Whispers of a Magico M9 Coming Soon?

**Calvin** · April 17, 2020, 12:55 PM

Magico M9 - from what I read elsewhere, almost 9 feet tall and app 1000 lbs. per speaker. Each speaker is divided into two sections, split in two sections for shipping.

Teaser photo. Any guesses on it's configuration?

**Mike** · April 17, 2020, 12:57 PM

Interesting. Where did you read this?

That looks like an M6 to me in the camera. No?

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**Calvin** · April 17, 2020, 01:00 PM

Mike, I'll message you.

**Dizzie** · April 17, 2020, 01:33 PM

My guess is it is an M3 stacked on top of an M6.

**steve59** · April 18, 2020, 10:00 AM

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**Bart001** · April 18, 2020, 11:40 AM

This same photo was posted on another forum back in Dec 2019, with various speculation. Including Peter M. reportedly having said to someone it's an M9. Who knows about "rumors" that anyone can post.

If you just Google image search that image, you can find that forum post. I will not link it here.

**pdub** · April 18, 2020, 01:53 PM

Is Magico allowed to come out with an M9 before BMW?

**Ritmo** · April 18, 2020, 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by pdub

Is Magico allowed to come out with an M9 before BMW?

**brodricj** · April 25, 2020, 08:08 PM

A 1000 lb speaker is hard to believe with the recent direction the cabinet technology seems to be taking with M2/M6. That would make it heavier than Q7Mk2. Just not practical or sensible to my mind.

**u-sound** · April 25, 2020, 08:32 PM

still looking small comared to theyr horn speakers

**Calvin** · April 30, 2020, 08:49 AM

Originally Posted by brodricj

A 1000 lb speaker is hard to believe with the recent direction the cabinet technology seems to be taking with M2/M6. That would make it heavier than Q7Mk2. Just not practical or sensible to my mind.

I agree, doesn't make sense. With the M2 at 165 lbs, Magico seemed to be going lighter.

Guess we will see in 2021 when this speaker - the M9 - will allegedly be released.

**Alpinist** · April 30, 2020, 11:57 PM

Originally Posted by Calvin

I agree, doesn't make sense. With the M2 at 165 lbs, Magico seemed to be going lighter.

Guess we will see in 2021 when this speaker - the M9 - will allegedly be released.

I think one of the reasons the Magico M9’s will be so big and heavy is because you will not need to purchase QSubs for them. Think Von Schweikert Ultra 11’s for example. Built in 15 inch powered subwoofers.

Ken

**brodricj** · May 1, 2020, 08:41 PM

Magico doing a speaker with built-in subwoofer? I find that difficult to believe. But it would explain the weight.

**kzhtoo** · May 1, 2020, 09:18 PM

I might be wrong, but I don’t think M9 is happening.

**Calvin** · June 12, 2020, 10:08 AM

According to FaceBook Magico Speakers page this is the M9. I'm not sure where the poster received it.

Magico.jpg

**kzhtoo** · June 12, 2020, 11:41 AM

Magico itself just posted it. Seems official now.

**Mike** · June 12, 2020, 11:44 AM

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**Mike** · June 12, 2020, 11:45 AM

The M6 looks so cute next to the M9. Ha!

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**Calvin** · June 12, 2020, 11:54 AM

Amazing specs. Wonder what it will sound like.

**Dizzie** · June 12, 2020, 11:57 AM

Is that the only Magico (except for maybe the largest one) with an external XO and power supply?

**Mike** · June 12, 2020, 12:07 PM

Honeycomb core drivers.

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**Calvin** · June 12, 2020, 12:20 PM

Can't wait until the trickle down of the advances in the M9 are seen in some new Magicos that cost a wee-bit less than $750,000

**puroagave** · June 12, 2020, 12:23 PM

At $750k, they're after a piece of the WAMM Master Chronosonic pie.

**BlueFox** · June 12, 2020, 12:53 PM

It is huge. Might fit in an arena sized room.

**kzhtoo** · June 12, 2020, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by puroagave

At $750k, they're after a piece of the WAMM Master Chronosonic pie.

I wonder if we ever see a side by side pic.

**mdp632** · June 12, 2020, 01:06 PM

A few things.

1.) I assume this is the Q7 replacement as the new flagship? So, only Q series left is the Q sub and Q1?

2.) Is this a 4 tower speaker? With separate bass towers?

3.) Are the bass drivers powered or passive?

Certainly a WAMM or XVX Competitor but, with a hell of a lot more advanced technology. Carbon fiber, pistonic drivers (not paper)

Makes the YG Sonja XV look like quite a bargain at 265K ish ? a pair compared to the Magico and Wilson flagships.

**Alpinist** · June 12, 2020, 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by mdp632

A few things.

1.) I assume this is the Q7 replacement as the new flagship? So, only Q series left is the Q sub and Q1?

Yes. New flagship.

2.) Is this a 4 tower speaker? With separate bass towers?

