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    Re: Magico A5ís Arrive!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by steve59 View Post
    I need to know how these sound with different products. If you ever do listen to the A5 with a Hegel int I would really appreciate hearing your impressions in some detail. no hurries as they would have to be pretty amazing to bump my current system out of the listening room and into the ht room.
    Will do, but I suspect it will be a great match. A 590 and a pair of A5ís. Hmmm...


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    Re: Magico A5’s Arrive!!!!

    YouTube

    Mike, did you put this on youtube just to torment people like me?!
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    Re: Magico A5’s Arrive!!!!

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    Mike, did you put this on youtube just to torment people like me?!
    Wow, if they sound that great on the video, I bet they really compete with the S3 Mk2 and S5 Mk2. The treble sounds so darn smooth. Is there a waveguide on the tweeter because something seems vastly improved there.

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    Re: Magico A5’s Arrive!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Darrel View Post
    YouTube

    Mike, did you put this on youtube just to torment people like me?!
    yes!


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    Re: Magico A5ís Arrive!!!!

    Keep them coming they do look and sound nice.
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    Re: Magico A5ís Arrive!!!!

    We did a demo with the A5ís on Friday and used the Boulder 2160/11160/EMM DV2 at the clients request. Let me tell you, the speakers were definitely not out of their league with this line up. The A5ís continue to punch way above their price point. WAY WAY above their price point!

    Weíve already sold 3 pairs and several sales pending.

    No surprise.
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    Re: Magico A5ís Arrive!!!!

    Mike, the A3s on their release took about 5 months to deliver to it customers. Do you have any idea how long it takes on the A5 from the time of order to delivery? I shouldn't asked because the answer may compromise my bank account.
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    Re: Magico A5ís Arrive!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    We did a demo with the A5ís on Friday and used the Boulder 2160/11160/EMM DV2 at the clients request. Let me tell you, the speakers were definitely not out of their league with this line up. The A5ís continue to punch way above their price point. WAY WAY above their price point!

    Weíve already sold 3 pairs and several sales pending.

    No surprise.
    If Suncoast were close to where I live, I already pulled this trigger 2 months ago.

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    Re: Magico A5ís Arrive!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Darrel View Post
    Mike, the A3s on their release took about 5 months to deliver to it customers. Do you have any idea how long it takes on the A5 from the time of order to delivery? I shouldn't asked because the answer may compromise my bank account.
    Yes, all three pairs shipped in what I consider an under promise, over deliver time frame. Magico said ď4-6 weeksĒ, but it was always much closer to 4.


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    Re: Magico A5ís Arrive!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    We did a demo with the A5’s on Friday and used the Boulder 2160/11160/EMM DV2 at the clients request. Let me tell you, the speakers were definitely not out of their league with this line up. The A5’s continue to punch way above their price point. WAY WAY above their price point!

    We’ve already sold 3 pairs and several sales pending.

    No surprise.
    Not surprised! I now use my A3's with a Naim 552/500 system, and I have zero feeling or experience that I am under-serving my system with "only A3's." I've now listened to them at home with Naim 252/300, 552/300, and 552/500, and each time they are 'hanging in there' and delivering. Takes the speaker upgrade pressure off that's for sure!
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    Re: Magico A5ís Arrive!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Bart001 View Post
    Not surprised! I now use my A3's with a Naim 552/500 system, and I have zero feeling or experience that I am under-serving my system with "only A3's." I've now listened to them at home with Naim 252/300, 552/300, and 552/500, and each time they are 'hanging in there' and delivering. Takes the speaker upgrade pressure off that's for sure!
    Iím just the opposite. Iím feeling the upgrade pressure to an extent.

    While the A3s are absolutely wonderful, from what I understand the A5s: (1) have a better soundstage - better resolved; (2) the midrange is more refined with better resolution/details; and (3) the bass is better, tighter and cleaner than the A3s. If so thatís substantial.

    Am I missing something? Honestly I donít know, but it would be wonderful to experience a set of A5s at length until I make my final speaker selection. But I canít justify the 6 month or so rental fee.

    So much equipment; so little time.





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    Re: Magico A5ís Arrive!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Calvin View Post
    I’m just the opposite. I’m feeling the upgrade pressure to an extent.

    While the A3s are absolutely wonderful, from what I understand the A5s: (1) have a better soundstage - better resolved; (2) the midrange is more refined with better resolution/details; and (3) the bass is better, tighter and cleaner than the A3s. If so that’s substantial.

    Am I missing something? Honestly I don’t know, but it would be wonderful to experience a set of A5s at length until I make my final speaker selection. But I can’t justify the 6 month or so rental fee.

