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Thread: New amplifier on its way!
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April 25, 2023, 11:54 AM #1
New amplifier on its way!
I decided to order myself a new amp to match my C49. My room is rather small, and I am using the little (but amazing) KEF LS-50 Metas (with 2x matching KC62's). I was considering the MI502 but after talking with McIntosh for a bit decided the MC152 will do the trick for me. This will be replacing my vintage MC7100W and should be a very nice upgrade. It will also look really nice in my Mc stack!
McIntosh C49, MC152, MR85, R778 | T+A DAC 8 DSD | KEF LS50 Meta w/S2, KC62 (x2) | Rega RP8, Ania Pro, NEO PSU | Technics SL-1500C | Audio Technica VM750ML | Hexmat Eclipse, Yellow Bird, Molekula, Molekula Mini | Pro-Ject VC-E | Falcon NW PC Server (Roon Core & HQPlayer) | Microsoft Surface Pro 6 (Roon Controller) | Wyred 4 Sound ISO Recovery, DC Recovery | Abyss Diana Phi | Schiit Jotunheim 2 | Astell&Kern SE200 | Oppo BDP105
“One of the great challenges in life is knowing enough to think you're right but not enough to know you're wrong”
"You can't use reason to convince anyone out of an argument that they didn't use reason to get into"
― Neil deGrasse Tyson
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April 25, 2023, 11:59 AM #2
Re: New amplifier on its way!
Congrats! Post pics when you receive it.
"We are all billionaires because of the huge piles sweet dough rolling in from our participation in the ongoing campaign to suck your collective brains through a stirrer-straw." - PTA Editorial Staff
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April 25, 2023, 12:01 PM #3
Re: New amplifier on its way!
McIntosh C49, MC152, MR85, R778 | T+A DAC 8 DSD | KEF LS50 Meta w/S2, KC62 (x2) | Rega RP8, Ania Pro, NEO PSU | Technics SL-1500C | Audio Technica VM750ML | Hexmat Eclipse, Yellow Bird, Molekula, Molekula Mini | Pro-Ject VC-E | Falcon NW PC Server (Roon Core & HQPlayer) | Microsoft Surface Pro 6 (Roon Controller) | Wyred 4 Sound ISO Recovery, DC Recovery | Abyss Diana Phi | Schiit Jotunheim 2 | Astell&Kern SE200 | Oppo BDP105
“One of the great challenges in life is knowing enough to think you're right but not enough to know you're wrong”
"You can't use reason to convince anyone out of an argument that they didn't use reason to get into"
― Neil deGrasse Tyson
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April 25, 2023, 12:15 PM #4
Re: New amplifier on its way!
"We are all billionaires because of the huge piles sweet dough rolling in from our participation in the ongoing campaign to suck your collective brains through a stirrer-straw." - PTA Editorial Staff
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April 25, 2023, 12:51 PM #5
Re: New amplifier on its way!
Congrats!!
Jock
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April 25, 2023, 04:53 PM #6
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Re: New amplifier on its way!
Randy-
Nice choice!
Nothing like a Mc amp to match up with a Mc pre.
Yes, us Mc fans are a loyal bunch!
Listen ib good Health!
JohnAKA J2Ordan
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April 27, 2023, 05:59 PM #7
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Re: New amplifier on its way!
Shaking my head, LOL Just teasing, have fun.
Now that you are in the Midwest maybe we will see you at AXPONA someday.Aurender ACS10 w/Audioquest Diamond USB, Esoteric N05xd
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April 27, 2023, 07:04 PM #8
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Re: New amplifier on its way!
$10k of pre/amp driving $1500 speakers.
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April 28, 2023, 10:40 AM #9
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Enjoy! Had a McIntosh amp for a few years and it was a lot of fun!
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April 28, 2023, 10:53 AM #10
Re: New amplifier on its way!
