Magico M7 announced?

**bthomas9** · May 4, 2017, 06:21 AM

https://youtu.be/CWe7HUfsr3o

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**Mike** · May 4, 2017, 07:04 AM

M Pro 2? M Pro Mini?

**bthomas9** · May 4, 2017, 07:33 AM

Sold...or as the saying goes, "Shut up and take my money

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**XV-1** · May 4, 2017, 07:34 AM

S3 or S5 mkIII ?

**Mike** · May 4, 2017, 07:59 AM

Originally Posted by bthomas9

Sold...or as the saying goes, "Shut up and take my money

!"

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Limited edition ?

**Elberoth** · May 4, 2017, 09:16 AM

**nicoludio** · May 4, 2017, 10:02 AM

Floorstander - M Six

**bthomas9** · May 4, 2017, 10:19 AM

Watching the video, I thought it looked too small to be a 5 or larger. It your screen grabs make it look like that midrange is fairly small compared to the cabinet width...

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**kzhtoo** · May 4, 2017, 10:56 AM

"Very ambitious ideas", it's a new one they've never done before. Also, looks to be smaller than M3 and midrange driver is at the top. My guess remains the same - M2.

**Kuoppis** · May 4, 2017, 01:12 PM

The tease continues...

Looks like a longish standmounter or floormounter, something. My bet is smaller than the M3.

I might pop by the Magico room in Munich

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**bthomas9** · May 4, 2017, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by Kuoppis

The tease continues...

Looks like a longish standmounter or floormounter, something. My bet is smaller than the M3.

I might pop by the Magico room in Munich

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LOL..."might". Ha!!

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**Tan** · May 4, 2017, 03:27 PM

I think this a tall M1 or M2 speaker. Tall because the midrange is on top of the tweeter like the MPro. I guess it is the same or about the same hight as MPro with its 145 cm

**bthomas9** · May 4, 2017, 04:16 PM

I still think it's a 1/2 size but it's got a lot of update/changes to be in the M line. IMO. Mike may be right, special edition...or maybe whole new line.

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**kzhtoo** · May 4, 2017, 04:17 PM

Or Magico is bringing the tweeter down? I always feel my S3 tweeter is a bit higher.

**GSOphile** · May 8, 2017, 08:55 AM

M5

**Melbguy1** · May 8, 2017, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by GSOphile

M5

North Carolinians always have the inside goss!...must be the grits

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**bthomas9** · May 10, 2017, 04:07 PM

https://www.facebook.com/MagicoLLC/v...9404650106654/

https://youtu.be/l3GBQIWb7IA

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**bthomas9** · May 10, 2017, 04:10 PM

Magico M6

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**Kuoppis** · May 10, 2017, 04:11 PM

120K-ish?

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**bthomas9** · May 10, 2017, 04:15 PM

I'd guess more like 130-150k US dollars with feet/stand being included only - not optional. But nothing official until Munich I'm sure.

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**brodricj** · May 10, 2017, 06:23 PM

Disappointing. I was hoping for a floor-standing M1. Something more affordable to get me into Magico M-Club.

**Mike** · May 10, 2017, 06:24 PM

Originally Posted by brodricj

Disappointing. I was hoping for a floor-standing M1. Something more affordable to get me into Magico M-Club.

Good things come...

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**Melbguy1** · May 11, 2017, 01:28 AM

Interesting. I predicted an M7 would be released and wasn't far wrong. Based on its design and driver compliment, the M6 appears to be the successor to the M Pro, not a replacement for the discontinued Q5 (hence the M6 model designation).

This new model also includes several design innovations incl: a more rounded edgeless design (reminiscent of the Thiel CS3.7), carbon monocoque chassis without the complex cross-bracing of the M3, use of a carbon fiber midrange enclosure, higher quality integrated tripod support which supports the curved cabinet shape & more refined tweeter. It should do for future speaker development what the M Pro did in 2014. I like it!

**Jack** · May 11, 2017, 01:55 AM

You need to buy a pair. I'm sure Mike will take your order.

**wgerman** · May 11, 2017, 10:09 AM

Wow, that base must have been much larger than guessed. That's a lot of speaker sitting on three feet. Curious if its lighter than the Q5. I wander in raw material form if Carbon Fiber is more expansive than aluminum.

**Melbguy1** · May 11, 2017, 11:04 AM

Originally Posted by wgerman

Wow, that base must have been much larger than guessed. That's a lot of speaker sitting on three feet. Curious if its lighter than the Q5. I wander in raw material form if Carbon Fiber is more expansive than aluminum.

It should be lighter than the Q5 as the M6 uses a monocoque enclosure with 1/2" thick carbon fiber walls which Magico sais has the highest strength to weight ratio in their product history. The term they used was "unparalleled". In their promo video you can clearly see (much to Elberoth's chagrine) that other than the horizontal copper connecting rods, Magico were able to eschew the M3's comprehensive cross-bracing due to the new cabinet's superior structural rigidity.

