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    Re: MAGICO M9’s

    mr. wolf could offer a pair to the most sucsessful magico dealer of 2020
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    Re: MAGICO M9’s

    Quote Originally Posted by u-sound View Post
    mr. wolf could offer a pair to the most sucsessful magico dealer of 2020
    Ha! I’m game.


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    Re: MAGICO M9’s

    Quote Originally Posted by u-sound View Post
    mr. wolf could offer a pair to the most sucsessful magico dealer of 2020
    That is quite a bodacious bonus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
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    Adding an additional valid product in this range adds to the credibility of those already there. Best of success Mike. We all win with this introduction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by metaphacts View Post
    Adding an additional valid product in this range adds to the credibility of those already there. Best of success Mike. We all win with this introduction.
    Thanks Bill. It’s certainly rarified air at this level, but since selling an entire MBL XTreme Reference system in December, I know it’s possible. I believe one U.S. dealer has already sold a pair of M9’s and full kudos to him. That’s awesome. I’ve also seen a lot of WAMM installs (Andrew’s setup looks great. I love how his room treatments are all hidden) so there’s definitely opportunities out there at that level.
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    Crazy to think some people can afford these. I paid just slightly more for my house.


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    Re: MAGICO M9’s

    Quote Originally Posted by Phishphan View Post
    Crazy to think some people can afford these. I paid just slightly more for my house.


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    I am just trying to figure out how much cash I would need to have to prioritize the purchase of an M9 over the very long list of things I would rather do with this amount (starting with buying a very very nice sail boat).

    But great for those who have reached that level of wealth and are comfortable enough with it to display it through the ownership of such speakers.

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    Re: MAGICO M9’s

    Quote Originally Posted by mep View Post
    Since you just stated you don't know squat about Magico or their design goals, why would you state that the M9 doesn't look like an evolution of previous products?
    Cause this product doesn't really have the same shape as the rest of the products I've seen?
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    Cause this product doesn't really have the same shape as the rest of the products I've seen?
    What does shape have to do with the evolution of a product line?
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    Does this product offer trickle down tech? Is it a statement of current tech? Either way it takes balls to step into the heavyweight ring and put it all out there.
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    Re: MAGICO M9’s

    the other question is what is the m9 about. is it only more and better (probably words nr1) bass?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bernardl View Post
    I am just trying to figure out how much cash I would need to have to prioritize the purchase of an M9 over the very long list of things I would rather do with this amount (starting with buying a very very nice sail boat).

    But great for those who have reached that level of wealth and are comfortable enough with it to display it through the ownership of such speakers.

    Cheers,
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    I like the way you think.

    I can not afford a speaker like the Magico M9, though I would love to own the M3. In Tokyo perhaps even the M2. I do have the Q3s and think they are wonderful speakers. I also have a very nice sailboat, though it would be a different story in Tokyo where I lived in 1990. I can tell you that the real cost of a nice sailboat is not in the initial purchase price, but rather in the ownership costs including maintenance, new sails, and storage during the off season. It also goes way up if you want to race. It is a continuous expense ending only when the boat is sold. Audio, for the most part is not about ongoing costs, unless one is talking about expensive cartridges, but about the initial purchase price and then the depreciation. IMO, these are very different ways to spend money. I know many people with nice systems and it is not about displaying a level of wealth to others. Their systems are mostly for their own enjoyment in dedicated listening rooms with few visitors, though there are surely exceptions. I suspect the mighty M9 will make a lasting impression on all who are lucky enough to see and hear the speaker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by u-sound View Post
    the other question is what is the m9 about. is it only more and better (probably words nr1) bass?
    To start with, improved speaker cones, crossovers and cabinet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpinist View Post
    To start with, improved speaker cones, crossovers and cabinet.