Micro Seiki SX-8000 air bearing table, SME 312s arm, SME 3012R arn, Dynavector XV-1s cartridge, Lyra Etna SL cartridge, ARC Ref 3 phono stage, Otari MX-55 2 track R2R, Ampex 350 tape repros, Roon Nucleus Plus music server, HiFi Rose 150B DAC, ARC Ref 6, ARC Ref 75 with KT-150s, Parasound JC5 amp , JBL 4345 speakers, Viero Equilibro Level 3 speaker cables, and Definitive Technology Ref subs.
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April 28, 2023, 12:37 PM #11
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Re: New amplifier on its way!
Aurender ACS10 w/Audioquest Diamond USB, Esoteric N05xd
Mark Levinson #526, 534 & JBL 4367's
Clearaudio Performance DC w/Maestro cart
Clarus Concerto & their Crimson cables
HT: Marantz AV8003, Linn 5125, JBL SAM3ha, Revel s30,
SVS PC13 Ultra
Transparent, Analysis Plus & Tributaries. PS Audio filtering
Sony XBR-75X940D & BDP
Parasound P6, MBL 8006b, Artisan speakers/subwoofer
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April 29, 2023, 10:53 AM #12
Re: New amplifier on its way!
The Kef Uniq driver is really sensitive to electronics. My R105/3's sounded pretty rough until I found the right components. The difference the Mc611's made to my Blades at low levels, .6-6 watts is the most exciting audible improvement I've heard in my system in 5 years! Even more than swapping out popular speakers. I hope you get the same results.
KEF Blade, Mc-611's, C49 rega jupiter, roon nucleus, revox tuner. Meridian dsp8000 se upgrade, meridian 218 zone controller VA Beethoven's, Hegel h360.
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April 30, 2023, 10:19 AM #13
Re: New amplifier on its way!
It's not the price... but actually the speaker setup is about $5000. $1600 for LS50 Metas, $500 for matching stands, $1500 each for the subs... so give or take $5k.
I prefer small speakers in my small room... I have had floor standers, but for me the small ones work better. The Metas are fantastic. There is a good reason that KEF reps refer to them as the stand mounted Blades (I do not necessarily agree with that), but they really are great, and KEF has listed them as part of their flagship lineup.
I grew up in the shadows of the Mc factory in Binghamton and wanting a full Mc setup is sort of in my blood... also McIntosh and KEF is a match that works really well together.McIntosh C49, MC152, MR85, R778 | T+A DAC 8 DSD | KEF LS50 Meta w/S2, KC62 (x2) | Rega RP8, Ania Pro, NEO PSU | Technics SL-1500C | Audio Technica VM750ML | Hexmat Eclipse, Yellow Bird, Molekula, Molekula Mini | Pro-Ject VC-E | Falcon NW PC Server (Roon Core & HQPlayer) | Microsoft Surface Pro 6 (Roon Controller) | Wyred 4 Sound ISO Recovery, DC Recovery | Abyss Diana Phi | Schiit Jotunheim 2 | Astell&Kern SE200 | Oppo BDP105
“One of the great challenges in life is knowing enough to think you're right but not enough to know you're wrong”
"You can't use reason to convince anyone out of an argument that they didn't use reason to get into"
― Neil deGrasse Tyson
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June 10, 2023, 09:19 AM #14
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At this point I am probably not going to be getting the new amplifier. I have no idea what is going on with the dealer here in Wichita, but it now appears as if he took my money and has never ordered my amplifier.
He is still listed as a dealer on McIntosh's website. I spoke with McIntosh yesterday and they are not at all happy. They have plenty of the amps in stock. They have spoken to his representative and passed along what has happened. They will not take it lightly. I have also spoken with American Express. I am also considering calling the DA because as far as I am concerned this dealer has stolen my money and has not ordered the amp from McIntosh.McIntosh C49, MC152, MR85, R778 | T+A DAC 8 DSD | KEF LS50 Meta w/S2, KC62 (x2) | Rega RP8, Ania Pro, NEO PSU | Technics SL-1500C | Audio Technica VM750ML | Hexmat Eclipse, Yellow Bird, Molekula, Molekula Mini | Pro-Ject VC-E | Falcon NW PC Server (Roon Core & HQPlayer) | Microsoft Surface Pro 6 (Roon Controller) | Wyred 4 Sound ISO Recovery, DC Recovery | Abyss Diana Phi | Schiit Jotunheim 2 | Astell&Kern SE200 | Oppo BDP105
“One of the great challenges in life is knowing enough to think you're right but not enough to know you're wrong”
"You can't use reason to convince anyone out of an argument that they didn't use reason to get into"
― Neil deGrasse Tyson
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June 10, 2023, 09:22 AM #15
Re: New amplifier on its way!
