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Thread: Pass XA100.8 Review
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December 26, 2014, 10:47 AM #1
Pass XA100.8 Review
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December 26, 2014, 11:41 AM #2
Re: Pass XA100.8 Review
I do love my XA60.5's. Maybe I'll stay put for a while
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NAD C 658 streamer.
First Watt SIT-3, Job 250 Monos, NuForce STA200, AkitikA GT-102 amp, ASL Wave monos, Dennis Had 45 monos. Absolute Audio Labs PCF 25 amp (improved First Watt F7 super clone)
Topping D90, RME Audio ADI-2 DAC FS, ModWright Ultimate Sony XA-5400ES.
Burmester 948, McIntosh MCLK12, Kimber Kable, Siltech, Cardas, Avanti Audio cables.
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December 26, 2014, 11:46 AM #3Micro Seiki SX-8000 air bearing table, SME 312s arm, SME 3012R arn, Dynavector XV-1s cartridge, Lyra Etna SL cartridge, ARC Ref 3 phono stage, Otari MX-55 2 track R2R, Ampex 350 tape repros, Roon Nucleus Plus music server, HiFi Rose 150B DAC, ARC Ref 6, ARC Ref 75 with KT-150s, Parasound JC5 amp , JBL 4345 speakers, Viero Equilibro Level 3 speaker cables, and Definitive Technology Ref subs.
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December 26, 2014, 12:15 PM #4
Re: Pass XA100.8 Review
Ha!
It's funny, the desire is waning. What I have is spectacular and I love my Jolida. I know it's "inexpensive" but satisfies on a huge scale. Maybe because the bang for my buck is so high with it.
I love the treble and midrange so much on the Pass XA60.5's that I don't find any problem with the bass. For me, the treble and midrange are more important. I'll admit, I love the gear, I know what "I" like and do love the music.
I'll be honest, there are maybe 1 or 2 other amps I need to "try" but that will be for next year, hopefully.
Fleetwood Deville by Oswald Mills Audio, Vienna Acoustics Haydn Jubilee, Wharfedale Linton w/ stands, Klipsch RB-75, Klipsch RP-160M.
Job INTegrated. Luxman L-595aSE
NAD C 658 streamer.
First Watt SIT-3, Job 250 Monos, NuForce STA200, AkitikA GT-102 amp, ASL Wave monos, Dennis Had 45 monos. Absolute Audio Labs PCF 25 amp (improved First Watt F7 super clone)
Topping D90, RME Audio ADI-2 DAC FS, ModWright Ultimate Sony XA-5400ES.
Burmester 948, McIntosh MCLK12, Kimber Kable, Siltech, Cardas, Avanti Audio cables.
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December 26, 2014, 12:59 PM #5
Re: Pass XA100.8 Review
Joe,
(tube)Roll out the Jolida to the max and perhaps you may find the itch completely disappears. Sooo many tube models and brands to try.NORMAN
Custom PC with Memory Player Software Suite/ Modded Denon CD transport>Lampi GG1 (and sometimes PACIFIC) DHT tube Dac> Rowen 850W Isolating Transformer/ Rowen SS Preamp and PA1 monoblocs/Lampi Silk power cond. with Phase flipper> Heil AMT KITHARA & Syrinx in parallel hookup. Swiss cables (Reference line) for PC/interconnects and speaker cables. Goldmund Sweetcord PC. FTA Callisto unpowered USB cable. Basic analog: vintage Lenco L78 TT with Rowen mat, Denon MM cart, iFi iPhono2 with 15v Hynes SR3 LPSU. Synology 12 TB NAS. 2nd system:KenWin Bluetooth speaker 3rd system TBI Millemnium amp with Aulos speakers and SB Duo hookup.
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December 26, 2014, 02:07 PM #6Fleetwood Deville by Oswald Mills Audio, Vienna Acoustics Haydn Jubilee, Wharfedale Linton w/ stands, Klipsch RB-75, Klipsch RP-160M.
Job INTegrated. Luxman L-595aSE
NAD C 658 streamer.
First Watt SIT-3, Job 250 Monos, NuForce STA200, AkitikA GT-102 amp, ASL Wave monos, Dennis Had 45 monos. Absolute Audio Labs PCF 25 amp (improved First Watt F7 super clone)
Topping D90, RME Audio ADI-2 DAC FS, ModWright Ultimate Sony XA-5400ES.
Burmester 948, McIntosh MCLK12, Kimber Kable, Siltech, Cardas, Avanti Audio cables.