Re: the relative cost of the carbon fiber cabinet. I recall Alon saying that Magico would continue to use extruded aluminium side panels for the S series for the foreseeable future due to it's lower cost vs carbon fiber of the M series. Though with economies of scale as more speakers get produced in carbon fiber, that cost should start to come down.

**the professor** · May 11, 2017, 11:07 AM

Is the M3 lighter than the Q3 was? That will give you a clue as to the weight of the M6 vs Q5.

**Melbguy1** · May 11, 2017, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by the professor

Is the M3 lighter than the Q3 was? That will give you a clue as to the weight of the M6 vs Q5.

No. The M3 weighs 145kg, whilst the Q3 weighs 113kg. Bare in mind if Magico's promo video is accurate, and the higher strength to weight ratio of the new 1/2" thick carbon cabinet has allowed them to eschew the M3's comprehensive cross-bracing; weight should come down dramatically in theory. Hence the tripod support would be more than sufficient.

**bthomas9** · May 11, 2017, 11:15 AM

Originally Posted by Melbguy1

No. The M3 weighs 145kg, whilst the Q3 weighs 113kg.

Beat me to it. Was gonna say M3 is heavier. Was going to list it in pounds, but whatever. 250 vs 320 ea.

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**Melbguy1** · May 11, 2017, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by bthomas9

Beat me to it. Was gonna say M3 is heavier. Was going to list it in pounds, but whatever. 250 vs 320 ea.

No not really...you posted the US version. I just posted the AUS/UK answer

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**wgerman** · May 11, 2017, 02:10 PM

Originally Posted by Melbguy1

Interesting. I predicted an M7 would be released and wasn't far wrong. Based on its design and driver compliment, the M6 appears to be the successor to the M Pro, not a replacement for the discontinued Q5 (hence the M6 model designation).
This new model also includes several design innovations incl: a more rounded edgeless design (reminiscent of the Thiel CS3.7), carbon monocoque chassis without the complex cross-bracing of the M3, use of a carbon fiber midrange enclosure, higher quality integrated tripod support which supports the curved cabinet shape & more refined tweeter. It should do for future speaker development what the M Pro did in 2014. I like it!

When I first saw the M6 I thought of the Thiel CS3.7 too, the aesthetically challanged round aluminum dome which was derided by many critics was functional ( Thiel was ahead of his time).

Curious why its the M6 and not M5. Maybe the M6 will play louder and deeper than the Q5, hence, not a replacement but a tweener between Q5 and Q7. Thinking of someone who wants the ultimate fidelity the Q7mk2 offers in a smaller, better WAF, and more living room friendly package.

Thank you to all for answering the weight question. I still cannot get over how all that mass is sitting on such a "relative" small tri stand. It has to be substantially lighter than the Q5. The M6 may be just as different from the M3 production wise, as the S line.

**PeterA** · May 11, 2017, 02:44 PM

What gets me is the $172K price. The M3 may soon approach $90K according to a friend who just visited a dealer. This does not bode well for the price of a future M1 or M2. The M line looks to be more than twice the price of the S line.

The M6 fit and finish look exemplary as expected in a Magico speaker. The interior with its cone shaped mid enclosure and lack of internal bracing should make construction/assembly much easier. I'm looking forward to reading the reports from Munich.

**KeithR** · May 11, 2017, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by PeterA

What gets me is the $172K price. The M3 may soon approach $90K according to a friend who just visited a dealer. This does not bode well for the price of a future M1 or M2. The M line looks to be more than twice the price of the S line.

Exactly my thought Peter, well said. I yawned once I saw 172k.

**Elberoth** · May 11, 2017, 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by wgerman

Curious why its the M6 and not M5.

Because there already was Magico M5:

They should have called it V5 - it would make perfect sense then and now.

**wgerman** · May 11, 2017, 03:22 PM

Got it. Thank you , I remember those M5s. The Q5 was the replacement and were actually cheaper than the M5 I believe.

**PeterA** · May 11, 2017, 04:10 PM

There was also an M6 that predates the M5. It had a cylindrical all-aluminum cabinet. It was a massive hunk of metal and available around the time of the V series and Mini.

**PeterA** · May 11, 2017, 04:11 PM

Originally Posted by wgerman

Got it. Thank you , I remember those M5s. The Q5 was the replacement and were actually cheaper than the M5 I believe.

A used pair of those M5s for $20K+ would be a great speaker today.

**wgerman** · May 11, 2017, 04:16 PM

The press release answers my question regarding weight.

