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May 26, 2020, 11:52 PM #1
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Magico and class D amp
I’m planning on getting a pair of the new Magico A5s and I’m researching some integrated systems to drive them. I would like to get something that runs cool and has a small footprint so I started looking into class D amplification. Would something like the upcoming NAD M33 drive them sufficiently or do I need more/different power?
The budget is around $10k but could go a bit higher for the right system. Also my preference is a black component over silver and would like it to be an all in one system that is Roon ready. I’m open to any other suggestions in class D or otherwise.
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May 27, 2020, 12:15 AM #2
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Audio Advisor is a NAD dealer and carries the current M32 so if they eventually carry the M33 then you will have the 30 day trial period. Also Crutchfield and Music Direct both also with trial periods.
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May 27, 2020, 12:41 AM #3
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Congrats on your upcoming A5s. Magico are great speakers.
For a little more you could go with Pass Labs INT-250. Pass and Magico seem to be meant for one another.
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May 27, 2020, 12:55 AM #4
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May 27, 2020, 04:08 AM #6
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I have used the Aavik U-300 (now replaced by U-380) to power Magico V3's. (600 watt per channel @ 4 Ohm, 2 Ohm stabil), this amp is running very cool.
For less money Aavik also has the U-150, (same power output as the U-300/380)Moon 700i V2, YG Acoustics Hailey, Aurender N10, dCS Rossini, Oppo BDP103D (audiopraise board), Ansuz Mainz 8 D2
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May 27, 2020, 08:13 AM #7
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I must admit the Pass "hot" comment is surprising. I was VERY concerned about this as a possible issue before I purchased my Pass. And living in FL (no winters to speak of ...), I researched the issue a lot - I called Pass and I spoke to other owners for months prior to purchase.
I run my 260.8s all day long (12-18 hours per day) and heat is not an issue. While mine do get warm they never get hot - and definitely don't heat the entire house. If they did I definitely wouldn't be considering a Magico M3 and Pass X600.8 combo.
This said, the size of the room is important. My present Pass/Magico combo are in a medium sized room, so if you have a small room, then the felt effect would be different. But even my friend's Class A Audio Research Reference 160Ms don't get hot and his room is smaller than mine - and sounds amazing.
This said, a Pass Class A/B amp would normally run warmer than a Class D amp, but not hot. Mike sells a lot of Pass INTs. Perhaps he can pipe in here.
While the Magico A3s are absolutely amazing, I wish I had a set of A5's while I try to decide on whether I get a set of M3s or not. Based upon my experience with the A3s, I think you will be well-pleased with the A5s.
Enjoy the journey.
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May 27, 2020, 08:23 AM #8
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The INT-60, like the 260.8’s don’t really heat up the house/room. They certainly produce more heat than a standard A/B amp or most certainly a class D amp, but nothing like the bigger amps from Pass (XA160.8 and up).
My customer with XS300’s has a dedicated AC unit for his listening room and just had to install returns directly above the amps to keep the air circulating. Now those amps can heat up some rooms!
It wouldn’t bother me one bit to have the INT-60 or 260.8’s. Their heat output is modest.
As for the A5’s, boy, they are soooo good. I demoed a pair on Saturday for a customer and he will certainly be pulling the trigger.My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
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May 27, 2020, 08:29 AM #9
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If you'd like to save money, Anthem (another underrated Canadian brand) has their STR integrated on sale at the moment. Class A Stereophile rated, DAC included, runs cool, and has room correction.
Sonically, staying with Canadians, I prefer Simaudio to NAD, but it is also more expensive. The Sim 390 is a killer piece, and you could add a Class D amp (or two) and stay under $10,000. I haven't heard their latest integrated amps, but Mike carries the brand, so can give you good advice, as always.
Having said that, NAD has definitely stepped up their game, and I love Jack's advice on getting an in-home demo from AA.Jon
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May 27, 2020, 08:33 AM #10
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May 27, 2020, 09:07 AM #11
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If you want to consider non-Canadian brands, I doubt anything can touch the Boulder 866 for anywhere near its price, although that's probably more than you'd like to spend. $15,000 with the DAC? And might run a little warmer than NAD, Sim or Anthem.
More good questions for Mike.