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December 26, 2014, 04:04 PM #7
Re: Pass XA100.8 Review
Myles B. Astor, Senior Editor, PF, www.positive-feedback.com
Zellaton Plural Evo speakers, Doshi Audio EVO phonostage, VPI Avenger direct-drive turntable/VPI 12-inch gimbal Fatboy/vdH Colibri Master Signature/Triangle Art Apollo cartridges, SAT LM-12 tonearms/Lyra Atlas SL Lambda, VPI 12-inch gimballed Carbon Fiber arm/vdh Black Crimson and Sumiko Songbird, Mutech Hayabusa cartridges
Technics RS1506 reel-to-reel with low inductance Flux Magnetic heads, Doshi Audio EVO tapestage, AudioQuest Dragon Zero, Audience FrontRow, Ensemble PC, Skogrand, Kubala-Sosna Realization speaker cable, Ikigai Kangai speaker cable, SRA Craz 3/OHIO 2.3 platforms and Symposium ISIS/Ultra rack/platforms, Silver Circle Tchaik 6 PLC.
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December 26, 2014, 04:39 PM #8
Re: Pass XA100.8 Review
Hi Myles,
I had planned on sending in the ARTsa for triode wiring. I kind of chickened out a little on that one. I still may do it. The cost is minimal but for some reason I am hesitating. Not 100% sure why. It's still in the box
What are your thoughts on doing the conversion of the ARTsa to triode with EL-34's?
Last edited by joeinid; December 26, 2014 at 04:53 PM.
Fleetwood Deville by Oswald Mills Audio, Vienna Acoustics Haydn Jubilee, Wharfedale Linton w/ stands, Klipsch RB-75, Klipsch RP-160M.
Job INTegrated. Luxman L-595aSE
NAD C 658 streamer.
First Watt SIT-3, Job 250 Monos, NuForce STA200, AkitikA GT-102 amp, ASL Wave monos, Dennis Had 45 monos. Absolute Audio Labs PCF 25 amp (improved First Watt F7 super clone)
Topping D90, RME Audio ADI-2 DAC FS, ModWright Ultimate Sony XA-5400ES.
Burmester 948, McIntosh MCLK12, Kimber Kable, Siltech, Cardas, Avanti Audio cables.
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December 26, 2014, 05:59 PM #9
Re: Pass XA100.8 Review
Myles B. Astor, Senior Editor, PF, www.positive-feedback.com
Zellaton Plural Evo speakers, Doshi Audio EVO phonostage, VPI Avenger direct-drive turntable/VPI 12-inch gimbal Fatboy/vdH Colibri Master Signature/Triangle Art Apollo cartridges, SAT LM-12 tonearms/Lyra Atlas SL Lambda, VPI 12-inch gimballed Carbon Fiber arm/vdh Black Crimson and Sumiko Songbird, Mutech Hayabusa cartridges
Technics RS1506 reel-to-reel with low inductance Flux Magnetic heads, Doshi Audio EVO tapestage, AudioQuest Dragon Zero, Audience FrontRow, Ensemble PC, Skogrand, Kubala-Sosna Realization speaker cable, Ikigai Kangai speaker cable, SRA Craz 3/OHIO 2.3 platforms and Symposium ISIS/Ultra rack/platforms, Silver Circle Tchaik 6 PLC.
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December 26, 2014, 09:27 PM #10
Re: Pass XA100.8 Review
Thanks for posting this review, Mike.
It just goes to show how subjective this stuff is. Having owned the XA-100.5 for over a year, I really didn't agree with the reviewer's comments about its treble at all. However, I do agree that the XA-100.8 is a big step up in almost every way.
Ken"No summit worth climbing is easily attained."
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Source: MSB Select II DAC with Two Mono Powerbases and Femto 33 Clock; Renderer V2 Digital Input Module and Roon Nucleus Plus; MSB UMT V Signature Transport
Amps: Vandersteen M7-HPA Mono Amps; MSB M204 Mono Amps
Speakers: Vandersteen Model 7 Mk2
Power: Two AudioQuest Niagara 5000’s with AudioQuest Dragon and Hurricane Power Cords
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December 27, 2014, 01:40 AM #11
Re: Pass XA100.8 Review
George
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December 27, 2014, 08:44 AM #12
Re: Pass XA100.8 Review
Hi George,
I think it really comes down to personal preference. I never heard the XA-160.5 or XA-160.8 in my room, so I don't have an opinion on them. But I did own both the XA-100.5 and XA-100.8 at the same time and was able to do a head-to-head comparison in my room. Basically, after listening to the 100.8's, the sound was so much more clear and pure that when I went back to the 100.5's, they sounded somewhat muddy in comparison and were not as enjoyable as before. Listening to the transparency of the 100.8's really changed my point of reference as well as exposing how euphonic the 100.5's sounded in comparison. However, before I had heard the 100.8's, I was totally enamored with the sound of the 100.5's. It's funny how that works. I would probably still own the XP-30 and XA-100.8's if not for my desire to purchase Raidho D3's. I was also having some issues with heat management with the 100.8's even though I have central a/c. They put out a lot of heat, substantially more overall heat than the 100.5's, although the heat is distributed much more evenly due to the new vertical heat sinking.
