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July 17, 2020, 12:09 PM #1Audioshark
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MBL 101e Mk2 install today
Out with the old....
In with the new....
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July 17, 2020, 12:14 PM #2Banned
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Beautiful system.
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I think I'm most impressed that your garage is that clean.
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Congrats to the new owner. The system and room great!
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July 17, 2020, 01:41 PM #5Senior Member
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Looks great! I really like the MBL’s in the white and silver color.
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July 17, 2020, 02:19 PM #6Senior Member
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Ditto. I’ve always liked the look (and sound) of MBL.
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July 17, 2020, 02:40 PM #7Senior Member
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One of my top five speakers under $100K. World class sound in every way.
Congrats and enjoy!
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Never saw them in White. Awesome!
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July 17, 2020, 03:27 PM #9Audioshark
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The subs are moved out now. Sounding even better!
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July 17, 2020, 05:09 PM #10Senior Member
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Congrats to the new owner! Very nice-looking set up.
Question: What are the dimensions of the room?
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July 17, 2020, 05:30 PM #11Audioshark
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14 x 19’8” x 10 foot ceilings.
Originally Posted by nicoff
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"We can hear everything we measure, but we can't measure everything we hear. Let your ears be your guide."
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July 17, 2020, 07:02 PM #12Senior Member
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Please forgive my ignorance. Why toe in an omnidirectional speaker? Originally Posted by Mike
The subs are moved out now. Sounding even better!
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July 17, 2020, 07:36 PM #13Audioshark
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Because even an omnidirectional speaker has a center point with a 10ms delay with the rest of the Omni. Originally Posted by tino27
Start at 3:50 of this video. The designer explains it in detail.
HIGH END 2016 - Demonstration of the Radialstrahler System mbl 101 X-treme - YouTube
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July 17, 2020, 10:35 PM #14Senior Member
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Originally Posted by Mike
The subs are moved out now. Sounding even better!
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Great Stuff Mike ......!
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Easily the most beautiful brand of speakers made.
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Which Pass amps are those? Originally Posted by Mike
The subs are moved out now. Sounding even better!
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Do they match well with the mbls or does the owner plan to use mbl amps in future?
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July 18, 2020, 07:40 AM #17Audioshark
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XA160.8’s. They sound wonderful. No plans for a change at this time. Originally Posted by nicoludio
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"We can hear everything we measure, but we can't measure everything we hear. Let your ears be your guide."
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I didn’t have plans to change my amps either, but, once I tried the MBL 9008As at home there was no going back. Originally Posted by Mike
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Mike -
Are the speakers set up on a basically equilateral triangle with the listener?
Are they affected much by how far you pull them away from the walls?
Any special footers like Stillpoints?
Thanks!
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July 19, 2020, 11:05 PM #20Audioshark
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Basically an equilateral triangle, but it’s not a hard and fast rule. You just want to minimize the room as much as possible. The further away you sit, just like with most speakers (except horns or dipoles), the more the room comes into play. Ideally, you want to minimize the room and optimize the seating position. The further away you sit, just like with cones & domes, the more of the room you will hear. Originally Posted by FRO
You want to, ideally, have the speakers 32 inches from the center of the Omni (use the top of the Omni as a guide) to the side or back walls, however, you don’t want the side wall and back wall distance to be identical. Vary it a bit. So, 32 inches from the side wall and 40 inches from the back wall.
I would not suggest Stillpoints (we did try them) on the 101’s, but we have had good luck with the stock spikes, ISOAcoustics GAIA feet, and most definitely, a special platform designed for the MBL’s by Symposium, which is what I use at home. Using the Symposium platform requires the spikes and spike housing ring to be removed so the speaker is sitting flush with the Symposium platform.
But in the case of my customer, the stock spikes on the thick carpet worked wonderfully.
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July 27, 2020, 09:20 PM #21Senior Member
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Originally Posted by Ritmo
I didn’t have plans to change my amps either, but, once I tried the MBL 9008As at home there was no going back.
Hi Ritmo,
What amps did you have before MBL? And how did the sound change when you upgraded your amplifiers?
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July 27, 2020, 09:22 PM #22Senior Member
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Congrats on the sale! And even bigger congrats to the new owner!!!
Did you guys try placement on the long wall vs. the short wall? Doesn't MBL recommend the long wall?
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July 27, 2020, 09:29 PM #23Senior Member
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July 27, 2020, 09:43 PM #24Audioshark
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Thank you! You should hear it! Wow. Originally Posted by Boogieman
MBL definitely doesn’t say that. In fact, I would suggest they say NOT along the long wall.
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July 27, 2020, 11:44 PM #25Senior Member
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No doubt it sounds great! How can MBL not sound great?
No doubt the stage would be larger along his 19 foot wall vs the 14 foot wall. But he may have run into bass issues, for which he has some acoustic treatments. Why wouldn't you recommend the long wall setup? MBL always sets up along the long wall at shows, and I believe their manual has the "formula" for this. If they didn't favor this approach, why write it?
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And it would sound even better if he traded those Pass amps for the MBL amps.
I love Pass on Wilsons, but those Noble amps from the The Absolute Sound cover are incredible and would be a much better option for MBL speakers that need a lot of current.
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I had a D’Agostino Momentum S250. This amp was a very good match for the 101s; however, the MBLs opened up even more with the power reserves of the 9008As. Originally Posted by Boogieman
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Amplification: MBL 6010D, MBL 9008A Monos
Analog: Kuzma R, Kuzma 4Point (11”), MSL Ultra Eminent EX
Phono Pre: Pass XP-27
Digital: Esoteric N01XD Esoteric K05
Speakers: MBL 101E MKII
Subwoofers: REL Carbon Specials
Conditioner: Shunyata Triton 3
Power Cables: Shunyata Sigma 1 & 2, Alpha 2, Delta and Venom
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Nice!!! I bet if you had the D'Agostino monoblocks it would be a closer match, but no doubt your MBL monos would still beat them bad. And, God, if you ever get the 9011s, Wow! (or a couple more of either!!!!) Originally Posted by Ritmo
If you got a thread about your setup, please link it.
Enjoy in great health!
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simply stunning. beautiful system and nice to see someone go for the white color option!
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