Micro Seiki SX-8000 air bearing table, SME 312s arm, SME 3012R arn, Dynavector XV-1s cartridge, Lyra Etna SL cartridge, ARC Ref 3 phono stage, Otari MX-55 2 track R2R, Ampex 350 tape repros, Roon Nucleus Plus music server, HiFi Rose 150B DAC, ARC Ref 6, ARC Ref 75 with KT-150s, Parasound JC5 amp , JBL 4345 speakers, Viero Equilibro Level 3 speaker cables, and Definitive Technology Ref subs.
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June 10, 2023, 10:17 AM #16
Re: New amplifier on its way!
I actually spoke with AE yesterday (we have been with them for over 30 years). They are crediting my account and then going back after him.
I simply do not understand how a dealer (in good standing with McIntosh) could simply take my money and then never order the amplifier for me. Since it is a trade in program, I am required to purchase from one of their brick-and-mortar stores.... soooo
McIntosh is pissed... to put it mildly....McIntosh C49, MC152, MR85, R778 | T+A DAC 8 DSD | KEF LS50 Meta w/S2, KC62 (x2) | Rega RP8, Ania Pro, NEO PSU | Technics SL-1500C | Audio Technica VM750ML | Hexmat Eclipse, Yellow Bird, Molekula, Molekula Mini | Pro-Ject VC-E | Falcon NW PC Server (Roon Core & HQPlayer) | Microsoft Surface Pro 6 (Roon Controller) | Wyred 4 Sound ISO Recovery, DC Recovery | Abyss Diana Phi | Schiit Jotunheim 2 | Astell&Kern SE200 | Oppo BDP105
“One of the great challenges in life is knowing enough to think you're right but not enough to know you're wrong”
"You can't use reason to convince anyone out of an argument that they didn't use reason to get into"
― Neil deGrasse Tyson
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June 10, 2023, 11:01 AM #17
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Aurender ACS10 w/Audioquest Diamond USB, Esoteric N05xd
Mark Levinson #526, 534 & JBL 4367's
Clearaudio Performance DC w/Maestro cart
Clarus Concerto & their Crimson cables
HT: Marantz AV8003, Linn 5125, JBL SAM3ha, Revel s30,
SVS PC13 Ultra
Transparent, Analysis Plus & Tributaries. PS Audio filtering
Sony XBR-75X940D & BDP
Parasound P6, MBL 8006b, Artisan speakers/subwoofer
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June 10, 2023, 12:42 PM #18
Re: New amplifier on its way!
Randy - really sorry to hear about this. I have purchased several Mac pieces from Audio Classics in NY, and they were always very prompt, honest, reliable. BTW, I have a MC 275 Mk3 if you are interested.
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Mojo Audio Deja Vu Evo Universal Music Server > or McIntosh MVP-901 > Mojo Audio Mystique Evo Dac > Raven Audio Osprey Integrated Tube Amp > Harbeth P3ESR
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Shunyata Denali D6000/SV2>Mojo Audio Deja Vu Evo Universal Music Server > or Jay's Audio CDT2-Mk3 > TotalDac D1-Tube > VAC Master Preamp > VAC Master 300 > JM Reynaud Orfeo Jubile
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Xfinity Cable Box or Oppo BDP105D > McIntosh C2300 Preamp > McIntosh MC302 Amp > JM Reynaud Offrande Supreme
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June 10, 2023, 01:24 PM #19
Re: New amplifier on its way!
I would post a review on Google (very powerful), file with the BBB, and file a police report.
If nothing else it will annoy the crap out of him.