Driver complement: Tweeter: 1.10" Diamond-Coated Beryllium Dome (x1); Midrange: 6” XG Nanographene Cone (x1); Bass: 10.5” XG Nanographene Cone (x3)
Measurements: Sensitivity: 91dB Impedance: 4 ohms; Frequency Response: 22Hz – 50 kHz; Minimum Recommended power: 30 Watts
Dimensions: 57”H x 26”D x 20”/15”W (143 cm x 66 cm x 51/38cm)
Weight: 390lbs (177Kg)
Suggested US Retail Price: $ 172,000/pair
Ship date: 3rd Quarter 2017

**wgerman** · May 11, 2017, 04:18 PM

Not only lighter also smaller, again per the PR.

"Similar to the external shell of an F-35 fighter jet, this method of construction increases the structural strength-to-weight ratio by a factor of 60, while reducing overall weight by 50% and yielding outer dimensions that are 30% smaller without compromising internal volume. The curved interior and exterior walls minimize internal standing waves and eliminate external diffractions."

**kzhtoo** · May 11, 2017, 06:04 PM

Sigh..the dream for M2 lives on

M6 is gorgeous although its price is not. How many will actually be able to own those, despite impressive new tech?

**KeithR** · May 11, 2017, 09:16 PM

Originally Posted by PeterA

A used pair of those M5s for $20K+ would be a great speaker today.

I agree- just make sure you have arc welder amps to drive them.

**PeterA** · May 11, 2017, 09:29 PM

Originally Posted by KeithR

I agree- just make sure you have arc welder amps to drive them.

I thought they are easier to drive than the Q5 which replaced them. More like my Mini 2: 87dB/4 ohm.

**Melbguy1** · May 11, 2017, 11:19 PM

Originally Posted by PeterA

What gets me is the $172K price. The M3 may soon approach $90K according to a friend who just visited a dealer. This does not bode well for the price of a future M1 or M2. The M line looks to be more than twice the price of the S line.

I agree, the prices are getting stratospheric. Maybe I'm biased, but given the many design features borrowed from the M Pro and S7 (e.g: machined 3D convex top plate, computer-modelled polymer midrange enclosure (as used in the S3), integrated outriggers, diamond-coated BE tweeter, new bass drivers with graphene dust caps & the fact their newly designed 6" graphene midrange drivers were filtered up to the M3), for me the S5 Mk2 is the sweet spot in thier product range.

**Melbguy1** · May 11, 2017, 11:26 PM

Originally Posted by PeterA

There was also an M6 that predates the M5. It had a cylindrical all-aluminum cabinet. It was a massive hunk of metal and available around the time of the V series and Mini.

Yup.

**Melbguy1** · May 11, 2017, 11:28 PM

Originally Posted by PeterA

A used pair of those M5s for $20K+ would be a great speaker today.

+ 1

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**Melbguy1** · May 11, 2017, 11:37 PM

Originally Posted by PeterA

I thought they are easier to drive than the Q5 which replaced them. More like my Mini 2: 87dB/4 ohm.

The M5 was rated at 89db into 4 ohms.

**Elberoth** · May 12, 2017, 03:45 AM

Originally Posted by PeterA

There was also an M6 that predates the M5. It had a cylindrical all-aluminum cabinet. It was a massive hunk of metal and available around the time of the V series and Mini.

Yes, I remember that one. However, that speaker was so limited in production, it was almost a vapor ware. I'm sure most ppl - apart from diehard Magico fans - don't know it even existed.

**Kingsrule** · May 12, 2017, 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by Melbguy1

I agree, the prices are getting stratospheric. Maybe I'm biased, but given the many design features borrowed from the M Pro and S7 (e.g: machined 3D convex top plate, computer-modelled polymer midrange enclosure (as used in the S3), integrated outriggers, diamond-coated BE tweeter, new bass drivers with graphene dust caps & the fact their newly designed 6" graphene midrange drivers were filtered up to the M3), for me the S5 Mk2 is the sweet spot in thier product range.

The "sweet spot" is a used pair of M Project's..........

**cmarin** · May 12, 2017, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by Elberoth

Yes, I remember that one. However, that speaker was so limited in production, it was almost a vapor ware. I'm sure most ppl - apart from diehard Magico fans - don't know it even existed.

The M5 was the second Magico speaker for me. The first was the v3. The M5 was and is a gorgeous speaker. The aluminum faceplate and the wood body are striking. It is still a great sounding speaker and can be had, as a previous poster mentioned, for a relative bargain.

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**Elberoth** · May 12, 2017, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by cmarin

The M5 was the second Magico speaker for me. The first was the v3. The M5 was and is a gorgeous speaker. The aluminum faceplate and the wood body are striking. It is still a great sounding speaker and can be had, as a previous poster mentioned, for a relative bargain.

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I absolutely agree. At the current M5 prices, this speaker is a steal (at least as long as used S5 mk 2 come to the used market).

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