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    CD Transports: End of an era

    Until I receive a turntable, my CDs still trump streaming. But unfortunately another company is pushing them by the wayside. Thankfully such companies as Aqua and also the Metronome AQWO Series are still producing some good units.

    CD Transports: End of an era. - MSB Technology
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    Re: CD Transports: End of an era

    They run out of drive mechanisms. Their transports have been Oppo based. Oppo has discontinued making their players 2 years ago or so.
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    Re: CD Transports: End of an era

    Quote Originally Posted by Elberoth View Post
    They run out of drive mechanisms. Their transports have been Oppo based. Oppo has discontinued making their players 2 years ago or so.
    Yes. But with the skills of MSB they could have planned and should have developed some new - even better - drive mechanisms. Admittedly, I'm disappointed as that was to be my end game SACD player.

    A friend from the Audiophile Society up here in the FL Panhandle is dropping off 1,000 + free CDs tonight that he has collected from the 80s forward. Can't wait!!! I have a Luxman D-08u at present, but will want a better one soon.
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    Re: CD Transports: End of an era

    Quote Originally Posted by Calvin View Post
    Yes. But with the skills of MSB they could have planned and should have developed some new - even better - drive mechanisms. Admittedly, I'm disappointed as that was to be my end game SACD player.

    A friend from the Audiophile Society up here in the FL Panhandle is dropping off 1,000 + free CDs tonight that he has collected from the 80s forward. Can't wait!!! I have a Luxman D-08u at present, but will want a better one soon.
    They still have plenty of supply.


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    Re: CD Transports: End of an era

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    They still have plenty of supply.


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    Ok. On another forum someone said MSB has sold their final Select transport - i.e. no more to be had …

    I’ll call you later this week.
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    Re: CD Transports: End of an era

    Quote Originally Posted by Calvin View Post
    Ok. On another forum someone said MSB has sold their final Select transport - i.e. no more to be had …

    I’ll call you later this week.
    Not true. Just talked to MSB to confirm.


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    Re: CD Transports: End of an era

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Not true. Just talked to MSB to confirm.


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    Thanks. Source on other forummust have been wrong …
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    Re: CD Transports: End of an era

    Quote Originally Posted by Calvin View Post
    Thanks. Source on other forummust have been wrong …
    Those guys usually are.


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    CD players, CD Transports… take a hint guys… if leaders in the field are letting go of them, that should send everyone a signal! They are the new cassette players!!!

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    Re: CD Transports: End of an era

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    They still have plenty of supply.

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    Yes, but they need to keep them for warranty purposes. Those Select transports will be probably in use for the next 20 years or more.

    You cannot continue selling a product which contains a discontinued part indefinately. Especially, if the part happens to be a consumable.

    MSB is too small of a company (like waaaaay to small) to even attempt making their own transport. Not to mention the fact, they would never break even selling them.

    BTW - if I had a Select transport, I would look for and buy a new old stock Oppo player, to keep as spare.
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    Re: CD Transports: End of an era

    Quote Originally Posted by Elberoth View Post
    Yes, but they need to keep them for warranty purposes. Those Select transports will be probably in use for the next 20 years or more.

    You cannot continue selling a product which contains a discontinued part indefinately. Especially, if the part happens to be a consumable.

    MSB is too small of a company (like waaaaay to small) to even attempt making their own transport. Not to mention the fact, they would never break even selling them.

    BTW - if I had a Select transport, I would look for and buy a new old stock Oppo player, to keep as spare.
    Adam - We specifically talked about selling new transports, not how many drives do you have left for warranty - but selling new transports. They told me “we still have several to produce new transports - keep selling”. At some point yes, they will have to stop selling them for new transports. But FOR NOW, it’s full steam ahead.

    I think the announcement is just to get some of those on the fence about the MSB transport to shit or get off the pot now because soon, it will be taken off the list. I could see them going away by the end of the year myself.
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    Re: CD Transports: End of an era

    Quote Originally Posted by nicoff View Post
    CD players, CD Transports… take a hint guys… if leaders in the field are letting go of them, that should send everyone a signal! They are the new cassette players!!!
    MSB is not a leader in the transport/player field. Their primary products are DACs. They do expensive transports to complement their DACs. The big boys are mostly Japanese (e.g., Esoteric, Luxman, Accuphase, Denon, etc) where CDs/SACDs are still a big deal. However, worth noting that Gryphon just recently brought a high end $40K CD player to market. There are still a lot of us left who enjoy CDs and SACDs on transports/players with competitive SQ and less technical complexity than competing alternatives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elberoth View Post
    Yes, but they need to keep them for warranty purposes.
    BTW - if I had a Select transport, I would look for and buy a new old stock Oppo player, to keep as spare.
    Yes good point Adam but risky--I'd bet a dollar MSB would modify the OPPO drive to their exacting standards before installation ?

    If so the standard drive would be possibly superfluous to full performance structure?

    Its just I was warned against such a similar move by a Naim factory Tech on my intention to cover myself and purchase a CDM Pro-2 Drive backup off-site for my Player.

    Evidently Factory modifications over the stock Phillips drives were mandatory to bring the unit up to specs maintained for performance required.

    Anyway food for thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GSOphile View Post

    There are still a lot of us left who enjoy CDs and SACDs on transports/players with competitive SQ and less technical complexity than competing alternatives.
    Agree that there are SOME people (not necessarily a LOT) who still want that.

    Sounds like the Cadillac car dilemma that GM faced when they realized that they had to do an overhaul of the product since most Cadillac buyers were old and had already bought their last Cadillac.

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    Re: CD Transports: End of an era

    Quote Originally Posted by nicoff View Post
    CD players, CD Transports… take a hint guys… if leaders in the field are letting go of them, that should send everyone a signal!
    The leader in the field is Esoteric, and they have no intention of discontinuing disc transports. That is the signal you should be tuned in to.
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    Re: CD Transports: End of an era

    So, what will the main music source/s be, say 10 years, from now? If CDs and CD transports disappear what does that leave? Heck, even streaming seems tenuous right now. Maybe it's just growing pains. Vinyl is a very small niche market. What else is there?
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    Re: CD Transports: End of an era

    CD's and CD transports are not disappearing.
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    Re: CD Transports: End of an era

    Quote Originally Posted by bluegrassphile View Post
    So, what will the main music source/s be, say 10 years, from now? If CDs and CD transports disappear what does that leave? Heck, even streaming seems tenuous right now. Maybe it's just growing pains. Vinyl is a very small niche market. What else is there?
    I haven't bought a CD in the last 2-3 years. However, I buy (download) two new albums every week from HDTracks.
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    Re: CD Transports: End of an era

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueFox View Post
    I haven't bought a CD in the last 2-3 years. However, I buy (download) two new albums every week from HDTracks.
    Buying high def downloads… that is another method that saw its peak a few years ago and that now has become less appealing. I personally have not bought a high def download in several years.

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