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    The New Pass Int-25

    Just released and seen in passive display, the single-ended only Pass Int-25 ($7250) combines an XA-25 with a simplified Int-60 front end. The Int-25 has three inputs, all single-ended.










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    Re: The New Pass Int-25

    Might make a nice bedroom system. I was going to also say work system, but I always had to use headphones at work.
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    Re: The New Pass Int-25

    If you live in a cold weather state.
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    Re: The New Pass Int-25

    https://www.passlabs.com/amplifier/int-25




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    Re: The New Pass Int-25

    What types of speakers would one pair with that? Does 25w Class A equal anything more in Class B or C?
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    Re: The New Pass Int-25

    The XA25 is capable of putting as much as 50Wpc class-A (or 100Wpc class-AB) into a 2 ohm load so any reasonable speaker will do. The XA25 is a superb amp and any speaker you'd pair with a 25/50wpc tube amp will be great on the XA25 or INT25.
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    Re: The New Pass Int-25

    Nice looking integrated!
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    Re: The New Pass Int-25

    So anyone tried this yet ?
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    Re: The New Pass Int-25

    I have. Very nice sounding unit.


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    Re: The New Pass Int-25

    Think I'll stick with my M2 clone.

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    Re: The New Pass Int-25

    yes i saw a first watt m2 today in a store , very interested in how folks get on with this amp . although it only has a few inputs
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    Re: The New Pass Int-25

    Has the int 25 replaced the int 30 ?
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    Re: The New Pass Int-25

    First evening listening ...


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    Re: The New Pass Int-25

    Nice! Needs a lot of break in.


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    Re: The New Pass Int-25

    ah fantastic , soundrebels . not had much response in UK to thoughts on this amp . its pretty light in weight compared to some of the pass integrated . Nice to see the size of it compared to the bottles . keep us posted as it breaks in . i recently sold my lovely msb s200 so sometime next year will be looking at a replacement integrated
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    Re: The New Pass Int-25

    For now first impression - don't even try to listen this small Pass during first hour after wake up from stand-by. The sound is dull, grey and irritating
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    Re: The New Pass Int-25

    Like most, if not all, Pass/First Watt amps, they need a good hour or more to wake up and open up. My SIT-3 takes a little longer but once there, OMG it's superb!
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    Re: The New Pass Int-25

    Joe - do you warm up your SIT-3 with music streaming, or can you just turn it on for an hour? Thanks - Scotty

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    Hi Scotty,

    Do you mean if I am only listening for an hour?

    It's sort of ok for the first hour, more listenable after about 20 minutes and wonderful after an hour or more. Once my amps are on, they are usually on for 8-12 hours.


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    Joe - do you warm up your SIT-3 with music streaming, or can you just turn it on for an hour? Thanks - Scotty
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    Re: The New Pass Int-25

    Joe - Before listening and while warming up the amp, do you stream music at low volume, or do you just turn on the amp (without streaming music) for the warmup period.....(and wondering if that is good for the amp)

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    Re: The New Pass Int-25

    Ahhh, if my amp is on, I'm at least streaming. I never really just leave the amp on without music playing. I'm always running music through an amp that's on. And yes, low volume on first turn on, gradually getting to my preferred listening level.
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    Re: The New Pass Int-25

    I just raised the question to Kent at Pass Labs (what a guy, he responded to email on a Friday evening). He says there is no harm in warming up the amp with no load, although they have detected a slight improvement in their audio shows with streaming vs no streaming. Warming up amps with no speaker load is mostly a tube amp thing - not a good idea for the toobs.

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    Re: The New Pass Int-25

    Of course, all the components in the system (in my case for my near field listening rig workstation / studio: MSB Dac, PS Audio BHK Pre, SIT-3, Harbeth P3ESR) will also benefit from the warm up. So, you are doing it the right way. I agree, the SIT-3 is amazing and mesmerizing..........enjoy

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    Re: The New Pass Int-25

    SIT-3 and P3esr is supposed to be an awesome combination.

    I figure if my system is on, might as well play some tunes.
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    Re: The New Pass Int-25

    Does the int 25 sound quite a bit different from the int 250? If you read reviews of both, it's almost like they're not even made by the same company. Evidently there is no Pass "signature sound". But I've read they are both top notch stuff.


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    Re: The New Pass Int-25

    XA25 is superb. I’m sure the Int-25 is as well. If I remember correctly, the XA25 is based off the XS series amps. You might absolutely love the Int-25 on your Harbeth Super HL5 speakers. It’s a powerful little amp.

    My thoughts are the bigger or the more inefficient speaker, the bigger the amp. Meaning, no need to overdo the combo. Sometimes you can finesse better sound out of a smaller, sweeter amp.
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    Re: The New Pass Int-25

    Quote Originally Posted by bluegrassphile View Post
    Does the int 25 sound quite a bit different from the int 250? If you read reviews of both, it's almost like they're not even made by the same company. Evidently there is no Pass "signature sound". But I've read they are both top notch stuff.


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    I'm playing now on INT-25 and reviewed a few years ago Int-60 and INT-250. So for me ... Int250 is the best, Int25 second ,and Int60 on the end.
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    Thank you Marcin.
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    Re: The New Pass Int-25

    Quote Originally Posted by SoundRebels View Post
    I'm playing now on INT-25 and reviewed a few years ago Int-60 and INT-250. So for me ... Int250 is the best, Int25 second ,and Int60 on the end.

    Marcin, one person told me they thought the top end on the int 60 was "sweeter sounding" vs the int 250. Would you agree with that or not? I've never heard an int 250 so I can't comment. However, almost all reviews I've read on the int 250 were overwhelmingly positive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluegrassphile View Post
    Marcin, one person told me they thought the top end on the int 60 was "sweeter sounding" vs the int 250. Would you agree with that or not? I've never heard an int 250 so I can't comment. However, almost all reviews I've read on the int 250 were overwhelmingly positive.
    Not in my system ;-) For me 60 was much more analytical and on the colder side of neutrality than 250 and 25
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    Re: The New Pass Int-25

    Marcin,

    I just reread your posts. I ordered the int 250. I'm really pumped to hear it. I've heard the int 60 but not the int 250. I thought the int 60 sounded really good so I'm hoping the int 250 sounds even better to my ears. Thank you for your posts. I'm optimistic the int 250 will sound superb. It will also be running through an MSB Discrete DAC with optional second power supply. I'm told that will add to the SQ. Can't hardly go wrong. We'll see.


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    Re: The New Pass Int-25

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowfax View Post
    What types of speakers would one pair with that? Does 25w Class A equal anything more in Class B or C?

    Klipsch? Fyne?

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    Re: The New Pass Int-25

    To make sure I understand...It's OK to turn the int 250 on (or any other SS amp) with the volume all the way down and let the amp warm up for half an hour or more?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluegrassphile View Post
    To make sure I understand...It's OK to turn the int 250 on (or any other SS amp) with the volume all the way down and let the amp warm up for half an hour or more?
    For the best effect just play the music with Your normal volume level ;-)
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