    So much equipment; so little time.
    I'm sure the A5's are "more" speaker. I'm just glad that when I listen to the A3's I'm not overcome with 'must upgrade'
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    Re: Magico A5ís Arrive!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Bart001 View Post
    Not surprised! I now use my A3's with a Naim 552/500 system, and I have zero feeling or experience that I am under-serving my system with "only A3's." I've now listened to them at home with Naim 252/300, 552/300, and 552/500, and each time they are 'hanging in there' and delivering. Takes the speaker upgrade pressure off that's for sure!
    You know what your secret sauce is, donít you?

    NAIM!!!!

    552/500 system. Iím jealous! You should see the mishmash of NAIM I have at home. LOL. Iím using a SN3 as a pre into a 250DR with a HI-Cap and the entry level NAIM streamer.

    I would love 500DR/552/555.


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    Re: Magico A5ís Arrive!!!!

    After watching Mikes porn videos of the A5s my interest has been juiced for these speakers. My main concern is my room size. The ceiling is 8' and the width is 11' and the front wall to my seat is about 17' and then opens to a dining room behind it. I use two small powered sealed subs which I feel give me weight and body to instruments in my current soundstage. I just wonder if the A5 with the power of the Diablo would overpower my listening area. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't need any subs with the A5s.
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    Re: Magico A5ís Arrive!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Darrel View Post
    After watching Mikes porn videos of the A5s my interest has been juiced for these speakers. My main concern is my room size. The ceiling is 8' and the width is 11' and the front wall to my seat is about 17' and then opens to a dining room behind it. I use two small powered sealed subs which I feel give me weight and body to instruments in my current soundstage. I just wonder if the A5 with the power of the Diablo would overpower my listening area. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't need any subs with the A5s.
    Nope, we play them in our 14 x 18 with EASE.


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    Re: Magico A5ís Arrive!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Darrel View Post
    ...I just wonder if the A5 with the power of the Diablo would overpower my listening area. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't need any subs with the A5s.
    My room is the same size as yours. I have M3 and S-Sub. No issues at all.
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    Re: Magico A5ís Arrive!!!!

    With all due respect Mike and brodricj.

    The correct answer was to say that there is no way the A5s could possible work in a room that size!
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    Re: Magico A5ís Arrive!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Nope, we play them in our 14 x 18 with EASE.


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    Do you sit the 'short way?' How far from the speakers is the 'sweet spot?'

    I've found that, in our living room, more than just the dimensions of the speakers goes into whether they appear 'too imposing' for the space.

    The height and width of our A3's is essentially exactly the same as the Devore X. The Devores are about 5 inches deeper. The X's seemed super imposing in our room, where the A3's absolutely do not.

    The room is 13 x 18 and we sit the "short" way, 9 feet from the speakers on my laser when I sit at the sweet spot.
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    Re: Magico A5ís Arrive!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Bart001 View Post
    Do you sit the 'short way?' How far from the speakers is the 'sweet spot?'

    I've found that, in our living room, more than just the dimensions of the speakers goes into whether they appear 'too imposing' for the space.

    The height and width of our A3's is essentially exactly the same as the Devore X. The Devores are about 5 inches deeper. The X's seemed super imposing in our room, where the A3's absolutely do not.

    The room is 13 x 18 and we sit the "short" way, 9 feet from the speakers on my laser when I sit at the sweet spot.
    Which is why I cant tell whether the S3MkII would seem too much, absent dragging them into my room
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    Re: Magico A5’s Arrive!!!!

    I saw this video (*) and the question (rhetorical) that comes to my mind is: did you used the same camera?
    If so the Magico smashes the competition.
    So powerful and clean!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Spock View Post
    I saw this video (*) and the question (rhetorical) that comes to my mind is: did you used the same camera?
    If so the Magico smashes the competition.
    So powerful and clean!


    (*) YouTube
    Yes exact same! I know!!! The A5ís are STUPID GOOD for the money.


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    Re: Magico A5ís Arrive!!!!

    I'm playing Mike's YouTube demo tracks on my M3's now. Nice choices in repertoire. Have a look also at Joseph Tawadros, his recent album with the SSO has been featured on ABC Classic FM this past week, caused me to go out and buy some CD's to spin on my Grandioso.

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    Re: Magico A5ís Arrive!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Darrell - Iíll go in tomorrow and listen longer, but first impressions: if Magico made an S4, this would be it. It has such weight and bass weight. Mids and highs are fabulous. Gotta say, for a $20k ish speaker, this will set a whole new benchmark in performance. Maybe a little too good.


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    Mike,
    The tweeter in A and S series are different, from what i have experienced (comparing A3 to S3MK II and S1MK II) the sound in S series is much more airy, refined and i would say luxuries
    Since A5 use the same tweeter as A3, I cannot see how A5 compared with S_MK II (yes on the button A5 will have more slam than S1MK II & S3MK II) but as a whole package I would still prefer S3MK II over A5 any day.