I have zero tolerance for criminals."We are all billionaires because of the huge piles sweet dough rolling in from our participation in the ongoing campaign to suck your collective brains through a stirrer-straw." - PTA Editorial Staff
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June 10, 2023, 04:08 PM #20
Re: New amplifier on its way!
Since Randy had his account reimbursed for the cost of the amp, it's now between the cc company and the seller. Randy has been made whole so I don't see any since in Joe calling Johnny Law.
Micro Seiki SX-8000 air bearing table, SME 312s arm, SME 3012R arn, Dynavector XV-1s cartridge, Lyra Etna SL cartridge, ARC Ref 3 phono stage, Otari MX-55 2 track R2R, Ampex 350 tape repros, Roon Nucleus Plus music server, HiFi Rose 150B DAC, ARC Ref 6, ARC Ref 75 with KT-150s, Parasound JC5 amp , JBL 4345 speakers, Viero Equilibro Level 3 speaker cables, and Definitive Technology Ref subs.
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June 10, 2023, 04:34 PM #21
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I probably won't file a police report, however, there does remain the fact that I have waited over a month and being lied to. Also, I have never had to go to these extremes with a retailer prior to this.
What if AE cannot get him to make good on the funds to them. Will they come back and expect me to pay?
I would say there has definitely been some mental anguish. I cannot stand when someone takes advantage of my trusting personality and then I wrestle with it afterwards. I cannot stand liars, cheats, and criminals. My dad raised me on the principle that my word is my bond. If I say I am going to do something you can take it to the bank, I will. I hate being cheated.McIntosh C49, MC152, MR85, R778 | T+A DAC 8 DSD | KEF LS50 Meta w/S2, KC62 (x2) | Rega RP8, Ania Pro, NEO PSU | Technics SL-1500C | Audio Technica VM750ML | Hexmat Eclipse, Yellow Bird, Molekula, Molekula Mini | Pro-Ject VC-E | Falcon NW PC Server (Roon Core & HQPlayer) | Microsoft Surface Pro 6 (Roon Controller) | Wyred 4 Sound ISO Recovery, DC Recovery | Abyss Diana Phi | Schiit Jotunheim 2 | Astell&Kern SE200 | Oppo BDP105
“One of the great challenges in life is knowing enough to think you're right but not enough to know you're wrong”
"You can't use reason to convince anyone out of an argument that they didn't use reason to get into"
― Neil deGrasse Tyson
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June 10, 2023, 04:43 PM #22
Re: New amplifier on its way!
Just because you got refunded by AE doesn't mean he is legally in the clear. Think about it - that means car thieves could never be charged with a crime as insurance reimburses you for the cost of the stolen car. Right??
He still engaged in fraud. And having the detectives show up at his door - whether they arrest him or not is just the hassle he deserves."We are all billionaires because of the huge piles sweet dough rolling in from our participation in the ongoing campaign to suck your collective brains through a stirrer-straw." - PTA Editorial Staff
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June 10, 2023, 04:49 PM #23
Re: New amplifier on its way!
McIntosh C49, MC152, MR85, R778 | T+A DAC 8 DSD | KEF LS50 Meta w/S2, KC62 (x2) | Rega RP8, Ania Pro, NEO PSU | Technics SL-1500C | Audio Technica VM750ML | Hexmat Eclipse, Yellow Bird, Molekula, Molekula Mini | Pro-Ject VC-E | Falcon NW PC Server (Roon Core & HQPlayer) | Microsoft Surface Pro 6 (Roon Controller) | Wyred 4 Sound ISO Recovery, DC Recovery | Abyss Diana Phi | Schiit Jotunheim 2 | Astell&Kern SE200 | Oppo BDP105
“One of the great challenges in life is knowing enough to think you're right but not enough to know you're wrong”
"You can't use reason to convince anyone out of an argument that they didn't use reason to get into"
― Neil deGrasse Tyson
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June 10, 2023, 05:31 PM #24
Re: New amplifier on its way!