Also, I don't think Anthem STR is Roon certified, but I'm pretty sure Boulder and Sim are.Jon
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May 27, 2020, 10:58 AM #12
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Naim amps don't run hot/warm and are much more musical than class D. IMO.
Supernait 3 is a great integrated, and as monies are available you can easily upgrade w power supplies.Jock
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May 27, 2020, 12:20 PM #13
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Thanks everyone for the advice so far. I guess hot maybe wasn’t the right description for the INT-60 but it’s definitely warm to touch and you can feel the effect of it, especially in a small/medium size room but even in my bigger living room I didn’t want to have it running for too long.
I did consider (and still considering) Boulder 866 but it felt as warm or warmer to touch when idle than INT-60. The Luxman L-509X (which is also on my list) I saw at a dealer right next to the Boulder was running a bit cooler.
I did look at the Anthem STR integrated and would definitely consider it if it had streaming/Roon integration. And I do like the Simaudio stuff but those would require multiple boxes and would get a bit expensive for what I like. I had not considered Naim or Aavik but will look into them.
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May 27, 2020, 01:51 PM #14
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Aren’t the Luxman and Naim units analog only?
The Exasound Playpoint DM is also very good, but you’d still need to add an amp.
Good luck with the search.Jon
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May 27, 2020, 02:27 PM #15
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You have to get the Naim Unity series I believe to get all the features looked for. I forgot the website but the Naim was #1 in Top 20 streamers according to them.
Not sure pricing or what you'd use for streaming but the Devialet would be a great option. I heard a room using them to drive a set of Magico and it sounded great. They weren't even using the Devialet speaker software.
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May 27, 2020, 02:28 PM #16
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small foot print.. cool running.. serious horsepower...
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May 27, 2020, 02:45 PM #17
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Here's the link, hope it works. The Linn didn't have amplification.
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May 27, 2020, 02:47 PM #18
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Right, that’s why they are not really near the top of my list although I do like the Luxman, if only it had a digital/streaming module built in and came in black
I guess what I’m looking for is a high power all in one unit, >400W into 4 ohm, that runs cool and preferably comes in black. I’m interested in digital only, Roon ready. I guess Lyngdorf TDAI-3400 meets these criteria, I wonder how that would compare with NAD M33. Any others? Anything in the higher price range?
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May 28, 2020, 12:43 PM #25
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May 28, 2020, 01:07 PM #26
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In my opinion Devialet would sound noticeably better than NAD/M33. Obviously the M33 isn't out yet but I haven't heard any NAD Master series so far to come close to the Devialet.
NAD is pushing out some interesting products but they seem to be coming out before the bugs are completely worked out, especially in the software end. I was looking at the NAD C658 for possible use in a system where convenience is important, the user reviews of issues put me on another track.
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May 28, 2020, 01:47 PM #27
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We're using the Devialet Expert 440 Pro Dual with a pair of Magico M2 speakers as our reference setup for personal listening. My preference is for the music to be reproduced as accurately and precisely as possible, as opposed to having some added color. If not using any other speaker correction, the SAM feature can help improve the coherency of a speaker.
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May 28, 2020, 01:58 PM #28
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And Devialet definitely sounds interesting although then I might want the 440 or 1000 but that gets expensive, could always start with 220.
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May 28, 2020, 06:09 PM #31
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The Gryphon 300 puts out a bunch of heat. It's a great piece and its internal dac is awesome. It performs WAY above it's price.
It doesn't get hot to the touch but that's because of it's great heat sinks to disperse the heat. But it does put out a bunch of Btu's.Jock
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May 28, 2020, 06:18 PM #32
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I had a Devolet 1000 and yes on paper it has a lot of watts, but in actual use . . .
To be nice - I'll just say that it would go into protection mode if played loud. Where for example my Accuphase A-35 I had at the same time with its low rated power would play just as loud.
Def try before buying.Jock
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May 28, 2020, 07:53 PM #33
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Magico and Class D... no! And, I’ve owned class D.
Why go there when there are so many good class A and A/B amps._______________
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May 28, 2020, 09:19 PM #35
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May 28, 2020, 10:00 PM #36
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I liked the M3 with VAC’s in mono mode , best for tone and flow IMO..
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May 28, 2020, 10:21 PM #38My Systems: http://www.audioshark.org/showthread...481#post158481
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May 29, 2020, 02:22 AM #39
Magico and class D amp
Devialet
Pre = Class A
Power = Class D
Great combo Magico/Devialet imo.
