Magico Announces the A3 Loudspeaker

**mep** · January 11, 2018, 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by PeterA

Magico seems to have moved away from stand mounted two-ways since the Q1. Considering that the Mini basically launched the company, I'm curious to know why they have not developed an S Mini or M Mini. Perhaps in time. An A Mini might be very nice, but I would like to see a very high quality, no holds bared design in their reference M line. It would be frighteningly expensive, but there are a lot of small rooms which would benefit from a super high quality Mini. I think the real issue is how could they sell an M Mini that costs more than an S3II? I chose the Mini II over the V3 at the time, but I don't know how many other people made that same choice.

Why did you choose the Mini II over the V3?

**Mike** · January 12, 2018, 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by RonDiy

I don't think I have any dealer's local to me.

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Ron - where do you live? Are you in Ohio? There are two dealers in Ohio.

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**RonDiy** · January 12, 2018, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by Mike

Ron - where do you live? Are you in Ohio? There are two dealers in Ohio.

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Yes in Ohio. Northern part.

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**Mike** · January 12, 2018, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by RonDiy

Yes in Ohio. Northern part.

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I think if you check the Magico website there is a dealer near you, no? Let us know if you go hear the A3’s and what you think.

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**RonDiy** · January 12, 2018, 01:07 PM

Yeah both of those dealers are about 4 hours from me.

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**brodricj** · January 12, 2018, 09:31 PM

Originally Posted by BlueFox

I want to upgrade my CC, and this would be perfect. Then later upgrade the fronts to the A3.

In your sig you have S5MK2. How would A3 be an upgrade on that?

**BlueFox** · January 12, 2018, 10:23 PM

Originally Posted by brodricj

In your sig you have S5MK2. How would A3 be an upgrade on that?

The sig is my stereo. The HT fronts are Aerial Acoustics 7T, and the center is a PSB Synchrony One CC.

**Golum** · January 19, 2018, 11:13 AM

Well, to the ones which are close to Paris - as the world premiere with Mr. Wolf will be there....see below:

"Présence Audio Conseil est heureux d’annoncer la présentation des MAGICO A3 en avant-première mondiale le samedi 10 février 2018, en présence d’Alon WOLF, fondateur de MAGICO.

Grâce à l’implication, la passion, la connaissance,
bienvenue dans l’univers de l’impossible rendu possible.

Magico est fier de lancer sur le marché la gamme A. Attendue de longue date, l’enceinte A3 met en œuvre tout un ensemble de technologies jamais vues à ce jour dans cette gamme de prix. Caisse en aluminium anodisé entièrement rigidifiée par entretoises, tweeter en béryllium, cônes en carbone Nano Graphene, système mobile au néodyme et filtre crossover elliptique déjà bien connu : le modèle A3 rend possible l’impossible.

A découv...rir pour votre plus grand plaisir et l’émotion que procure la musique.

Présence Audio Conseil
Samedi 10 février de 10h30 à 19h30
10, rue des Filles du Calvaire - 75003 Paris
Tél : 01 44 54 50 50
www.presence-audio.com
contact@presence-audio.com"

**Elberoth** · January 19, 2018, 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by kzhtoo

One interesting thing is A3 uses 1.1" pure beryllium tweeter, same dome area as diamond-coated 1.1" beryllium tweeter in M6. Up until M6, different variations of Magico tweeters in Q, S and M series have always been 1" dome.

Magico said A3 tweeter is purpose built for A series.

M3 also has the same size 28mm (1.1 inch) tweeter - I believe it is custom made for Magico by Morel (the 25mm ones are custom made by Scan Speak).

**kzhtoo** · January 19, 2018, 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by Elberoth

M3 also has the same size 28mm (1.1 inch) tweeter - I believe it is custom made for Magico by Morel (the 25mm ones are custom made by Scan Speak).

You're right. Seems there's a typo on Magico site regarding M3 tweeter. It says 1", but it does also say 2.8cm.

**PeterA** · January 19, 2018, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by mep

Why did you choose the Mini II over the V3?

Sorry Mep, I just saw your question.

At the time, I listened to the Mini II in three different systems, and the V3 in two systems. Only one time did I hear them both in opposite sides of the same room. I think this was in the original Sound by Singer room in NYC. I thought the V3 did not sound quite as resolving and there was a slight discontinuity between the drivers. I loved the look of the Mini II and thought it was built to a higher standard. I read that the parts quality was better. It sounded better to me, though it did not have quite the same low frequency extension. Nevertheless, the bass quality was better and the overall sound was more cohesive. The speakers disappeared in the room. I had Eggleston Rosa speakers at the time which were about the same size as the V3. I did not have room treatment, and the Rosa overloaded my small room just a bit, so I did not want to take that risk with the V3.