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    Re: Magico A5ís Arrive!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by exupgh12 View Post
    Mike,
    The tweeter in A and S series are different, from what i have experienced (comparing A3 to S3MK II and S1MK II) the sound in S series is much more airy, refined and i would say luxuries
    Since A5 use the same tweeter as A3, I cannot see how A5 compared with S_MK II (yes on the button A5 will have more slam than S1MK II & S3MK II) but as a whole package I would still prefer S3MK II over A5 any day.
    Please read post #55 where Mike says, "I’ll give the tweeter advantage to the S3 Mk2."

    However, Peter Mackay of Magico states:

    Thank you for your message and inquiry regarding the sound performance of the new A5 in comparison to the original S3.

    We are pleased to report without hesitation that the performance level of the new A5 will easily surpass the original S3 loudspeakers. The advancements made at Magico over the past 2-3 years with transducer, enclosure and crossover designs are vast and have raised the bar significantly since the release of the S3.
    Sincerely,


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    Re: Magico A5ís Arrive!!!!

    Among several other refinements, the S3 MkII has a diamond tweeter. The S3 does not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calvin View Post
    We are pleased to report without hesitation that the performance level of the new A5 will easily surpass the original S3 loudspeakers. The advancements made at Magico over the past 2-3 years with transducer, enclosure and crossover designs are vast and have raised the bar significantly since the release of the S3.
    Uh huh.

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    The new A5's look nice. Anyone know if they will work with a low powered tube amp? I have a friend who is speaker shopping in their price range, he uses a 45 watt/ch tube amp ( not sure of the make) and he will not go ss. We tried his amp on a pair of Wilson Alexia's last week, it was anemic sounding. Funny thing is the amp sounds terrific on his current speakers, a pair of TAD's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pearce Harrison View Post
    The new A5's look nice. Anyone know if they will work with a low powered tube amp? I have a friend who is speaker shopping in their price range, he uses a 45 watt/ch tube amp ( not sure of the make) and he will not go ss. We tried his amp on a pair of Wilson Alexia's last week, it was anemic sounding. Funny thing is the amp sounds terrific on his current speakers, a pair of TAD's.
    I'll refresh your memory:

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    Quote Originally Posted by mep View Post
    I'll refresh your memory:

    double_ja30_16_9_hf.jpg
    ???

    I would like to know if someone can answer my question.Thank you.

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    not surprised it sounded anemic as the alexia is a pig to drive.
    dont know the a5 but it is 87db which would make me want 200+watts@8ohms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by u-sound View Post
    not surprised it sounded anemic as the alexia is a pig to drive.
    dont know the a5 but it is 87db which would make me want 200+watts@8ohms.
    Thanks, looks like a tube amp is out.

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    Thanks, looks like a tube amp is out.
    No Davey, just one without balls.

    No issues with VAC 200iQ monos or ARC REF 160ís here.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pearce Harrison View Post
    Thanks, looks like a tube amp is out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by puroagave View Post
    What happened to your Rowland?
    Yeah and the Sonus Faberís that were going to save the world.


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    ????

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    ????
    The ruse has been over since I called you out on April 12, 2020 on AS on the Jeff Rowland Daemon thread: Jeff Rowland Daemon Ė Reviewing JRDGís Superintegrated Statement Amplifier

    For those that are counting, this is the second time you have "sneaked" back onto AS after being banned as DaveyF. The one thing that has been consistent is that you can't stop pretending to be your own friend. You leave more bread crumb clues than Hansel and Gretel. What I told you on April 12, 2020 still holds true today.
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    double post
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    Quote Originally Posted by mep View Post
    The ruse has been over since I called you out on April 12, 2020 on AS on the Jeff Rowland Daemon thread: Jeff Rowland Daemon Ė Reviewing JRDGís Superintegrated Statement Amplifier

    For those that are counting, this is the second time you have "sneaked" back onto AS after being banned as DaveyF. The one thing that has been consistent is that you can't stop pretending to be your own friend. You leave more bread crumb clues than Hansel and Gretel. What I told you on April 12, 2020 still holds true today.
    Believe whatever you want. Better yet put me on ignore, like I am doing for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pearce Harrison View Post
    Believe whatever you want. Better yet put me on ignore, like I am doing for you.

    For the rest of us, the question of 45 wpc tube power did seem innocent enough.
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    Magico A5 review on soundstage Australia

    SoundStageAustralia.com - Magico A5 Loudspeakers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    No Davey, just one without balls.

    No issues with VAC 200iQ monos or ARC REF 160ís here.