"We are all billionaires because of the huge piles sweet dough rolling in from our participation in the ongoing campaign to suck your collective brains through a stirrer-straw." - PTA Editorial Staff
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June 10, 2023, 05:44 PM #25
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Randy, the cc company will not come back on you. If you get screwed on a cc purchase and have the paperwork to back it up, you get your money back. The cc will go after the company that screwed their client. They have lawyers.
This is why you don't want to use debit cards. If you get screwed using a debit card, you eat it.Micro Seiki SX-8000 air bearing table, SME 312s arm, SME 3012R arn, Dynavector XV-1s cartridge, Lyra Etna SL cartridge, ARC Ref 3 phono stage, Otari MX-55 2 track R2R, Ampex 350 tape repros, Roon Nucleus Plus music server, HiFi Rose 150B DAC, ARC Ref 6, ARC Ref 75 with KT-150s, Parasound JC5 amp , JBL 4345 speakers, Viero Equilibro Level 3 speaker cables, and Definitive Technology Ref subs.
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June 10, 2023, 08:15 PM #26
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Thanks for that last post mep. I thought a debt card had the same protections as a cc and now you've given my something to research.
KEF Blade, Mc-611's, C49 rega jupiter, roon nucleus, revox tuner. Meridian dsp8000 se upgrade, meridian 218 zone controller VA Beethoven's, Hegel h360.
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June 10, 2023, 08:30 PM #27
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call the police for what, waste of time, you got the refund, story over. I would however post reviews on google/yelp/etc so others know the risk
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June 10, 2023, 08:36 PM #28
Re: New amplifier on its way!
My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
"We can hear everything we measure, but we can't measure everything we hear. Let your ears be your guide."
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June 10, 2023, 08:37 PM #29
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IDK, If I'm in a forgiving mood I might reach out and ask the dealer what happened on a phone call and give the chance to offer up a legit reason b4 I go "buyer beware" on him.
KEF Blade, Mc-611's, C49 rega jupiter, roon nucleus, revox tuner. Meridian dsp8000 se upgrade, meridian 218 zone controller VA Beethoven's, Hegel h360.
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June 10, 2023, 08:39 PM #30
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Burmester 911mk3 amplifier
Burmester 077 pre-amp
Burmester 217 turntable system
Burmester 111 streamer
Burmester 948 conditioner
Master Artist Signature Full Range Towers
Master Artist Signature Rack
Espirit Eureka cables
Silent Angel NX Network Switch
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June 10, 2023, 11:17 PM #31
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Could be a simple overlook though. Being ignored means calling them but no pick up or reply?
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June 10, 2023, 11:34 PM #32
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Yea, I will never, ever use as debit card. I use American Express exclusively because they stand behind you so good. So glad to hear that they will not come back on me if I can prove that they screwed me.
Thanks for saying so, because it is rare that I have ever had an issue like this. I still cannot believe he did this.McIntosh C49, MC152, MR85, R778 | T+A DAC 8 DSD | KEF LS50 Meta w/S2, KC62 (x2) | Rega RP8, Ania Pro, NEO PSU | Technics SL-1500C | Audio Technica VM750ML | Hexmat Eclipse, Yellow Bird, Molekula, Molekula Mini | Pro-Ject VC-E | Falcon NW PC Server (Roon Core & HQPlayer) | Microsoft Surface Pro 6 (Roon Controller) | Wyred 4 Sound ISO Recovery, DC Recovery | Abyss Diana Phi | Schiit Jotunheim 2 | Astell&Kern SE200 | Oppo BDP105
“One of the great challenges in life is knowing enough to think you're right but not enough to know you're wrong”
"You can't use reason to convince anyone out of an argument that they didn't use reason to get into"
― Neil deGrasse Tyson
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June 10, 2023, 11:37 PM #33
Re: New amplifier on its way!