I absolutely love the Mini II and have no regrets. They are superb sounding and looking. I was just not wow'd by the V3.

**Elberoth** · January 20, 2018, 03:42 PM

Originally Posted by Elberoth

M3 also has the same size 28mm (1.1 inch) tweeter - I believe it is custom made for Magico by Morel (the 25mm ones are custom made by Scan Speak).

I have asked at Magico about the new tweeter, and got the following reply:

'although Morel does the final assembly, not a single part of our M and now A series tweeters is actually made there.'

**hifinutt** · January 23, 2018, 03:12 PM

Originally Posted by Siltech

You can pre-order with any dealer. Just give a deposit, and you'll get them ahead of most people. I live in Toronto, and pre-ordered a pair. Siltech

what without hearing them ? isn`t that a bit risky ?

**RonDiy** · January 23, 2018, 03:21 PM

I agree. I just can't do that without hearing them first. That is a lot of money to not like them.

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**Don8989** · January 26, 2018, 02:10 PM

I am new to the forum and the Magico A3's really have my interest. I now have the Goldenear Triton One's which I am happy with sonically but the appearance of them is not good IMHO.

The A3's are really attractive to me and I will be anxious to audition them.

Don in Northern VA.

**joeinid** · January 26, 2018, 02:14 PM

Welcome to the forum Don, thank you for joining.

**Mike** · January 26, 2018, 02:34 PM

Hi Don - welcome!

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**hifinutt** · February 4, 2018, 02:52 PM

looking forward hopefully to hearing the a3 thursday , should be fun and alon will be there hopefully in london uk

**Mike** · February 4, 2018, 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by hifinutt

looking forward hopefully to hearing the a3 thursday , should be fun and alon will be there hopefully in london uk

Let us know!!

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**hifinutt** · February 4, 2018, 05:56 PM

i will indeed , will hopefully be worth 5 hours travel !!

**hifinutt** · February 9, 2018, 01:37 PM

very enjoyable day today listening to some nice a3 , worth travelling 5 hours to hear . beautifully clear and yet not fatiguing at all . really open sound which i actually almost preferred to the s3 playing upstairs . the black finish may not be to everyones taste but certainly these are small enough to go in the average front room in uk as sealed box . extremely heavy though . it was good to meet alon wolf the designer of this brand and fairplay to him for bringing such a quality product which costs less than most of the preamplifiers in the shop !!

it was playing with some serious dcs gear

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**FDPDK** · February 9, 2018, 05:06 PM

How was sound staging ( 3 D imaging ) with these speakers ?

**hifinutt** · February 10, 2018, 01:58 PM

not bad , i was not in the sweetspot but it was very enjoyable and sense of space . alon used a file for most of recordings and only had a cd at the end so it would have been even better with cd throughout . i could certainly imagine myself in a concert hall

**FDPDK** · February 10, 2018, 04:36 PM

Thank you

**Mike** · February 11, 2018, 08:13 AM

http://hifipig.com/magico-a3-speakers-uk-launch-event/

**BlueFox** · February 11, 2018, 05:32 PM

Really looking forward to the new center channel. My HT upgrade path for 2018 is a new center, and then the A3s. Since the HT is also a spare stereo, I want to move my Lumin S1 into it. That means I am waiting for the next gen Lumin for the stereo.

**hifinutt** · February 12, 2018, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by Mike

http://hifipig.com/magico-a3-speakers-uk-launch-event/

ah yes i met david while i was there

**Mike** · February 14, 2018, 09:06 AM

**audio.bill** · February 14, 2018, 10:06 AM

http://www.hifiplus.com/articles/exc...ten-magico-a3/

**Mike** · February 14, 2018, 10:40 AM

Originally Posted by audio.bill

http://www.hifiplus.com/articles/exc...ten-magico-a3/

"On first listen at least, this window into the music could have easily passed for a much bigger, much more expensive loudspeaker. On first listen, I want a pair!"

Brilliant! I am so excited to get these in the store. Damn, I only ordered two pairs to start (one to go, one to show). I better stock up!

**BlueFox** · February 14, 2018, 01:34 PM

Originally Posted by Mike

I didn't realize it was short. I wonder how it would sound on 2" maple plinths that have 2" brass spikes into the floor?