Ken"No summit worth climbing is easily attained."
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Source: MSB Select II DAC with Two Mono Powerbases and Femto 33 Clock; Renderer V2 Digital Input Module and Roon Nucleus Plus; MSB UMT V Signature Transport
Amps: Vandersteen M7-HPA Mono Amps; MSB M204 Mono Amps
Speakers: Vandersteen Model 7 Mk2
Power: Two AudioQuest Niagara 5000’s with AudioQuest Dragon and Hurricane Power Cords
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December 27, 2014, 11:43 AM #13
Re: Pass XA100.8 Review
+1 to that Joe. I'll be the first to admit...for about 7 years now; I've been on a box-swapping tear! Sometimes...when I'm trying to remember all the ear; I'll wholly forget pieces that I had. Like "oh, that's right; I had a..."
But you know what; I wouldn't trade it, or do anything differently. I took some heat for it...but it was just the phase I was in. I wanted to try it all, and I did what I could.
But, much like aversion therapy...lol; now...it's time to enter a new phase. It's maybe only because, I have heard so much (and look...in this company, that's relative); that when I settle down, I can truly exhale...and feel confident, I've got a set-up that makes me entirely content.
That said...what are the models you still want to try?CD
DAC/Pre-amp - PSAudio DsJ > Power-amp - > Speakers - PMC TwentyFive 23s
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December 27, 2014, 12:18 PM #14
Re: Pass XA100.8 Review
Ha! Too funny.
Well, I may try and get a pair of MC2301's for the Strads. I know they are a polarizing choice, but one I "may" need to get out of my system. As time goes on, it's not as important, but there were goosebump moments in past demos with Strads and MC2301's when I heard them. Even as much as I love my other amps on the Strads, no goosebumps, but there is beautiful music.
I may end up with a CJ Classic Sixty SE with EL-34's. Love that CJ sound. My listening habits are different from many of the members here. My stereo is on 12-15 hours a day. Some serious listening but mostly for enjoyment as I go about my day/night. Smaller tube amps or solid state amps are more welcome in this situation.
I do want to play with the ARC Ref 75, Primaluna HP and Rogue Stereo 100 as well. I won't lie, a pair of XA60.8's or XA100.8's might be fun too.Last edited by joeinid; December 27, 2014 at 12:48 PM.
Fleetwood Deville by Oswald Mills Audio, Vienna Acoustics Haydn Jubilee, Wharfedale Linton w/ stands, Klipsch RB-75, Klipsch RP-160M.
Job INTegrated. Luxman L-595aSE
NAD C 658 streamer.
First Watt SIT-3, Job 250 Monos, NuForce STA200, AkitikA GT-102 amp, ASL Wave monos, Dennis Had 45 monos. Absolute Audio Labs PCF 25 amp (improved First Watt F7 super clone)
Topping D90, RME Audio ADI-2 DAC FS, ModWright Ultimate Sony XA-5400ES.
Burmester 948, McIntosh MCLK12, Kimber Kable, Siltech, Cardas, Avanti Audio cables.
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December 28, 2014, 01:21 AM #15
Re: Pass XA100.8 Review
I like to hear the XA100.8 on my Westies !!!!!
Paul
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December 28, 2014, 01:23 AM #16Fleetwood Deville by Oswald Mills Audio, Vienna Acoustics Haydn Jubilee, Wharfedale Linton w/ stands, Klipsch RB-75, Klipsch RP-160M.
Job INTegrated. Luxman L-595aSE
NAD C 658 streamer.
First Watt SIT-3, Job 250 Monos, NuForce STA200, AkitikA GT-102 amp, ASL Wave monos, Dennis Had 45 monos. Absolute Audio Labs PCF 25 amp (improved First Watt F7 super clone)
Topping D90, RME Audio ADI-2 DAC FS, ModWright Ultimate Sony XA-5400ES.
Burmester 948, McIntosh MCLK12, Kimber Kable, Siltech, Cardas, Avanti Audio cables.
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December 28, 2014, 09:08 AM #17
Re: Pass XA100.8 Review
"No summit worth climbing is easily attained."
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Source: MSB Select II DAC with Two Mono Powerbases and Femto 33 Clock; Renderer V2 Digital Input Module and Roon Nucleus Plus; MSB UMT V Signature Transport
Amps: Vandersteen M7-HPA Mono Amps; MSB M204 Mono Amps
Speakers: Vandersteen Model 7 Mk2
Power: Two AudioQuest Niagara 5000’s with AudioQuest Dragon and Hurricane Power Cords
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