McIntosh C49, MC152, MR85, R778 | T+A DAC 8 DSD | KEF LS50 Meta w/S2, KC62 (x2) | Rega RP8, Ania Pro, NEO PSU | Technics SL-1500C | Audio Technica VM750ML | Hexmat Eclipse, Yellow Bird, Molekula, Molekula Mini | Pro-Ject VC-E | Falcon NW PC Server (Roon Core & HQPlayer) | Microsoft Surface Pro 6 (Roon Controller) | Wyred 4 Sound ISO Recovery, DC Recovery | Abyss Diana Phi | Schiit Jotunheim 2 | Astell&Kern SE200 | Oppo BDP105
“One of the great challenges in life is knowing enough to think you're right but not enough to know you're wrong”
"You can't use reason to convince anyone out of an argument that they didn't use reason to get into"
― Neil deGrasse Tyson
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June 11, 2023, 03:07 PM #34
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June 11, 2023, 03:29 PM #35
Re: New amplifier on its way!
In this example it looks as though nothing is going to happen to him.
AE may or may not go after him for the money.
What's Mac going to do? Take them off their dealer list? He clearly isn't selling any of their stuff anyway or he wouldn't have done this.
People do this stuff primarily because there are no or very little consequences for their actions and they aren't held accountable. That's why most criminals are repeat offenders.
In my city for instance the DA refuses to charge anyone with theft if it's under $1,000."We are all billionaires because of the huge piles sweet dough rolling in from our participation in the ongoing campaign to suck your collective brains through a stirrer-straw." - PTA Editorial Staff
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June 11, 2023, 06:09 PM #36
Re: New amplifier on its way!
I have no idea why he did this. It makes little sense. If he is having personal issues, or money issues, how is my few thousand going to help him. However, I can assure you that my relating what he did will hurt his business. I have not decided yet, but there is a very good chance I will at the very least file a bad BB report and probably a local yelp and google review. I am considering my options and waiting to hear back from McIntosh on how they want to proceed. I do want the amplifier, but I will not purchase it if it has to go through his store at this point.
He will almost assuredly loose the McIntosh line. Even if he does not sell a lot, having their name on his website and a system to demonstrate in his store does indeed help his reputation and does indeed drive new business his way.McIntosh C49, MC152, MR85, R778 | T+A DAC 8 DSD | KEF LS50 Meta w/S2, KC62 (x2) | Rega RP8, Ania Pro, NEO PSU | Technics SL-1500C | Audio Technica VM750ML | Hexmat Eclipse, Yellow Bird, Molekula, Molekula Mini | Pro-Ject VC-E | Falcon NW PC Server (Roon Core & HQPlayer) | Microsoft Surface Pro 6 (Roon Controller) | Wyred 4 Sound ISO Recovery, DC Recovery | Abyss Diana Phi | Schiit Jotunheim 2 | Astell&Kern SE200 | Oppo BDP105
“One of the great challenges in life is knowing enough to think you're right but not enough to know you're wrong”
"You can't use reason to convince anyone out of an argument that they didn't use reason to get into"
― Neil deGrasse Tyson
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June 11, 2023, 06:36 PM #37
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I doubt McIntosh will do anything
Burmester 911mk3 amplifier
Burmester 077 pre-amp
Burmester 217 turntable system
Burmester 111 streamer
Burmester 948 conditioner
Master Artist Signature Full Range Towers
Master Artist Signature Rack
Espirit Eureka cables
Silent Angel NX Network Switch
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June 11, 2023, 06:46 PM #38
Re: New amplifier on its way!
My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
"We can hear everything we measure, but we can't measure everything we hear. Let your ears be your guide."
Dealer for: Aqua Hi-Fi, Aurender, AudioQuest Cables & Power Products, Berkeley Audio, Block Audio (distributor), Boulder Amplifiers, Bowers & Wilkins (B&W), Bryston, Clarisys Audio Loudspeakers (distributor), Classe’ Audio, Degritter Record Cleaning Machines, Esoteric, Finite Elemente, FirstWatt, Focal Loudspeakers and Headphones, GigaFoil, Harbeth Loudspeakers, Hegel, HiFi Man, Innuos, ISO Acoustics, Keces Power Supplies, Kharma Loudspeakers and Electronics, Kuzma Turntables, Lumin, Luxman, Magico Loudspeakers, MBL Speakers & Electronics, MSB Technologies, MySonicLabs Phono Cartridges, Nordost Cables, Ortofon, Pass Labs, Quadraspire, Rega Turntables and Electronics, Shunyata Research, STAX, Stein Music Products, Stillpoints, Soulution, VAC, Vicoustics, Viva Audio, VPI Industries, WireWorld Cables.