Two towers.

3.) Are the bass drivers powered or passive?

The bottom 2 speakers are 15” powered subwoofers fully adjustable via DSP.

Certainly a WAMM or XVX Competitor but, with a hell of a lot more advanced technology. Carbon fiber, pistonic drivers (not paper)

Makes the YG Sonja XV look like quite a bargain at 265K ish ? a pair compared to the Magico and Wilson flagships.

See above,
Ken

**Alpinist** · June 12, 2020, 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by Calvin

Can't wait until the trickle down of the advances in the M9 are seen in some new Magicos that cost a wee-bit less than $750,000

Me too, Calvin. If you look closely at the new design features of the the M9’s, you can see the future of the Magico line for the next couple years, as the new developments trickle down. Gone is the the traditional Rohacell foam, used as the core for the Carbon/Graphene sandwich, replaced with much stiffer aluminum honeycomb core to achieve more pistonic movement. Powered subwoofers that are fully tunable via DSP, which enable the speakers’ bass to be easily tuned to the room dimensions, and to achieve a 94 dB sensitivity, which reduces minimum power requirements and opens up the possibility of many more amplifiers.

Ken

**imprezap2** · June 12, 2020, 03:53 PM

I am a Magico fan, but $750K for a speaker is getting a bit over the top in my opinion, don't want to think what it will cost in Europe.

**Mike Lavigne** · June 12, 2020, 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by Alpinist

Me too, Calvin. If you look closely at the new design features of the the M9’s, you can see the future of the Magico line for the next couple years, as the new developments trickle down. Gone is the the traditional Rohacell foam, used as the core for the Carbon/Graphene sandwich, replaced with much stiffer aluminum honeycomb core to achieve more pistonic movement. Powered subwoofers that are fully tunable via DSP, which enable the speakers’ bass to be easily tuned to the room dimensions, and to achieve a 94 dB sensitivity, which reduces minimum power requirements and opens up the possibility of many more amplifiers.
Ken

sounds like it's approaching the technology of my 8 year old twin tower Evolution Acoustics MM7's.

80 inches tall (82" + 84" tall), -2- 15" powered tune-able subs (-4- 15" powered tune-able subs), 1000 pounds (1500 pounds), easy to drive, amp friendly 94db, 4 ohm (97db, 7 ohm).

i think the Magico is sexier to look at by far than the Evolution's. but when the lights are dim.......

**Mike** · June 12, 2020, 05:01 PM

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**Alpinist** · June 12, 2020, 05:30 PM

The M9’s are a work of art visually and employ state-of-the-art engineering in their design. Highly impressive in my opinion.

Ken

**Alpinist** · June 12, 2020, 05:56 PM

Originally Posted by Mike Lavigne

sounds like it's approaching the technology of my 8 year old twin tower Evolution Acoustics MM7's.

80 inches tall (82" + 84" tall), -2- 15" powered tune-able subs (-4- 15" powered tune-able subs), 1000 pounds (1500 pounds), easy to drive, amp friendly 94db, 4 ohm (97db, 7 ohm).

i think the Magico is sexier to look at by far than the Evolution's. but when the lights are dim.......

Hi Mike,

The MM7’s are tremendous loudspeakers but I have to give the engineering edge to the M9’s with its carbon nanotube graphene sandwich cones with aluminum honeycomb core and half inch thick carbon fiber monocoque cabinet modeled after the fuselage of a F-35 fighter jet. A stunning engineering achievement in every way. I rapped on the side of the M6’s and it was like hitting a solid piece of polished granite.

Best,
Ken

**mep** · June 12, 2020, 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by Mike Lavigne

sounds like it's approaching the technology of my 8 year old twin tower Evolution Acoustics MM7's.

80 inches tall (82" + 84" tall), -2- 15" powered tune-able subs (-4- 15" powered tune-able subs), 1000 pounds (1500 pounds), easy to drive, amp friendly 94db, 4 ohm (97db, 7 ohm).

i think the Magico is sexier to look at by far than the Evolution's. but when the lights are dim.......

Seriously?

**Mike** · June 12, 2020, 06:06 PM

The M9’s appear to be state of the art in so many respects. Thankfully we don’t measure the performance of speakers by their height.

Carbon graphene cones with honeycomb aluminum core or a carbon fiber monocoque cabinet.

Can’t wait to see the external crossover and external PSU for the crossover in person. A picture of it is below.

The software for the M9’s bass drivers is all new and an advance on the Q-Sub software.

I’ve also attached a picture of the M9 from the side.

**Mike** · June 12, 2020, 06:13 PM

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**Alpinist** · June 12, 2020, 06:24 PM

I didn’t realize they had moved to a carbon fiber aluminum honeycomb core sandwich on the cabinet too. A departure from the M6’s design. Alon leaves no stone unturned.

