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    MBL 101 E MK II install advice

    I will be soon taking ownership of MBL 101 E MK II loudspeakers. They are going into our second floor condo and I'm pretty sure given the size of the crates They will need to be unboxed on the ground level and carried up (actually) 2 flights of stairs. I watched a YouTube video where they used suction cup grippers (which I've previously seen used for carrying plate glass). During the video one of the grippers fell off which was horrifying.

    Any advice on safely carrying the 101s is appreciated. Right now I'm thinking of building a rigid wood "stretcher" and bolting the speakers down to it.


    Any other advice for a new owner is welcome!

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    Re: MBL 101 E MK II install advice

    You can use stair climbing hand trucks to carry heavy stuff up the stairs including speakers. There are many videos on YouTube showcasing different brands and models.
    You would basically take the speaker out of the box, securely strap it to the hand truck (very important), and then take them up the stairs. You might be able to rent the hand truck so check with your local U-Haul store.

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    Re: MBL 101 E MK II install advice

    Won't your dealer be installing them for you or did you purchase used?
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    Mike should be an expert on this.
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    Re: MBL 101 E MK II install advice

    I’m an expert in asking: who’s your dealer on this?


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    Re: MBL 101 E MK II install advice

    Quote Originally Posted by nicoff View Post
    You can use stair climbing hand trucks to carry heavy stuff up the stairs including speakers. There are many videos on YouTube showcasing different brands and models.
    You would basically take the speaker out of the box, securely strap it to the hand truck (very important), and then take them up the stairs. You might be able to rent the hand truck so check with your local U-Haul store.
    I assume you mean strap the subwoofer cabinet?

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    MBL 101 E MK II install advice

    Quote Originally Posted by pdemasco View Post
    I assume you mean strap the subwoofer cabinet?

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    Yes correct. Strap the subwoofer cabinet to the hand truck. The straps need to be tight. To protect the finish of the speaker, you can use a blanket or similar around the subwoofer cabinet.
    This can be done by one person, but for extra safety, you may want to have one person in front and one behind while going up the stairs.
    Some of the better hand trucks come with wheels that automatically prevent it from going backwards an extra safety measure.
    Note: ratchet straps are ideal for this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicoff View Post
    Yes correct. Strap the subwoofer cabinet to the hand truck. The straps need to be tight. To protect the finish of the speaker, you can use a blanket or similar around the subwoofer cabinet.
    This can be done by one person, but for extra safety, you may want to have one person in front and one behind while going up the stairs.
    Some of the better hand trucks come with wheels that automatically prevent it from going backwards an extra safety measure.
    Note: ratchet straps are ideal for this.
    I did the same procedure to get mine up to the 3rd floor room.
    (Also had the help of our elevator).


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    Re: MBL 101 E MK II install advice

    Make sure you don’t tilt the speakers beyond a few degrees. The omni’s could damage. Try to keep the speaker as upright as possible. Be very careful of the midrange and tweeter. No touch.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    I’m an expert in asking: who’s your dealer on this?


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    Re: MBL 101 E MK II install advice

    Quote Originally Posted by MPW View Post
    Won't your dealer be installing them for you or did you purchase used?
    They are dealer demos but the distance precludes them from installing. They have given advice on this but I wanted to get other opinions.

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    Re: MBL 101 E MK II install advice

    You have a very expensive set of speakers. Is there a reason you don't pay extra for travel from the dealer? Something damaged, will pay for the travel expense. This is to say nothing for the proper setup and adjustment.

    Just my suggestion. Good luck.
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    Re: MBL 101 E MK II install advice

    Quote Originally Posted by brad225 View Post
    You have a very expensive set of speakers. Is there a reason you don't pay extra for travel from the dealer? Something damaged, will pay for the travel expense. This is to say nothing for the proper setup and adjustment.

    Just my suggestion. Good luck.
    In normal times I would consider that, but I don't feel comfortable asking anyone to fly at this point. I hope some day to bring the dealer out to fine tune the system. Just not now.

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    Re: MBL 101 E MK II install advice

    The suggestion of having someone professional do this is the best idea. There is way to much (expensive)to go wrong.
    Second why not take the crates up, unpack up there bring the crates back down it would be safer.
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    Re: MBL 101 E MK II install advice

    Quote Originally Posted by Big B View Post
    There is way to much (expensive)to go wrong.
    Second why not take the crates up, unpack up there, (and) bring the crates back down: it would be safer.
    My thoughts exactly.
    If the crates fit up the stairs, that is. Unless the crates can be hauled through a 2nd floor window / balcony, etc?

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    The crates are HUGE and extremely heavy - no way!!!
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    Re: MBL 101 E MK II install advice

    Hire movers for a couple of hours. Do not remove the plastic until brought into your space. For ease of lifting and moving, they can use shoulder straps - https://www.uhaul.com/MovingSupplies...olly/?id=15428 . Good luck!
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    Quote Originally Posted by FRO View Post
    The crates are HUGE and extremely heavy - no way!!!
    Totally agree. No way!!

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