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June 11, 2023, 06:48 PM #39
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Burmester 911mk3 amplifier
Burmester 077 pre-amp
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Burmester 948 conditioner
Master Artist Signature Full Range Towers
Master Artist Signature Rack
Espirit Eureka cables
Silent Angel NX Network Switch
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June 11, 2023, 08:14 PM #40
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June 12, 2023, 08:32 AM #41
Re: New amplifier on its way!
McIntosh C49, MC152, MR85, R778 | T+A DAC 8 DSD | KEF LS50 Meta w/S2, KC62 (x2) | Rega RP8, Ania Pro, NEO PSU | Technics SL-1500C | Audio Technica VM750ML | Hexmat Eclipse, Yellow Bird, Molekula, Molekula Mini | Pro-Ject VC-E | Falcon NW PC Server (Roon Core & HQPlayer) | Microsoft Surface Pro 6 (Roon Controller) | Wyred 4 Sound ISO Recovery, DC Recovery | Abyss Diana Phi | Schiit Jotunheim 2 | Astell&Kern SE200 | Oppo BDP105
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June 12, 2023, 07:15 PM #42
Re: New amplifier on its way!
I have been on the phone with the McIntosh regional representative. He is trying to make it right. He has not been able to get a hold of Thomas; he has gone completely dark to him as well. He wants to see if he can get his dealer in Kansas City to deliver the amplifier to me, keeping the same deal. They would be doing McIntosh a favor traveling so far to deliver and setup, but they would make a little on the sale also. I told him I want the same deal that I paid the McIntosh authorized dealer for, and he totally understands. Hopefully he can get it worked out quickly since I have been waiting 6 weeks now.
McIntosh C49, MC152, MR85, R778 | T+A DAC 8 DSD | KEF LS50 Meta w/S2, KC62 (x2) | Rega RP8, Ania Pro, NEO PSU | Technics SL-1500C | Audio Technica VM750ML | Hexmat Eclipse, Yellow Bird, Molekula, Molekula Mini | Pro-Ject VC-E | Falcon NW PC Server (Roon Core & HQPlayer) | Microsoft Surface Pro 6 (Roon Controller) | Wyred 4 Sound ISO Recovery, DC Recovery | Abyss Diana Phi | Schiit Jotunheim 2 | Astell&Kern SE200 | Oppo BDP105
“One of the great challenges in life is knowing enough to think you're right but not enough to know you're wrong”
"You can't use reason to convince anyone out of an argument that they didn't use reason to get into"
― Neil deGrasse Tyson
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June 12, 2023, 07:46 PM #43
Re: New amplifier on its way!
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June 12, 2023, 08:33 PM #44
Re: New amplifier on its way!
Joe seemed to really want to make this right. He made a very big point that this is not the McIntosh way, and they are very careful with their dealers. He is shocked by what is going on and has not been able to talk with Thomas. He does want to make it right by me though.
McIntosh C49, MC152, MR85, R778 | T+A DAC 8 DSD | KEF LS50 Meta w/S2, KC62 (x2) | Rega RP8, Ania Pro, NEO PSU | Technics SL-1500C | Audio Technica VM750ML | Hexmat Eclipse, Yellow Bird, Molekula, Molekula Mini | Pro-Ject VC-E | Falcon NW PC Server (Roon Core & HQPlayer) | Microsoft Surface Pro 6 (Roon Controller) | Wyred 4 Sound ISO Recovery, DC Recovery | Abyss Diana Phi | Schiit Jotunheim 2 | Astell&Kern SE200 | Oppo BDP105
“One of the great challenges in life is knowing enough to think you're right but not enough to know you're wrong”
"You can't use reason to convince anyone out of an argument that they didn't use reason to get into"
― Neil deGrasse Tyson
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June 12, 2023, 08:55 PM #45
Re: New amplifier on its way!