Ken

**brodricj** · June 12, 2020, 06:28 PM

I can't see them selling too many pairs of these into their best market, Hong Kong. It's just too big for the apartments even uber-rich guys live in.

**Calvin** · June 12, 2020, 06:47 PM

Originally Posted by brodricj

I can't see them selling too many pairs of these into their best market, Hong Kong. It's just too big for the apartments even uber-rich guys live in.

But the trickle down will be tremendous on new forthcoming Magico models at a fraction of the price - which will still be expensive, but not as expensive.

**mdp632** · June 12, 2020, 06:55 PM

Magico "Halo" Speaker. Similar to that supercar from your car manufacture of choice. And priced like one:-)

Clearly a cost no object speaker to showcase what Magico is capable of.

Many comparisons will be made to the WAMM. Given the price. But, is the M9 a limited speaker, like the WAMM?

Additionally, of course one needs about 100k worth of amplification to drive these speaker.

The WAMM brought us the Relentless amp from Dan D' to pair with the WAMM MC.

Wonder if there is a Soulution Series 9 waiting in the wings to pair with the M9.

**Mike Lavigne** · June 12, 2020, 07:23 PM

Originally Posted by mep

Seriously?

absolutely.

the MM7's have exactly twice the driver surface of the M9, and i prefer the ceramic matrix drivers to any metal cone drivers i've yet heard. so far not a fan of metal speaker cabinets either.

the M9 is a tour de force work of art, and it's build quality is breathtaking. as a 'pretty thing' is out-classes the Evolution by leagues. but at $750k to the MM7's $200k you are paying dearly for....exactly....what? nothing that i can see that makes sense.

but performance, who knows? right now i would choose my MM7's. if i ever get the chance to hear M9's then we will see.

i will 100% agree that the hifi world is a better place when companies like Magico make products like the M9 and i celebrate them wholeheartedly.

**u-sound** · June 12, 2020, 07:26 PM

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my dealer with the chronosonic xvx and the rentelss......the midrange richness!! it sounds better than real! honestly.
i wonder how anything can even sound better...and i dont doubt the m9 do.
that said, wow, i would like to be rich

**NorthStar** · June 12, 2020, 07:31 PM

Do they come with speaker wires?

**Mike** · June 12, 2020, 07:38 PM

Originally Posted by NorthStar

Do they come with speaker wires?

Bob, if you buy a pair, I’ll supply the wires.

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**brodricj** · June 12, 2020, 08:02 PM

Imagine the logistical effort to demo M9 at a show. Imagine the effort to convince a dealer to buy a demo pair. Imagine the effort to convince somebody to buy in the absence of demo options. The cross-over box does look very Esoteric-like, or SVS 4000 series subwoofer-like.

**Mike Lavigne** · June 12, 2020, 08:02 PM

Originally Posted by Alpinist

Hi Mike,

The MM7’s are tremendous loudspeakers but I have to give the engineering edge to the M9’s with its carbon nanotube graphene sandwich cones with aluminum honeycomb core and half inch thick carbon fiber monocoque cabinet modeled after the fuselage of a F-35 fighter jet. A stunning engineering achievement in every way. I rapped on the side of the M6’s and it was like hitting a solid piece of polished granite.

Best,
Ken

agree and no dispute, on an engineering level no way that the 2000 layers of baltic birch on the MM7 cabinet is as technically sophisticated as the M9's. but other Magico cabinets in the past have also displayed lots of techie highlights, yet did not get the performance lift from those attributes to please a significant segment of listeners.

i've liked but not loved most Magico's i've heard. but i've not heard a Magico in a truly mature system so i cannot say i've heard them at their best.

the M9 might be the perfect speaker.

**SCAudiophile** · June 12, 2020, 08:46 PM

Originally Posted by Mike Lavigne

agree and no dispute, on an engineering level no way that the 2000 layers of baltic birch on the MM7 cabinet is as technically sophisticated as the M9's. but other Magico cabinets in the past have also displayed lots of techie highlights, yet did not get the performance lift from those attributes to please a significant segment of listeners.

i've liked but not loved most Magico's i've heard. but i've not heard a Magico in a truly mature system so i cannot say i've heard them at their best.

the M9 might be the perfect speaker.

Great post Mike! New Tech/New "snazzy" Materials is NO guarantee of a superior speaker or most anything else in audio.
There are so many other factors in play...

**Calvin** · June 12, 2020, 08:49 PM

Here is the M9 write up - the same thing Mike has above but in one complete form

The M9 - A Revelatory New Flagship Loudspeaker — Magico Loudspeakers

**BlueFox** · June 12, 2020, 09:39 PM

Hopefully, there will be trickledown technology in a few years when I am ready to upgrade.

**NorthStar** · June 12, 2020, 09:55 PM

Originally Posted by Mike

Bob, if you buy a pair, I’ll supply the wires.

Mike, thank you. It'll be my pleasure to test drive them and tell like it is. Fasten your seatbelts.

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