Thread: The Ultimate MAGICO Experience for Audioshark Members - Saturday August 27, 2016

Originally Posted by Mike

I wonder if they got the MPOD's?

Also - is that a CH preamp or DAC?

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Hi Mike, my Dealer said he didn't order the MPods and arms with this order.

The CH model is the C1 DAC/Streamer. Btw, I confirmed in this setup the Digibit Aria Piccolo + external psu is feeding the CH C1 > Dart .

Originally Posted by Rhapsody

It actually is a game changer, in my estimation. Vitus SM102's or SM011's. I never really felt that Magicos "had soul" prior to hearing the M3's, I feel the M3's "have soul".....meaning full bodied, transparent BUT with weight, great midbass, natural, captivating, musically involving, an easy emotional connection to the music. I never felt that the previous Magicos had all of these attributes and the M3's do. Again, this is just what I hear and feel, ymmv of course.

Just curious if that includes the S5 Mk2's which you're also very familiar with? My curiosity was piqued as the S5 Mk2 of course uses the same midrange drivers as the M3.

Cheers,

Hi Mike, I would agree if I had just heard them at the Magico facility, but if you heard them at my place I think that you would have a different and expanded impression.

Originally Posted by Melbguy1

Just curious if that includes the S5 Mk2's which you're also very familiar with? My curiosity was piqued as the S5 Mk2 of course uses the same midrange drivers as the M3.

Cheers,

(Not insinuating that this is the way it is for anyone else, these are my experiences, go and listen for yourself and give your impressions AFTER listening)

Hi, Yes this includes the S5II and again, only from what I am experiencing. BTW, I love the S5II and could live with it for the rest of my days, BUT due to the fact that the M3 is the FIRST Magico speaker to ever use the EXACT same nanographene material in BOTH the midrange AND the bass drivers there is something going on in the mid-bass with the M3 that I have never heard from a Magico speaker before, including the S5II, S1II and the S7.

These three speakers are great speakers and I do not feel that they have any area that I would want improvement on when listening to them....they make music and draw me into the music, BUT when the M3's are turned on, I just love them and I think because it is due to A)Cabinet, B)Matching of the midrange/bass driver, C)latest version tweeter, even though the same as Q7II is a little newer and has Alon's latest know how incorporated into the design and finally the latest Xover built especially for the M3.

All of the latest Magicos have "upped the game", but again for me the M3 is the "game changer"....just my two cents.

btw, what sucks for me is after hearing two each Q15 subs with the M3's and experienced what they did to the soundstaging, midrange and even the "high end" of the spectrum, not even taking the jaw dropping bass into account, I had to order them. I was not planning on ordering a pair, but once I experienced it there was no going back.

Thanks for your insight. The S5 Mk2 uses substantial size Nanographene dust caps, though yes that's not quite the same as constructing the whole driver cone from Nanographene which would aid speed and coherency. The M3 is a tour de force for sure, bringing together optimized 2nd generation M Project technology into a smaller form factor.

As you said, the S5 Mk2 is a very complete speaker one could live with for life, or a good part of it anyway. My plans are to build around my current speakers over time. Next year I plan to upgrade the factory spikes to MPods (hopefully by then optimized for the S5 Mk2), plus some other changes . I suspect the MPods would lift those speakers up another level again.

As for the M3's, i'll reserve my impressions until after my audition this weekend! My reference point in the S series will be the S7's which I heard recently, since my S5 Mk2's are out of action for a few weeks due to home reno's and a short break in between.

Originally Posted by Melbguy1

Thanks for your insight. Of course the S5 Mk2 uses a substantial size Nanographene dust cap, but yes that's not the same as the whole driver cone which would aid the seamless sound. The M3 is a tour de force for sure, bringing together optimized 2nd generation M Project technology into a smaller form factor. With that said, it's way too rich for my wallet. My plans are to build around my current speakers over time. I plan to upgrade the factory spikes next year to MPods (hopefully by then optimized for the S5 Mk2) and some other changes. As you said, the S5 Mk2 is a very complete speaker one could live with for life, or a good part of it anyway. I suspect the MPods would take them up another notch again.

As for my impressions of the M3's, i'll reserve that for my audition this weekend! My reference point in the S series will be the S7's which I heard recently since my S5 Mk2's are out of action for a few weeks due to home reno's and a short break in between.

Btw, when i one day build a new home I plan to build a dedicated listening room with a JVC projector & retractable screen, and add a pair of S or Q series subs to the mix, and a vinyl rig. Whilst I agree the speakers are the most important component, the overall system (incl: front end) significantly contributes to the sound. I'd rather strive to extract the maximum potential from my loudspeakers, rather than 60-70% from a pair of super speakers due to budget constraints.

Best of luck with all of it and I said I could EASILY live with the S5II's forever. Actually I could live with the S1II's forever as my only speaker, I think they are that good. If you factor the $$$ variable into the equation I think the S1II is the overall winner in the Magico line, or maybe the S3II (coming) or maybe the S5II.....all very good choices

Originally Posted by Melbguy1

Thanks for your insight. The S5 Mk2 uses substantial size Nanographene dust caps, though yes that's not quite the same as constructing the whole driver cone from Nanographene which would aid speed and coherency. The M3 is a tour de force for sure, bringing together optimized 2nd generation M Project technology into a smaller form factor.

As you said, the S5 Mk2 is a very complete speaker one could live with for life, or a good part of it anyway. My plans are to build around my current speakers over time. Next year I plan to upgrade the factory spikes to MPods (hopefully by then optimized for the S5 Mk2), plus some other changes . I suspect the MPods would lift those speakers up another level again.

As for the M3's, i'll reserve my impressions until after my audition this weekend! My reference point in the S series will be the S7's which I heard recently, since my S5 Mk2's are out of action for a few weeks due to home reno's and a short break in between.

I am eagerly awaiting to hear your listening impressions


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Hi Rhapsody,

You commented that the M3 create a 22" soundstage on your 17" side wall. Could you comment the difference for the S1 Mk2?

Originally Posted by hieukm

Hi Rhapsody,

You commented that the M3 create a 22" soundstage on your 17" side wall. Could you comment the difference for the S1 Mk2?

Great question - I get the same size soundstage with the S1II, the S5II and the S7, with the exact same electronic set up, in my room. Understanding that you must be playing a recording that has instruments way left or right on the soundstage. The size of the soundstage is always dependent on specific recordings of course.

With the M3 because of the deeper extension provided by the M3s the images on the soundstage have more weight, density and solidity than on the S1II, but the overall size of the soundstage is very similar. Actually a similar effect if you compare the M3's vs. the M3's with Q15" subs.