**Anatta** · February 18, 2018, 07:41 PM

**brodricj** · March 9, 2018, 08:51 AM

I wonder if the new 10% tariff on aluminium imported to the US is going to have flow-on affect to A3 pricing? From what I understand, A3 is built from mass produced pre-fabricated aluminium components sourced from outside the US.

**Golum** · March 9, 2018, 08:55 AM

Originally Posted by brodricj

I wonder if the new 10% tariff on aluminium imported to the US is going to have flow-on affect to A3 pricing? From what I understand, A3 is built from mass produced pre-fabricated aluminium components sourced from outside the US.

I was thinking exactly the same....

**Mike** · March 9, 2018, 01:26 PM

Originally Posted by brodricj

I wonder if the new 10% tariff on aluminium imported to the US is going to have flow-on affect to A3 pricing? From what I understand, A3 is built from mass produced pre-fabricated aluminium components sourced from outside the US.

It’s sourced from INSIDE the U.S.

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**Tony007** · March 9, 2018, 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by Mike

It’s sourced from INSIDE the U.S.

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All the more impressive!

**BlueFox** · March 10, 2018, 12:05 AM

Originally Posted by brodricj

I wonder if the new 10% tariff on aluminium imported to the US is going to have flow-on affect to A3 pricing? From what I understand, A3 is built from mass produced pre-fabricated aluminium components sourced from outside the US.

Out of curiosity, why would you think the A3 uses aluminum components from outside the US? Magico is proud of their ability to machine aluminum into any thing they want. Other than the raw aluminum billets I think they build everything they need from that. Not sure about the drivers.

**Jack** · March 10, 2018, 02:00 AM

Bud

I think his point was related to the tariff on the raw aluminum if sourced from a tariff affected country. He was not questioning their ability to machine it once they are in possession.

**brodricj** · March 10, 2018, 05:56 AM

Magico don't manufacture the A3 aluminium cabinet components, a contractor does it. I read an interview with Alon and I was to understand the cabinet components get manufactured outside the US and then assembled by Magico. If however the cabinet components are manufactured in the US, and the contractor sources that aluminium from a tariff affected country, then a price rise might be indicated.

**Mike** · April 9, 2018, 11:36 AM

Looky looky what’s arrived today.

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**the professor** · April 9, 2018, 11:43 AM

Awesome

Can't wait for your thoughts

**Mike** · April 9, 2018, 11:56 AM

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**Mike** · April 9, 2018, 12:18 PM

Holy Sh!t. Out of the box: “Wow!”. Big, airy, transparent, superb driver integration, no problem filling the 17 x 25 room.

Listening to The Wailin’ Jenny’s - Storm Comin’, the rain drops at the end are so present and real, the vocals are sweet and pure. Bass is articulate and real.

Rick (retired VAC engineer) is here with me. He noted: “there is nothing about these speakers I don’t like. Off axis listening is also excellent.” He has to say that last part, I won’t give him the sweet spot.

Rick is blown away by the driver integration. He called the tweeter/midrange integration “like what you get with a superb monitor, but now, with bass.”

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**Mike** · April 9, 2018, 01:09 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFBcHZtqrng

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QRgBBc2PW8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUYqAM0pPNg

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**Don8989** · April 9, 2018, 01:44 PM

That is exciting news. I can't wait to hear the A3's myself and to read more opinions on them.

**the professor** · April 9, 2018, 01:45 PM

That's exciting

Originally Posted by Mike

Holy Sh!t. Out of the box: “Wow!”. Big, airy, transparent, superb driver integration, no problem filling the 17 x 25 room.

Listening to The Wailin’ Jenny’s - Storm Comin’, the rain drops at the end are so present and real, the vocals are sweet and pure. Bass is articulate and real.

Rick (retired VAC engineer) is here with me. He noted: “there is nothing about these speakers I don’t like. Off axis listening is also excellent.” He has to say that last part, I won’t give him the sweet spot.

Rick is blown away by the driver integration. He called the tweeter/midrange integration “like what you get with a superb monitor, but now, with bass.”

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**Mike** · April 9, 2018, 01:50 PM

These are really, really, really, really, really good. The 28mm tweeter is superb and the larger tweeter allows a superb integration with the midrange. Big huge airy transparent sound.

WOW!!!!

Grand slam HOME RUN!!

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**Mike** · April 9, 2018, 01:58 PM

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**Mike** · April 9, 2018, 02:10 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AT5eIMPONgk

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