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    I am going to guess, Mike, the A5s with the 160M are a great pairing. I feel my 160s have, if I were pressed, a slight bottom tilt to their overall presentation. A sealed cabinet Magico with its terrific base tonality and clarity would refine the 160sí lowest octaves presentation. Just a guess, and my opinion of 160s (of which my experience is primarily with my Alexia v1, which are difficult to drive for any but the stoutest SS amps.)

    And from what I read, the mids on the A5 must sound amazing with the 160s, where the glorious goodness of tubes are on full display.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jambo View Post
    Magico A5 review on soundstage Australia
    They could at least make a comparison with A3 - not to mention (any) other speakers.
    I know there are some comparisons with A3 here and on some other forums, but still...

    I would be interested in comparison with let's say B&W 800 D3, Dynaudio Confidence 50, Kef Blade, TAD-E1TX, Focal Scala Utopia Evo... - all from the same or very similar price class in Europe (where A5 costs Ä29k / £25k).

    During this unlucky covid situation I don't have a chance to hear Magico, since there is no dealer in my country.

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    Soundstage Australia had a nice review of A5, but without comparing to other speakers it's hard to relate to the review seriously.
    in the review, it is written that the A5 uses the same twitter as M series....so wrong as M series twitter is diamond coated while A5 is not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by exupgh12 View Post
    ...it is written that the A5 uses the same twitter as M series....so wrong as M series twitter is diamond coated while A5 is not.
    I donít believe the review says that.

    Nice review, unfortunately many reviewers just don't take any chances and do any meaningful comparisons.

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    I donít believe the review says that.

    Nice review, unfortunately many reviewers just don't take any chances and do any meaningful comparisons.
    There seems to be a widespread misconception that reviewers can pick an item they want to review that costs ďXĒ amount of money and then they have the ability to call up 3-4 companies with competing products at the same price point and have those sent to them for comparison. Especially when you tell the 3-4 companies that you arenít actually going to review their gear, you are just going to use it to compare against the actual item under review and the comments might not be flattering. Keep in mind that companies bear the cost for shipping their gear to reviewers and back to the company.

    The issue of comparative reviews might sound great to audiophiles, but itís a much more complex issue than people realize.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mep View Post
    There seems to be a widespread misconception that reviewers can pick an item they want to review that costs ďXĒ amount of money and then they have the ability to call up 3-4 companies with competing products at the same price point and have those sent to them for comparison. Especially when you tell the 3-4 companies that you arenít actually going to review their gear, you are just going to use it to compare against the actual item under review and the comments might not be flattering. Keep in mind that companies bear the cost for shipping their gear to reviewers and back to the company.

    The issue of comparative reviews might sound great to audiophiles, but itís a much more complex issue than people realize.
    We should start a thread about widespread audio misconceptions.

    Hereís one I laugh at on Audiogon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    We should start a thread about widespread audio misconceptions.

    Hereís one I laugh at on Audiogon
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    ďOh man, if youíre going to spend $1500 on those speakers, that dealer better come over and set them up in your room and let you hear them in your room for at least a few weeks.Ē




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    Quote Originally Posted by mep View Post
    There seems to be a widespread misconception that reviewers can pick an item they want to review that costs ďXĒ amount of money and then they have the ability to call up 3-4 companies with competing products at the same price point and have those sent to them for comparison. Especially when you tell the 3-4 companies that you arenít actually going to review their gear, you are just going to use it to compare against the actual item under review and the comments might not be flattering. Keep in mind that companies bear the cost for shipping their gear to reviewers and back to the company.

    The issue of comparative reviews might sound great to audiophiles, but itís a much more complex issue than people realize.
    This reviewer (Edgar Kramer) has done a lot of reviews (more than 50 models of speakers for SoundStage! Australia), so he doesn't lack a reference for comparison.

    And, if you ask me - "review" which doesn't mention ANY flaws of a product cannot be considered as relevant. It's almost pure marketing.
    Unfortunately, there are to many "reviews" of that kind. According to these "reviews" all products are great and their worth is much higher than their price, bla bla... A total clichť

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    I opened the review link but didn't read it. Just skipped to the bottom to see how much they cost. $35K in Australia, sounds like a good deal. The local distributor Absolute Hi End is one of the good guys. Fair price, honest advice.
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    i found that to be an excellent review. it might need as well some experience to read a review.
    you do get a lot of useful infos.
    the a5 is easy to set up. that counts so much more than one would think.
    a quality speaker like this will work many decades and most likely will change rooms multiple time during livespan.
    yes, many products these day have no flaws at all. just limitations.
    the reviewer really enjoyed the a5.
    he is experienced and pointed out a good price relation.
    and...he described the kind of sound he got, i felt close by reading.
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