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    you are right. i am just surprised we dont see a big array of multiple mid drivers.
    as for the cabinet, i would love to see the internal structure. the change to aluminium honeycombs alone isnt doing much. so it would be interesting where they placed the formers etc and the structural concept as a whole.
    dont get me wrong, i am not questining the m9.....would love to put a pair in my garden
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    Quote Originally Posted by u-sound View Post
    you are right. i am just surprised we dont see a big array of multiple mid drivers.
    as for the cabinet, i would love to see the internal structure. the change to aluminium honeycombs alone isnt doing much. so it would be interesting where they placed the formers etc and the structural concept as a whole.
    dont get me wrong, i am not questining the m9.....would love to put a pair in my garden
    These are fair points. In high powered big scaling speakers, two midrange drivers would be appropriate. The aluminum honeycomb cabinet sidewalls give equal strength with less weight and cost then solid carbon fiber sidewalls, but that would not necessarily sound better.

    The biggest improvement in these loudspeakers is moving from rohacell to a much stiffer aluminum honeycomb in the speaker cone core and the development of a more advanced active crossover. There are other improvements such as in the voice coils and in the internal cabinet design to reduce diffraction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterA View Post
    I like the way you think.

    I can not afford a speaker like the Magico M9, though I would love to own the M3. In Tokyo perhaps even the M2. I do have the Q3s and think they are wonderful speakers. I also have a very nice sailboat, though it would be a different story in Tokyo where I lived in 1990. I can tell you that the real cost of a nice sailboat is not in the initial purchase price, but rather in the ownership costs including maintenance, new sails, and storage during the off season. It also goes way up if you want to race. It is a continuous expense ending only when the boat is sold. Audio, for the most part is not about ongoing costs, unless one is talking about expensive cartridges, but about the initial purchase price and then the depreciation. IMO, these are very different ways to spend money. I know many people with nice systems and it is not about displaying a level of wealth to others. Their systems are mostly for their own enjoyment in dedicated listening rooms with few visitors, though there are surely exceptions. I suspect the mighty M9 will make a lasting impression on all who are lucky enough to see and hear the speaker.
    Hi Peter,

    Thanks.

    Fully agree. I do a tiny bit of sailing myself and have so far resisted the urge of buying a boat out of the concern that I may serve it more than it serves me (including running costs). Day or week rental has so far proven to be a decent solution. But there is nonethless a list of vessels I would love to be able to really get to know well some day through extended usage that can only come from ownership. We will see.

    My comment about displaying wealth wasn’t about the intent of the owner. I am aware that being able to afford such speakers comes with a financial maturity that typically comes with a level of personnel development that results in money being looked at differently. But, and that’s the connection with these speakers, they do the talking for you and that can only not be troublesome in some very privileged spheres where the visitors won’t mind.

    To me there is a clear line btwn a 50,000-100,000 US$ system that, albeit expensive, is a matter of priorities for many people (vs buying a more or less expensive car for example) fortunate enough to live in developped countries, and multi million US$ systems such as those including M9s.

    Not sure if I am managing to make myself understood.

    Btw, our path may have crossed since I have been in Tokyo since 1997.

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    When I win the lottery, I'll put it on my list of things to buy. Short of that, I'll never be wealthy enough to afford them.


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    I hope to be able to hear them one day. The design and specs look impressive. Unfortunately another speaker that I would never be comfortable writing a check for. I am glad there are those capable of making that kind of purchase without trepidation.
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    I think the tax on those is probably around my spending limit for speakers.
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    My living room floor is wood on concrete, and the house sits on the ground (no basement). At 1000 pounds per speaker I would be scared to have them in the house, no matter how they sound.
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    Hey, did you all see this:

    A Long Time Coming: A Sneak Preview of Magico’s Magnificent M9 - The Absolute Sound

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    What can you tell from youtube videos... not much IMHO. That doesn’t mean they can’t be fun!



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    Re: MAGICO M9’s

    Quote Originally Posted by steve59 View Post
    Does this product offer trickle down tech? Is it a statement of current tech? Either way it takes balls to step into the heavyweight ring and put it all out there.
    R.e. trickle down tech, the answer is 'yes' - the Magico A5's mid-range and bass drivers have the aluminum honeycomb cores originally designed for the M9s.

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    Maybe a little more choice and a bit better music for a proper impression (more than an hour altogether).

    MAGICO M9 SPEAKERS FIRST REAL WORLD - YouTube


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    MAGICO M9’s

    Quote Originally Posted by Kuoppis View Post
    Maybe a little more choice and a bit better music for a proper impression (more than an hour altogether).

