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March 7, 2016, 03:37 PM #101Audioshark
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Re: 452 or 601's
how are you finding the tweeter? Does it need a little taming?
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I REALLY like Kimber and Siltech.
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March 7, 2016, 03:52 PM #102Senior Member
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Re: 452 or 601's
Exactly. Tweeters need taming and than sum....Especially with voices in the high range, needs smoothing and rounding. Bass is pretty good. Originally Posted by Mike
I don't like to spend much on cables but some decent around 200-300$ I could live with. I'm thinking of doing what Chuck Hinton suggested, 1 pair from 2ohm tap to the tweeters and 1 pair from 4ohm tap to the bass for each speakers.
That supposedly decreases the high/mids by 2db which also allows the bass to shine more.
What do you think?
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March 7, 2016, 03:57 PM #103Senior Member
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Re: 452 or 601's
What do you think of this DIY cables? 9AWG from parts express
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March 7, 2016, 04:02 PM #104Audioshark
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Uhmmm - not much. Originally Posted by stanly.joseph
What do you think of this DIY cables? 9AWG from parts express
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March 7, 2016, 04:03 PM #105Audioshark
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Siltech. The silver/gold metallurgy can help to tame them. But that's above your budget. Originally Posted by stanly.joseph
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March 7, 2016, 04:09 PM #106Senior Member
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Re: 452 or 601's
Which siltech cable...Any specific model? Originally Posted by Mike
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March 7, 2016, 04:35 PM #107Senior Member
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Re: 452 or 601's
Yup definitely not siltech. Just a tad above my price range LOL....ill check out Kimber Kable.
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March 7, 2016, 04:41 PM #108Audioshark
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Kimber won't tame that tweeter, but it's a good cable. Originally Posted by stanly.joseph
Check out the Siltech 90L.My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
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March 7, 2016, 06:40 PM #109Senior Member
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452 or 601's
If you want to add some meat on Mid range and tame the tweeter , Look for some used "Purist Audio Design" Cable. Originally Posted by stanly.joseph
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March 7, 2016, 08:46 PM #110Audioshark
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What about MikeCH here on the forum. Avanti cables is his company. Talk to him.
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March 7, 2016, 09:34 PM #111Senior Member
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Mike
In one of Stanley's posts he was talking about two separate pairs and then $200-300. If that is total for both pairs and talking about any sort of distance that becomes extremely limiting. "Warmer" cables I have used in the past were some of the Analysis Plus cables and the lower line WW cables like Luna 7. Farther up both companies lines they move more to the neutral point.Main - JVC QL-Y7/Denon DL-301 Mk II, Gold Note PH-10, Jays CDT3 Mk3 , Auralic Aries G2.2, Holo May KTE, Supratek Cabernet, Kinki Studio EX-B7 monoblocks, Verity Audio Otello, (2) Rythmik F12SE, Audio Envy IC, SC & PC's, Triode Wire Lab PC's, Inakustik USB and I2S, (2) Puritan Audio Labs PSM-156 with Groundmaster City, Timbernation rack
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March 7, 2016, 10:12 PM #112Senior Member
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452 or 601's
Guys
My many apologies. I don't think the problem is with the speaker cables, it's either the Oppo 105D dac or the interconnect XLR cable from the Oppo to the C2500.
I listened to the exact same album ( photo below) stored on the olive 1 streamer, passed onto the C2500 via USB or coax and there's no harshness at all whatsoever even at very high volumes.
But the same album listened via CD mode using the 105D, the harshness is very present.
What do you guys think?
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January 12, 2017, 07:21 PM #114Member
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Re: 452 or 601's
Chuck Hinton told me their amps are underrated by 25% to 33%.. I noticed he had a slight grin on his face when he told me. So enjoy your amps.
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