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May 12, 2021, 07:07 PM #1
Magico A5 Review
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May 13, 2021, 02:33 AM #2
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What language is that?
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May 13, 2021, 04:23 AM #3
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German and the price is 32500 Euro/ pair
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May 13, 2021, 08:49 AM #4
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no excuse for a speaker costing that much to be that fugly looking ..........
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May 13, 2021, 10:25 AM #5
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May 13, 2021, 10:47 AM #6
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Inclusive VAT
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May 13, 2021, 05:52 PM #7
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Re: Magico A5 Review
Not quite, you are working it backwards. The Magico is a US brand, hence exporting to the EU automatically increases price by about 20% for VAT, then there is the dollar vs Euro conversion. I believe the US price is around $24k - $25k.
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May 13, 2021, 09:27 PM #8
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May 15, 2021, 03:54 PM #9
Re: Magico A5 Review
English version:
https://www.magico.net/images/Review...2VE8veZfUw_MDk
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May 22, 2021, 11:06 PM #10
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The German list price includes 20% EU VAT, right? The US MSRP does not include State sales tax, right?
And you have to air freight the speakers to International markets, and there is a necessary International distributor function cost that can't be priced for free. All that considered, sounds pretty close to the level playing field parity pricing to me.Speakers: Magico M3, ACC, S-SUB | Electronics: Esoteric Grandioso stack | Amplification: Halcro |
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May 22, 2021, 11:45 PM #11
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June 1, 2021, 04:41 PM #12
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One more, best one so far.
Magico A5 Loudspeakers
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June 2, 2021, 10:34 AM #13
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Magico A5 Loudspeakers
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June 2, 2021, 10:50 AM #14
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@Mike
Post above yours has the same link...
BTW, not so interesting review.
Jeff spent 90% of only interesting part of the review (= sound) talking about bass (and mostly with electronic music)...
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June 2, 2021, 10:57 AM #15
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I enjoyed the review. I like the system he had. MSB Discrete is fantastic with the A5’s.
I also agree with Jeff on Diamond tweeters. Ooooh la la.
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June 2, 2021, 01:20 PM #16
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Re: Magico A5 Review
From another article MSB+ Magico A5
Building a Supersystem Around Magico Speakers and MSB Technology Electronics
Mr. Wolf is dropping hints about the next generation S series!
JF: The A models, and specifically the A5, must be putting upward pressure on the current S series. What plans do you have to address that?
AW: The Magico team has been hard at work. Soon you will find out!
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June 4, 2021, 07:05 AM #17
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Has Magico ever done a Mk3 version of a speaker? I don't think so....reading between the lines the translation might be, there is a S7Mk2 in the pipeline with trickle down driver tech from the A5.
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June 4, 2021, 08:03 AM #18
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June 8, 2021, 06:22 AM #19
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By the in-room measurements shown in July edition of Stereophile, there is a pretty significant roll-off of high frequencies:
8 kHz = -5 dB
10 kHz = -7 dB
15 kHz = -10 dB
20 kHz = -14 dB
I'm curious how this affects the "air" and sense of ambience - for those who have heard them?
Also, even in pretty large room (32' x 24' x 9' 9") the bass seems to be too prominent - of course, it should not be flat and should gradually rise toward the lowest frequencies, but +10 dB at 100 Hz (+6 dB at 150 Hz) seems too much - and that is also addressed in review. What is the optimal room size for them?
And again - most of the sound description in review is related to bass
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June 8, 2021, 08:12 AM #20
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"Also, even in pretty large room (32' x 24' x 9' 9") the bass seems to be too prominent - of course, it should not be flat and should gradually rise toward the lowest frequencies, but +10 dB at 100 Hz (+6 dB at 150 Hz) seems too much - and that is also addressed in review. What is the optimal room size for them?"
With the large boost in bass that comes from this room, is it possible to generate an accurate review of any hi-fi equipment?
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June 8, 2021, 08:19 AM #21
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Every room has some room gain, but it is related to the size of the room. Smaller rooms have more room gain. And this room is far from small, so I don't expect that all "boost in the bass" is related to room gain.
Of course that measurements in room which is not familiar to me are not 100% relevant - that's why I'm asking people who have heard them.
