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    *NEW* MSB Premier Headphone Amp











    The Premier Headphone Amp Features - MSB Technology

    Price estimated to be around $8900, but need to confirm.


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    Re: *NEW* MSB Premier Headphone Amp

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    Re: *NEW* MSB Premier Headphone Amp

    While it is often difficult to justify the exuberant prices on audio products in general, this product seems almost reasonable all things considered. Almost...

    It looks like a serious headphone amp.

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    Re: *NEW* MSB Premier Headphone Amp

    Looks terrific. I looked at the spec sheet; it states that it is to be used with MSB products only.
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    Re: *NEW* MSB Premier Headphone Amp

    Quote Originally Posted by Ritmo View Post
    Looks terrific. I looked at the spec sheet; it states that it is to be used with MSB products only.
    no; only that you must either add a passive volume control on the input side such as the Goldpoint (Vince from MSB recommended) which i bought for my MSB Select Electrostatic Headphone amp.......

    Goldpoint SA2X Level Controls / Passive Preamps

    ........or you can feed it from your preamp using the preamp volume control (for instance if you want to hear vinyl or tape.....or either vinyl or tape could be run direct into the amp with the passive box.).

    considering how a headphone amp is used, the little passive box (i paid $616 for it) seems to be a good (cheap and transparent sounding) solution to the problem for those times you are not using it with the MSB dac.

    you could also run the analog out from your laptop into it with a RCA -> XLR converter and use the volume control in your laptop (or insert the passive stand alone). better would be a digital out from your laptop into your MSB dac and then use the MSB for conversion and attenuation.

    so there are plenty of choices to overcome the lack of an onboard volume control in the MSB headphone amps. but the most elegant way is with the MSB dacs. i do like the one button push to toggle from speakers or headphones.

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    Re: *NEW* MSB Premier Headphone Amp

    Thanks for the insights Mike.

    Below is text from the MSB site:

    “ Technical Specifications:

    The Premier Headphone Amplifier

    The Premier Headphone Amp can ONLY be used with MSB DACs.

    Supported Formats Analog Only
    XLR Analog Inputs Optimized for 75Ω or 150Ω Balanced Source
    XLR Analog Outputs Direct connection to input when enabled or unit powered off.
    When listening to headphones, output is muted with 75Ω output impedance
    Headphone Output Impedance 40Ω
    Dynamic Range
    20Hz-20kHz
    (Max Power at 45Ω) >125dB
    >134dBA
    Frequency Response 20Hz-20kHz ±0.3dB
    Common Mode Rejection Ratio > 82dB CMRR @ 60Hz
    > 82dB CMRR @ 1kHz
    > 80dB CMRR @ 20kHz
    Crosstalk <-110dB Crosstalk @ 1kHz
    <-90dB Crosstalk @ 20kHz
    Max Power @ 1% THD+N 8Ω @ 4.5Vrms (2.53W)
    16Ω @ 7.5Vrms (3.51W)
    32Ω @ 11.4Vrms (4.06W)
    45Ω @ 13.2Vrms (3.87W)
    150Ω @ 13.8Vrms (1.27W)
    Headphone Output Connectors 1x 4 Pin XLR
    2x 1/4" Stereo Jack (Single-ended)
    Display Power LED
    Controls Rear panel power switch
    Front panel passthrough/Headphone toggle switch
    1x MSB 12V Trigger
    Power Consumption 82 Watts
    (8Watts in passthrough mode)
    AC Voltage 100V (Fixed)
    120/240V (User switch on bottom of unit)
    Topology
    Input/Gain Stage - Class A
    - Double balanced
    - Impedance matched
    - Fully discrete
    Output Stage - Class A
    - Balanced or Single-ended*
    *Only in single-ended mode when 1/4" jack is used
    Chassis Dimensions
    Width: 17 in (432 mm)
    Depth: 12 in (305 mm)
    Chassis Height (Without Feet): 2.45 in (62 mm)
    Stack height: 3.05 in (77 mm)
    Weight: 31 lbs (14 kg)
    Product Feet: The Viton Foot (M6X1 Thread)
    Shipping Dimensions
    Width: 22 in (558.8 mm)
    Depth: 18 in (457.2 mm)
    Height: 7 in (177.8 mm)
    Weight: 40 lbs (18.2 kg)
    Included Accessories
    Product manual
    Grounding cable
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    Re: *NEW* MSB Premier Headphone Amp

    there is no control link between an MSB headphone amp and MSB dac. only an XLR interconnect; and the headphone amp has a front button that toggles the output either to the pass-thru (speakers) or to the headphones. the amp does not know where it got the signal.

    certainly the dac remote helps to switch the input. but that is not required to switch the input/pass-thru. that remote is the only 'control' function involved.

    an MSB headphone amp is not a door-stop without an MSB dac.

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    Re: *NEW* MSB Premier Headphone Amp

    Good stuff Mike. Silly for MSB to add a statement in the specs sheet about only usable with MSB products.
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    Re: *NEW* MSB Premier Headphone Amp

    Quote Originally Posted by Ritmo View Post
    Good stuff Mike. Silly for MSB to add a statement in the specs sheet about only usable with MSB products.
    how it was put to me by Vince (National Sales Manager for MSB) was that the (electrostatic) Headphone amp originally was not intended to be a product at all, more an analytical tool for their work, but it performed so well they decided to offer it. then they added the Ref version. yet they don't yet know how far to jump into the whole 'headphone market'.

    that disclaimer does give them cover on where things go. if someone plugs a source at line level into the MSB amp without volume attenuation and destroys some headphones or damages their ears then MSB might be in a bad spot. and remember.......common sense is just not that common.

    headphone customers wanting a volume control designed into it, and whether the sales volume ROI might justify that. it's a big but very fickle market at the top level.......gear of the month/week/day/minute. don't blame them for being a bit cautious.

    audiophile market is a bit more grounded.....and they know it.

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