    MAGICO M9 SPEAKERS FIRST REAL WORLD - YouTube


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    Apparently the CH video floating around is a fake video!!

    Can’t wait to hear these in person. The specs, the design is just mind blowing and total state of the art. 1000 pounds of sheer amazement!


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    If only it were easy to listen to both brands of electronics side by side. I have not heard CH Precision, nor Pilium at this point, but I expect there is something Alon is hearing that he has chosen to have the first industry write-ups and auditions using the Pilium gear.

    I am thrilled that I’ll have the opportunity to listen in just a few days. My last real listen with Magico speakers were S5 mkII, if my memory serves me correctly. And my last hearing of anything in this category was Wilson WAMM with Dagostino.

    The key, for me, is will I be drawn into the music, or will it simply sound amazing without an emotional connection? I hope the for the latter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobvin View Post
    If only it were easy to listen to both brands of electronics side by side. I have not heard CH Precision, nor Pilium at this point, but I expect there is something Alon is hearing that he has chosen to have the first industry write-ups and auditions using the Pilium gear.

    I am thrilled that I’ll have the opportunity to listen in just a few days. My last real listen with Magico speakers were S5 mkII, if my memory serves me correctly. And my last hearing of anything in this category was Wilson WAMM with Dagostino.

    The key, for me, is will I be drawn into the music, or will it simply sound amazing without an emotional connection? I hope the for the latter.
    Please share your impressions Bob, and report back on the amps. They were new to me, I think the company was only set up in 2012 AFAIK.

    Video would be good .


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    Thinking of the WAR song "Me & Baby Brother"

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  33. #83

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    Thought I had posted something, I guess I forgot to hit the button... headed to Magico today to visit Alon and hear the M9s with Taiko Extreme server, MSB Select II, Pilium Alexander pre-amp, and two pair Pilium Hercules monos.

    Report forthcoming.
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    Ask him "what's next?"
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  35. #85

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    Holy Shit! More details to follow I am just at the airport but let me tell you that was f’n AMAZING!
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    Re: MAGICO M9’s

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    Alright, I'm not trying to be a tease, just have a crazy day today. I will, however, say the M9s driven by the Pilium electronics ought to be considered a redefinition of what is possible in reproducing recorded music. From the first few notes it was apparent this was an exceptionally special system. Compared to what I heard of the WAMMs it was much more musical.


    I will say, however, the room I heard the WAMMs in was nothing like hearing Alon's listening room. And the WAMM were powered by Dagostino which I've heard many, many times. The Dag gear and I have never really "got" each other. Like dating that hot chick where you really wanted it to click, but you just never quite had good energy together. That is NOT going to be a problem with the Pilium gear. We get each other just fine. I am very, very, very excited and looking forward to turning people on to the Pilium electronics. I am confident once people hear it they will agree—there is something special going on for SS electronics, there is some sense of liquidity and flow that gets you closer to the music, immediately.


    Did I mention the M9s are simply F'n AMAZING. Oh what a joy it would be to be able to afford such a speaker. Everything changes after hearing those.


    Both my travelling buddy and I noticed, upon entering Alon's room, there was a real similar feel to my own room. Alon's room probably a bit more lively than my own, it is also quite a bit larger, but feel of the room very similar. Bonnie Schnitta, of SoundSense who designed my room puts a premium on not only great sound but wants to create a room that "feels" good. It was a nice bit of confirmation picking up the same gestalt in Alon's space.


    More to come...
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    very cool bob, that sound thrilling! keep enjoying it.
    quiet an impressive point to join the business
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    Awesome Bob. The design and technology in the M9 is just out of this world. Thanks for sharing your impressions! I can’t wait to hear them myself.


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    Mike, you are going to be blown away!

    As good as the M9s are, it was a real pleasure meeting Alon and getting some insight into his design philosophy, why he does some things he does, and seeing the manufacturing facilities. To say Alon is a fanatic for getting things right, for measuring, listening, measuring and continuously pushing the state of the art would be understatement. He is clearly driven to build what he considers the very finest product that he can. As a businessman I really understand and respect all that is involved.