Unfortunately, there are no Magico dealers in my country and during this "C-19 situation" it's a little complicated to travel to other countries just for speakers demo.Devialet Expert 440 Pro | Dynaudio Confidence 50 | 2x SVS SB16-Ultra
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June 8, 2021, 10:35 AM #22
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the German test linked in this thread also shows the bass bump and treble roll off. despite that they gave it a 15 out of a possible 15 points for neutrality.
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June 8, 2021, 11:17 AM #23
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Measurements could provide us some very rough picture about the sound of some speakers, if we have some experience with different speakers and the relations between their measurements and our own listening experience.
Having the described experience, I don't ever judge the quality of speakers by its measurements, but I do have some expectations about how they could sound - their basic sound signature / character.
Speaking about reviews - how shall I put it...
How many reviews have you read lately that are:
1. not saying that the product is very good or great or excellent?
2. not saying that the product which costs more than 10k is fantastic?
3. not saying that it's worth (far!) more than its price tag?
Most magazines even if they were not in the beginning - became pure marketing. 80% of pages are commercials and the rest are some reviews which again sound like a pure commercial. Just take a look at 132 pages of July edition of Stereophile, which is among better magazines
Some Hi-Fi companies invest A LOT into marketing and commercials. No need to name them.
That's why I trust only to my own ears and if I cannot, like now - I like to hear opinions of my friends that I trust or at least hear/read opinions on forums, mostly comparative (with other products) - just to get some rough picture.Devialet Expert 440 Pro | Dynaudio Confidence 50 | 2x SVS SB16-Ultra
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June 8, 2021, 01:26 PM #24
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June 10, 2021, 06:12 AM #26
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July's edition of Stereophile also has a very positive review of the A5. Editor in Chief Jim Austin is the reviewer.
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June 10, 2021, 07:11 AM #27
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It's not on their website yet, but it is in the December print edition I received today. The Magico A5 has won both Stereophile's Loudspeaker of the Year AND Product of the Year awards! Impressive!
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November 11, 2021, 10:12 PM #29
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In the Speaker Olympics MAGICO continues to bring home the GOLD.
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November 11, 2021, 11:37 PM #31
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I've posted previously . . . we've been slowly auditioning speakers locally. There is a certain something about the Magico presentation that really suits us (my wife and me). Their approach to midrange and treble is significantly more "listentable" to us. No sense in fighting it -- we know what we like.
Was pretty ready to pull the trigger on A5 but I have the chance to bring the local demo pair of S5MkII into our home for a week. May as well have a listen to them.Sources: Naim ND555/555PS | Roon Nucleus | Naim Soltstice Special Edition turntable and phono stage
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Bart,
Wow, either way you are going to get a great speaker. And I think you will have a difficult choice to make. I haven’t heard the S5 MkII but have read where they have compared them to the A5s. They’re close. As you know the A5 has some trickle down from the M9. But the S series of Magico is great. I heard the S3 MkII and definitely liked it more than my A3s.
Like you, I own A3s, so I’m not near the level of either of the speakers you are considering.However, I love the A3s. Best speaker I’ve ever owned. But I’m due for an upgrade.
Enjoy your demo. Looking forward to your review … Awesome!
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November 12, 2021, 01:26 PM #34
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While obviosly biased, I love my S5Mk2 speakers, and from both a sonic and appearance perspective. Being able to choose the speaker color to match the room decor is a big plus since they are in the room 24/7 whether being used or not.
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November 12, 2021, 06:29 PM #36
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Sources: Naim ND555/555PS | Roon Nucleus | Naim Soltstice Special Edition turntable and phono stage
Amplification: Naim 552/500DR
Interconnects: Ansuz/Chord Music/Naim SuperLumina
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November 12, 2021, 07:52 PM #37
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TAS' website dropped this yesterday:
Magico A5 - The Absolute Sound
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November 12, 2021, 08:28 PM #38
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that is a very well written review.
great art from magico to tune the a5 to allround pleasure.
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November 13, 2021, 06:11 PM #40
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For some new A5 build photos . . .
SoundStage! Global | SoundStageGlobal.com - Building the Magico A Series Loudspeaker Cabinets
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November 13, 2021, 06:51 PM #41
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That's the rub....the A5's are so good it kills the resale on the Q's.
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