakers - PMC TwentyFive 23s
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February 14, 2015, 05:50 PM #25
Re: PMC Fact 12s finally arrived!!!!
Gorgeous!
I would love to hear them and compare them to my C2's.Buddy
Boulder 1160 Amp, 1110 Pre-Amp
Audio Research Ref. 3 Phono-Pre
Vivid Audio Giya G2S2 Speakers
MSB Reference DAC
Innuos Statement w/Next. Gen. PS
B & W DB1D Subwoofer X2
Audioquest Niagara 5000 Power Conditioner
Kronos Pro Turntable w/Kronoscope RS tonearm + SCPS-1 PS + MSL Platinum Cart.
VPI HW-40 Turntable w/ Lyra Etna cartridge
Jay's Audio CDT3-MK3 CD Transport
Schiit Mjolnir 2 HPA + Audeze LCD X headphones
Adona Equipment Rack and Amp Stands
Furutech Outlets and Plates + NCF Booster
Shunyata Cables
Synergistic Research Galileo SX Ground Block, FEQ 4, Ethernet Switch UEF, Black Box + Room Acoustic treatments
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February 14, 2015, 09:01 PM #26
Re: PMC Fact 12s finally arrived!!!!
Something is missing and I'm trying to put my finger on it....Oh yeah, there is no turntable.
Micro Seiki SX-8000 air bearing table, SME 312s arm, SME 3012R arn, Dynavector XV-1s cartridge, Lyra Etna SL cartridge, ARC Ref 3 phono stage, Otari MX-55 2 track R2R, Ampex 350 tape repros, Roon Nucleus Plus music server, HiFi Rose 150B DAC, ARC Ref 6, ARC Ref 75 with KT-150s, Parasound JC5 amp , JBL 4345 speakers, Viero Equilibro Level 3 speaker cables, and Definitive Technology Ref subs.
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February 14, 2015, 09:34 PM #27
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February 15, 2015, 12:48 AM #28
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February 15, 2015, 08:41 AM #29
Re: PMC Fact 12s finally arrived!!!!
I have been to Tom's room, it's just beautiful !! A nice clean and modern look.
Mark
Kharma DB9 Signature
Pass Labs XP32......incoming
Pass Labs X350.8
Esoteric N-05XD
VPI Avenger with Magnetic Drive
Manley Chinook Phono Pre
Ortofon Cadenza Black cartridge
Kharma Elegance speaker cables
Kharma Elegance interconnects
REL Subs
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February 15, 2015, 08:56 AM #30
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February 15, 2015, 12:13 PM #31
Re: PMC Fact 12s finally arrived!!!!
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DAC/Pre-amp - PSAudio DsJ > Power-amp - > Speakers - PMC TwentyFive 23s
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February 15, 2015, 12:51 PM #32
Re: PMC Fact 12s finally arrived!!!!
Man, I love the white version of these. I STRONGLY considered getting them. What stopped me was knowing that these speakers are really end game speakers for me (at least for several years) and I felt that the tiger ebony finish is more classic and more likely stand the test of time. The white is a bit more trendy and I worried about whether I might tire of that look over time.
As as for the walls, I do agree that a bit of color would be nice. Maybe I'll just do one wall. How about bright orange? : )System 1: Matrix Element M -> Sugden A21se -> Klipsch Cornwall 3.
System 2: Matrix Element X -> Exposure 3510 -> Heco Direkt.
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February 27, 2015, 06:28 PM #33
Re: PMC Fact 12s finally arrived!!!!
Jax cool looking setup. Loved the new speakers,PMC makes a great speaker, I use to own the IB2's sweet midrange.
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February 27, 2015, 06:44 PM #34
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February 27, 2015, 07:37 PM #35
Re: PMC Fact 12s finally arrived!!!!
I'm enjoying it very much. It's only been 5 days so far and I'm impressed. I have another 10 days until my dealer comes back from vacation before I have to turn it in. The heavy weights Mike and Joe say monos or bust more than just power, lower noise floor, etc and seeing that you just went the mono route also is compelling. But the TAD's are sounding good on one so far.
Gryphon Essence stereo amp and preamp/dac Hurricane power cords
Fyne Audio F1-10, Lumin T2, Moon 260 Transport
Shunyata Research Everest, Sigma V2 XC,
Shunyata Research Sigma USB and Ethernet
Argento Audio speaker cables and interconnects
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February 28, 2015, 12:27 AM #36
Re: PMC Fact 12s finally arrived!!!!
So what is the pros and cons om this speakers vs IB2s?
Paul
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February 28, 2015, 12:33 AM #37
Re: PMC Fact 12s finally arrived!!!!
Pretty much a notch better in every category. These disappear far better. They are slighly more transparent. The bass is even more articulate. Imaging is comparable to a British stand mount speaker. And then there's the appearance where they crush the IB2 IMO. Personally I love the appearance. I find them sleek and sexy as hell. The IB2 is a super speaker. The fact 12 is a world class speaker. That's the difference but just one mans opinion. Worth what I charge for it. : ).
The IB2s do win in the area of bass slam, but they can overwhelm a listening space more easily.System 1: Matrix Element M -> Sugden A21se -> Klipsch Cornwall 3.
System 2: Matrix Element X -> Exposure 3510 -> Heco Direkt.
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