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    Re: MSB Premier arrives as Suncoast Audio

    Quote Originally Posted by rhmmmm View Post
    Thanks for everyone’s help! I am the proud new owner of a black Premier with dual discrete power supplies, network renderer module and Femto 93 clock! Loving it and the burn in is real on this!
    congratulations. Owned my Premier for many months now and the thrill has not diminished. Just ordered the Femto 93 clock. Can't imagine it can be better though. We will see next week when it arrives
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    Re: MSB Premier arrives as Suncoast Audio

    Quote Originally Posted by Billt1 View Post
    congratulations. Owned my Premier for many months now and the thrill has not diminished. Just ordered the Femto 93 clock. Can't imagine it can be better though. We will see next week when it arrives
    Can’t wait to hear the differences. Would also like to hear if (and how much) burn in on the clock makes a difference.

  3. #103

    Re: MSB Premier arrives as Suncoast Audio

    Roon posted on their Instagram page @roonlabs that MSB DACs are now officially Roon certified and to download new firmware “today” (Dec 30). This is great news because my Premier, running 14.12 shows up in Roon Audio Settings as being “Uncertified”...except there is no new firmware I can find beyond 14.12 which was posted 11/1/18 on the MSB site.

    Am I missing something?

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    Re: MSB Premier arrives as Suncoast Audio

    Quote Originally Posted by rhmmmm View Post
    Roon posted on their Instagram page @roonlabs that MSB DACs are now officially Roon certifies and to download new firmware “today” (Dec 30). This sounded great because my Premier, running 14.12 shows up in Roon Audio Settings as being “Uncertified”...except there is no new firmware I can find beyond 14.12 which was posted 11/1/18.

    Am I missing something?
    Reboot your MSB DAC and see what happens. I got the updates on my end. They are pushed through automatically. I haven’t checked the Premier though. This was on the S2.
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    Re: MSB Premier arrives as Suncoast Audio

    So the Select now shows as “Certified” in Roon?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Reboot your MSB DAC and see what happens. I got the updates on my end. They are pushed through automatically. I haven’t checked the Premier though. This was on the S2.

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    Re: MSB Premier arrives as Suncoast Audio

    Quote Originally Posted by rhmmmm View Post
    So the Select now shows as “Certified” in Roon?
    Yes and a new icon for it.


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    Re: MSB Premier arrives as Suncoast Audio

    I just turned my Premier DAC on and Roon no longer shows it as being “uncertified”. I didn’t notice anything to suggest anything was downloaded.
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    Re: MSB Premier arrives as Suncoast Audio

    Quote Originally Posted by AJR View Post
    I just turned my Premier DAC on and Roon no longer shows it as being “uncertified”. I didn’t notice anything to suggest anything was downloaded.
    Updates are pushed out. Easy peasy.


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    Re: MSB Premier arrives as Suncoast Audio

    Thanks for the feedback! I’ll try when I’m back in the 1st! Appreciate it!

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    Re: MSB Premier arrives as Suncoast Audio

    Quote Originally Posted by rhmmmm View Post
    So the Select now shows as “Certified” in Roon?
    Reboot your Premier.


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    Re: MSB Premier arrives as Suncoast Audio

    The Roon post says “Update your device to the latest firmware to get started,” implying an update action is needed...nice to hear it’s just a reboot.

    Are you still running firmware 14.12 on the DAC? Or did the RendererV2 firmware get auto updated instead?

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    Re: MSB Premier arrives as Suncoast Audio

    Quote Originally Posted by AJR View Post
    I just turned my Premier DAC on and Roon no longer shows it as being “uncertified”. I didn’t notice anything to suggest anything was downloaded.
    Sorry, I am wrong. It still says uncertified in the “Audio” tab in Roon. I am running the latest firmware (14.12) and have rebooted the Premier several times. Wonder if no automatic renderer update is because my MSB is connected (via ethernet) to my Innuos and not directly to my router. Will try.
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    Re: MSB Premier arrives as Suncoast Audio

    Didn’t work for me. Connected the MSB renderer directly to my router and waited 20 mins or so with the MSB idle. Still says “uncertified” in Roon.
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    Re: MSB Premier arrives as Suncoast Audio

    My S2 certified itself a few days ago but in actuality nothing other than it's logo in Roon has changed...works the same.

    If anything, integration with my iPad hangs a bit now and is slower
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    Re: MSB Premier arrives as Suncoast Audio

    There were 40+ updates according to MSB, mostly non-essential code related to Roon.
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    Re: MSB Premier arrives as Suncoast Audio

    It would be nice for MSB to figure a way to let their customers know what is actively going on.....
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    Re: MSB Premier arrives as Suncoast Audio

    Quote Originally Posted by Kingsrule View Post
    It would be nice for MSB to figure a way to let their customers know what is actively going on.....
    I will suggest an update summary be posted on their website.

    I’ll also find out when the Premier and Discrete updates are coming.
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    Re: MSB Premier arrives as Suncoast Audio

    Thanks Mike. Am surprised there is still no Renderer 2 manual on the website. I didn’t know it is supposed to automatically update itself. Wonder why it does for the S2 but not the Premier (unless others have found that it does?). If it is a Renderer 2 update and not a firmware update, it should not matter what the MSB model is, no?
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    Re: MSB Premier arrives as Suncoast Audio

    But pleased to hear from kingsrule that the update does not change the sound quality
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    Re: MSB Premier arrives as Suncoast Audio

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    I will suggest an update summary be posted on their website.