There are many dealers and tests world wide which would confirm my opinion.
Try it out, it’s a question of taste. The combo sounds neutral.
Personally I would go Magico with VAC.
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May 29, 2020, 02:46 AM #40
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I have owned several magicos and quite consistently, all the amps that sounded the best with them were on the warmer side of neutral. It can be a powerful tube amp or class-A solid state, but they have to be on the warmer side of neutral to make them sound right.
None of the D-Class amps I have tried on my Magicos (Devialet, Nord with NCore modules, Nord with the latest PuriFi modules) worked. The sound was way too thin and was lacking depth.
Of all amps I have tried, the ones I liked most were Vitus SM011 monos, Dagostino Momentum Stereo and my MSB M202 monos. All class A solid state.
I bet the big Conrad Johnson amps (tube) would also sound fantastic. Luxman, Accuphase should sound good with them too.
If you want to stay on the budget, I don't think you can do better than the MSB Technology S201 stereo power amp that is currently listed on AudiogoN @ $4900 (I'm not associated with the seller). For ~$7k you can get the MSB M202 monos - those are really special.Adam
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May 29, 2020, 10:25 AM #41
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I cried when my krell kav 300 il warranty ran out best sounding piece I ever heard but it baked itself every year. other than that I think choosing an amp by how cool it runs is not going to guarantee musical results. $10k is a lot of cash and we know speakers and amps react differently. Why not place the speakers and start listening to first the amps that were in the demo that attracted you to them in the first place? My dealer lets me take anything home for the weekend and while that kinda obligates me to buy from him it's worth it.
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May 29, 2020, 02:55 PM #42
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We also have the Lumin X1+AMP right next to the Devialet, with a separate set of speaker cables to make switching back and forth easy, and Bryston available to swap in too.
FWIW, I've used the Devialet Expert 440 Pro to play movies at reference levels with the Magico S5 MkII and Magico M2 speakers without any problems.Neko Audio
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May 30, 2020, 09:24 AM #43
Re: Magico and class D amp
I've been a Naim owner for about 10 years now. I did audition Devialet at home about 5 years ago. There was an initial 'that's cool' factor, but over the course of the first day (and I had it for a long weekend) I came to not like the sound; not nearly as "musical" as Naim. Clinical, "sharp" my wife called it. That was with my Devore Nines at the time. Maybe it's gotten better??
A Supernait3 would drive A5's nicely. You'd need a second box for digital (NDX2). If I were starting I'd listen to that, and Pass, and Aavik and Boulder if in the price range.Sources: Naim ND555/555PS | Roon Nucleus | Naim Soltstice Special Edition turntable and phono stage
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May 30, 2020, 09:44 AM #44
Re: Magico and class D amp
Hi Mike, that is a bit too much I think, there are definitly set ups with Magico and Class D amps that work well. (Aavik/Devialet), I have listened to the Aavik with A3/V3 and Q3, all three very musical combinations. (I count the Aavik amps to the warm side of neutral)
Olaf
by the way, I am not saying it is the best amp for Magico, but i does work well.Last edited by imprezap2; May 30, 2020 at 09:47 AM. Reason: additional info
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May 30, 2020, 11:38 AM #45
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Re: Magico and class D amp
I've auditioned quite a few amps so far on YG and the little Ampzilla 2000 monos are really great and would work well for Magico. They cost $5500/pr new, street. With the savings, you can buy a nice preamp for under your budget.
Their cost unfortunately counts them out for a lot of audiophiles, but the circuit is really good. They sound very natural and musical with great dynamics and grunt. They also have a 3d-ness quality that most SS amps in this price range lack.Brinkmann Bardo w/ EMT HSD-006 cart, MSB Reference DAC --> Linear Tube Audio MicroZOTL --> Ampzilla 2000, 2nd Edition --> Fyne Audio F1-12
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May 30, 2020, 01:51 PM #46
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They also got a very positive review on the 10Audio site some years ago.
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Re: Magico and class D amp
A lot of different suggestions here, I appreciate all of them, not many people recommending class D, a few Devialet an Aavik suggestions. I guess I’ll have to try different options, I might try a class D with a 30 day trial and I’ll see if I can borrow a Boulder 866 from a dealer, maybe some other amps for comparison.
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