    And for anyone who poo-poohs the Magico brand... go visit the facilities and you will have a new appreciation. It is not uncommon to hear someone complain that a speaker costs way too much, because the parts cost is only "X", there's no way that speaker is worth "Y". First, that person has zero understanding of running a business. More importantly after visiting they would see that their understanding of what goes into a Magico speaker has probably not been accurate.

    I say Bravo! to Alon. Keep pushing the boundaries of what is possible. Good on you!
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    Bob - Thanks for sharing the story of your visit. The M9s look impressive. Hope they are demoed in one of the big shows next year.
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    Sounds like a great trip.
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    But be careful

    Last time I was there I ended up spending way too much money in the year or two afterwards with things I heard there.

    LOL
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  44. #94

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ritmo View Post
    Bob - Thanks for sharing the story of your visit. The M9s look impressive. Hope they are demoed in one of the big shows next year.
    Well, there are always the Magico facilities in Hayward. Out of respect for Mike and competing interests I will just say there will be a couple other locations M9s can be heard.

    Also, lets not forget... Suncoast appears to be thriving, perhaps Mike will take the plunge and have some M9s in his store! You would probably find him there 24/7, red-eyed from all night listening sessions.
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    I'm still not convinced if the M9 begets the eye-candy beauty of M2/3, it's sort of the ugly duckling of the siblings. I'm just not warming to "the look" as I do with M2/3. But not having seen it in the flesh is hard to come to an informed opinion on that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobvin View Post
    Also, lets not forget... Suncoast appears to be thriving, perhaps Mike will take the plunge and have some M9s in his store! You would probably find him there 24/7, red-eyed from all night listening sessions.
    Excellent! Mike can take up residence in the store with his M9's, and I'll take up residence at Mike's place in his absence. There is enough Esoteric stuff at his place to keep me happy! But before closing the deal on the new living arrangements, can Mike get the D1X in the house?
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    Quote Originally Posted by brodricj View Post
    I'm still not convinced if the M9 begets the eye-candy beauty of M2/3, it's sort of the ugly duckling of the siblings. I'm just not warming to "the look" as I do with M2/3. But not having seen it in the flesh is hard to come to an informed opinion on that.
    M9s are BIG. And in black are quite imposing. I’ll post a picture later of me standing next to one. I’m 6’2”, 205#. The M9 is taller than I am, and 1000lbs. I’m not sure anyone is buying them for the looks, though some will love the look, I’m a bit ambivalent. You buy M9s when you have the $$ and love the sound. There might be an instance or two where somebody buys them for bragging rights or to show off to their wealthy friends, but I’d say its all about the sound, which is SPECTACULAR!
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    I was in California and out of respect for Alon and all his crew, the "mask of fear" "face diaper" had to be worn. (I've had my first dose of Moderna, waiting for the second.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobvin View Post
    I was in California and out of respect for Alon and all his crew, the "mask of fear" "face diaper" had to be worn. (I've had my first dose of Moderna, waiting for the second.)

    Bob, you do look tiny .


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobvin View Post
    M9s are BIG. And in black are quite imposing. I’ll post a picture later of me standing next to one. I’m 6’2”, 205#. The M9 is taller than I am, and 1000lbs. I’m not sure anyone is buying them for the looks, though some will love the look, I’m a bit ambivalent. You buy M9s when you have the $$ and love the sound. There might be an instance or two where somebody buys them for bragging rights or to show off to their wealthy friends, but I’d say its all about the sound, which is SPECTACULAR!
    To me the M9’s look a bit like a slightly flat-footed design accident, an acquired taste to say the least. Maybe somewhat of an Estelon type, yet without similar gracefulness. And unfortunately not much left of the elegance of their smaller M series brethren. This is one of the few designs where you can actually argue, whether they look better or worse than the Ultimate IIIs. On that level, I think the Ultimates are even more extravagant .

    But to be honest, they’re a tour de force. Their sheer size, the truck wheel size woofers, 1000 lbs weight and so on are just impressive. I think that’s what people would buy them for.

    And it’s unnecessary to lament how they would look in anyone’s living room, because they won’t. And for a dedicated listening space of crazy people they’re pretty much ok.


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