I’m sorry you’ve had to go through all this worry and stress Randy.
I also hope, from a purely humanitarian view, that everything is ok with this Thomas fellow. Whoever he is.
Mc is a first class company, so I’m sure they will indeed make it right.
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"We can hear everything we measure, but we can't measure everything we hear. Let your ears be your guide."
Dealer for: Aqua Hi-Fi, Aurender, AudioQuest Cables & Power Products, Berkeley Audio, Block Audio (distributor), Boulder Amplifiers, Bowers & Wilkins (B&W), Bryston, Clarisys Audio Loudspeakers (distributor), Classe’ Audio, Degritter Record Cleaning Machines, Esoteric, Finite Elemente, FirstWatt, Focal Loudspeakers and Headphones, GigaFoil, Harbeth Loudspeakers, Hegel, HiFi Man, Innuos, ISO Acoustics, Keces Power Supplies, Kharma Loudspeakers and Electronics, Kuzma Turntables, Lumin, Luxman, Magico Loudspeakers, MBL Speakers & Electronics, MSB Technologies, MySonicLabs Phono Cartridges, Nordost Cables, Ortofon, Pass Labs, Quadraspire, Rega Turntables and Electronics, Shunyata Research, STAX, Stein Music Products, Stillpoints, Soulution, VAC, Vicoustics, Viva Audio, VPI Industries, WireWorld Cables.
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Phone: 941-932-0282
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June 12, 2023, 10:36 PM #46
Re: New amplifier on its way!
McIntosh C49, MC152, MR85, R778 | T+A DAC 8 DSD | KEF LS50 Meta w/S2, KC62 (x2) | Rega RP8, Ania Pro, NEO PSU | Technics SL-1500C | Audio Technica VM750ML | Hexmat Eclipse, Yellow Bird, Molekula, Molekula Mini | Pro-Ject VC-E | Falcon NW PC Server (Roon Core & HQPlayer) | Microsoft Surface Pro 6 (Roon Controller) | Wyred 4 Sound ISO Recovery, DC Recovery | Abyss Diana Phi | Schiit Jotunheim 2 | Astell&Kern SE200 | Oppo BDP105
“One of the great challenges in life is knowing enough to think you're right but not enough to know you're wrong”
"You can't use reason to convince anyone out of an argument that they didn't use reason to get into"
― Neil deGrasse Tyson
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June 13, 2023, 11:11 AM #47
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Re: New amplifier on its way!
Randy, do you need the dealer to actually hook it up for you? If that was not the case it seems Mac could just ship you the amp.
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June 13, 2023, 11:17 AM #48
Re: New amplifier on its way!
"We are all billionaires because of the huge piles sweet dough rolling in from our participation in the ongoing campaign to suck your collective brains through a stirrer-straw." - PTA Editorial Staff
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June 13, 2023, 11:21 AM #49
New amplifier on its way!
Avanti Audio
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June 15, 2023, 07:03 PM #50
Re: New amplifier on its way!
The McIntosh rep and the national sales manager for McIntosh were supposed to be having a Zoom meeting with the Kansas City store today. I have not heard anything as of yet.
McIntosh C49, MC152, MR85, R778 | T+A DAC 8 DSD | KEF LS50 Meta w/S2, KC62 (x2) | Rega RP8, Ania Pro, NEO PSU | Technics SL-1500C | Audio Technica VM750ML | Hexmat Eclipse, Yellow Bird, Molekula, Molekula Mini | Pro-Ject VC-E | Falcon NW PC Server (Roon Core & HQPlayer) | Microsoft Surface Pro 6 (Roon Controller) | Wyred 4 Sound ISO Recovery, DC Recovery | Abyss Diana Phi | Schiit Jotunheim 2 | Astell&Kern SE200 | Oppo BDP105
“One of the great challenges in life is knowing enough to think you're right but not enough to know you're wrong”
"You can't use reason to convince anyone out of an argument that they didn't use reason to get into"
― Neil deGrasse Tyson
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