    I’ll also find out when the Premier and Discrete updates are coming.
    Mike - Recommend MSB to issue “release notes” which is a standard practice for technology companies. Surprised they don’t do that.
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    Re: MSB Premier arrives as Suncoast Audio

    Quote Originally Posted by Ritmo View Post
    Mike - Recommend MSB to issue “release notes” which is a standard practice for technology companies. Surprised they don’t do that.
    Will pass it along.


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    Re: MSB Premier arrives as Suncoast Audio

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    I will suggest an update summary be posted on their website.

    I’ll also find out when the Premier and Discrete updates are coming.
    . Hope mine arrives fully update especially in regards to Roon .
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    Re: MSB Premier arrives as Suncoast Audio

    Quote Originally Posted by veindoc View Post
    . Hope mine arrives fully update especially in regards to Roon .
    Yes indeed.

    I’ve already passed along the comments this morning. All good feedback. Thanks guys!


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    Re: MSB Premier arrives as Suncoast Audio

    My Premier has not updated to be ROON certified as of 8 o'clock this morning. That may be because I have been running 24/7 trying to break in Femto 93 clock. I stopped the music now to allow access and will check when I get home for lunch . Being non certified never seemed to interfere with ROON interface use. Maybe there are certified features I do not know or would care about?
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    Re: MSB Premier arrives as Suncoast Audio

    Maybe I should start a new topic to talk about my Femto 93 clock experience ?
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    Re: MSB Premier arrives as Suncoast Audio

    Quote Originally Posted by Billt1 View Post
    Maybe I should start a new topic to talk about my Femto 93 clock experience ?
    Look forward to it!
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    Re: MSB Premier arrives as Suncoast Audio

    Quote Originally Posted by KeithR View Post
    Look forward to it!
    I am picking up a powerbase from my dealer to home demo so I am going to wait while I also let the Femto 93 clock break in further before I offer my impressions . Working with a dealer is great as I can try before I buy. I didn't expect to own an MSB DAC until my dealer almost demanded I try MSB before buying anything else. He was so right.
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    Re: MSB Premier arrives as Suncoast Audio

    Quote Originally Posted by Kingsrule View Post
    My S2 certified itself a few days ago but in actuality nothing other than it's logo in Roon has changed...works the same.
    +1

    I don’t see any other changes either.

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    Re: MSB Premier arrives as Suncoast Audio

    If you have time when you write the impressions, would you please try to include as many configurations as you can?

    -Base clock vs Femto clock with Discrete PS
    -Base clock w/discrete ps vs base clock Powerbase
    -Femto clock with discrete ps vs Femto clock with Powerbase
    -And maybe an ultimate comparison of the Premier w/base clock/discrete PS vs Femto clock and Powerbase?

    Really, anything you write would be helpful, just a wishlist!

    Thanks!

    Quote Originally Posted by Billt1 View Post
    I am picking up a powerbase from my dealer to home demo so I am going to wait while I also let the Femto 93 clock break in further before I offer my impressions . Working with a dealer is great as I can try before I buy. I didn't expect to own an MSB DAC until my dealer almost demanded I try MSB before buying anything else. He was so right.

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    Re: MSB Premier arrives as Suncoast Audio

    Any news on Roon certification for the Discrete and Premier owners? I am still seeing “Uncertified” in Roon after a few power cycles while/after being on and connected to the Internet for weeks.

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    Re: MSB Premier arrives as Suncoast Audio

    Quote Originally Posted by rhmmmm View Post
    Any news on Roon certification for the Discrete and Premier owners? I am still seeing “Uncertified” in Roon after a few power cycles while/after being on and connected to the Internet for weeks.
    My Premier has not updated to certified either
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    ROON Nucleus + server ...............................SME 20/3A
    MSB Premier DAC / V2 Renderer ...................SME V arm
    VAC Signature MkII SE Preamp .....................Dynavector TE Kaitora Rua
    Aesthetix Altas Signature Stereo Amp.......... Sutherland current gain phono stage prototype now called Phono loco
    Wilson Audio Sasha II................................
    REL G1 Mk II (pair) Subs............................ Bricasti M1 SE DAC
    Transparent Audio Gen 5 Reference........... T+A PA3000HV Integrated
    .................................................. ...............Stenheim Alumime Three
    .................................................. ...............Audience Front Row

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    Re: MSB Premier arrives as Suncoast Audio

    Quote Originally Posted by rhmmmm View Post
    If you have time when you write the impressions, would you please try to include as many configurations as you can?

    -Base clock vs Femto clock with Discrete PS
    -Base clock w/discrete ps vs base clock Powerbase
    -Femto clock with discrete ps vs Femto clock with Powerbase
    -And maybe an ultimate comparison of the Premier w/base clock/discrete PS vs Femto clock and Powerbase?

    Really, anything you write would be helpful, just a wishlist!

    Thanks!
    In my auditions, the Premier + mono power supplies is the value point. If you want an upgrade, get the Femto before the Powerbase.
    Brinkmann Bardo w/ 47 Labs MC Bee cart, MSB Premier DAC --> Music First Baby Reference v2 --> Ampzilla 2000, 2nd Edition --> YG Acoustics Hailey 2.2

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