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    Re: New Luxman d-10x sacd/cd-player

    What were the manufacture dates of the players you had?

    I have one of these on order and that would be disappointing
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  2. #152

    Re: New Luxman d-10x sacd/cd-player

    I feel for you! 3 out of my last 4 ~$7K SACD players were defective! (Musical Fidelity Tri-Vista, Ayre, Marantz SA-10.) Letting defective units ship should be unacceptable for a $2K player, much less a $7K or especially an $18K player. And for it to happen twice in a row? That's just irresponsible. I have been lusting after a D-10X, although it's really out of my current price range. Now I feel a tad less envy! Good luck!
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    Re: New Luxman d-10x sacd/cd-player

    If the timing works out, I plan a shoot out between my SA-10 and the D-10x.

    I expect the Marantz to fare quite well in a comparison. I would still buy the SA-10 again. I'm just changing it up for the heck of it and I have some of the MQA cds that the Luxman will be convenient to spin them on as opposed to ripping and playing on my Lumin. I hope the Luxman is outstanding and I haven't read about anyone else experiencing problems with the player but 2 in a row is certainly a red flag if it can be attributed to defective players
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  4. #154

    Re: New Luxman d-10x sacd/cd-player

    I look forward to seeing the results of your comparison!

  5. #155

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    Ditto, the anticipation between the SA-10 and D-10x. Both are on my radar!

  6. #156

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    Wow that's disappointing, 2 units have failed on you, my D-10X hasn't missed a beat, perfect operation evertime

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    Quote Originally Posted by mauideejay View Post
    Now on my second D-10X. First one did not play at all and made high pitched squealing sound. I believe it was a faulty MQA board.
    This one sometimes will not play Single layer SACD's that my Esoteric will. Not all the time but regularly enough to make me send it back.
    So bloody disappointed.
    Are you in communication with Luxman America? They should be all over this! Two defective Luxman units in a row to the same person has to be quite an anomaly.
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    Re: New Luxman d-10x sacd/cd-player

    Yes we are in contact with them and the seller. They are scratching their heads over this. Unfortunately there is also a question over the age of the unit and I am still awaiting word on the changes made between Rev 1 and Rev 2 machines. My original was a Rev 2 but the replacement is a Rev 1. It is hugely disappointing especially given the fact that it sounds so good when it works and I had this pegged as my DAC for discs and streaming via a Lumin U1. I will see what they come back with as an explanation and solution. They are all being very helpful so I know there will be a positive outcome eventually. Just might not entail a 10X sitting in my rack

    BTW...this is in no means a slam on Luxman, my retailer or the player for that matter. Shit happens and these issues can be multi faceted. So I will see what they come back with and take it from there. Luxman are still tops for me.

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    Re: New Luxman d-10x sacd/cd-player

    mauideejay....Sorry to hear about your misfortune with your two D-10X units. Hope it gets sorted out quickly. What do you mean by Rev 1 & Rev 2? I was not aware of any version changes or updates. What is the difference between 1 & 2? What manufacture dates were your two units? When did the change from Rev 1 to Rev 2 take place?

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    Re: New Luxman d-10x sacd/cd-player

    It is not uncommon for Dealers and Manufacturers to keep issues like this under wraps. I have been openly asked not to disclose or post my experience by 2 Dealers and 1 Manufacturer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dznutz View Post
    It is not uncommon for Dealers and Manufacturers to keep issues like this under wraps. I have been openly asked not to disclose or post my experience by 2 Dealers and 1 Manufacturer.
    Stuff breaks. We spend far too much time dealing with it to be honest, especially when those people bought from another dealer. New Luxman d-10x sacd/cd-player

    Just yesterday, two guys with SimAudio CD players and the drawer wouldn’t open. One bought from us, one didn’t. Sim will fix it. They’re great. Like I said, stuff breaks, especially stuff that’s moving.

    Daily, we get calls like “my 1985 Luxman amp isn’t working.” New Luxman d-10x sacd/cd-player


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    Re: New Luxman d-10x sacd/cd-player

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Stuff breaks. We spend far too much time dealing with it to be honest, especially when those people bought from another dealer. New Luxman d-10x sacd/cd-player

    Just yesterday, two guys with SimAudio CD players and the drawer wouldn’t open. One bought from us, one didn’t. Sim will fix it. They’re great. Like I said, stuff breaks, especially stuff that’s moving.

    Daily, we get calls like “my 1985 Luxman amp isn’t working.” New Luxman d-10x sacd/cd-player


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    That's cause in 85 Luxman was owned by ALPINE who drove the name into the ground. You wouldn't get those calls if the Luxman products were made in the 70's!!
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    Re: New Luxman d-10x sacd/cd-player

    As an update to my story. I have a new D-10X shipping directly from Luxman and they will send mine back to Japan for evaluation. They even bought all the same SACD's that were causing issues so they can do some forensic work on it. That's service! I am sure the new one will be the machine i hoped it would be. Meanwhile I have decided to order an X1 which i will use stand alone and as a streamer into the 10X so as to compare the 2 DAC's. I believe the U1 price just went up quite a bit and the difference is much less between it and the X1, so why not?

  14. #164

    Re: New Luxman d-10x sacd/cd-player

    Quote Originally Posted by Rnrmf View Post
    If the timing works out, I plan a shoot out between my SA-10 and the D-10x.

    I expect the Marantz to fare quite well in a comparison. I would still buy the SA-10 again. I'm just changing it up for the heck of it and I have some of the MQA cds that the Luxman will be convenient to spin them on as opposed to ripping and playing on my Lumin. I hope the Luxman is outstanding and I haven't read about anyone else experiencing problems with the player but 2 in a row is certainly a red flag if it can be attributed to defective players
    Christian – Did you receive the D-10x yet? If you did, what are your initial thoughts in comparison to the Marantz SA-10?

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    Re: New Luxman d-10x sacd/cd-player

    Quote Originally Posted by Crumhorn View Post
    Christian – Did you receive the D-10x yet? If you did, what are your initial thoughts in comparison to the Marantz SA-10?

    Thanks!
    I did. The Luxman is in a different league compared to any digital I've ever listened to.
    Not to take anything away from the SA-10 as it was the most enjoyable sacd/cd player I've owned up to the Luxman.

    The Luxman is realistic in reproducing music in a way I've never heard music digitally reproduced before.

    The phrase that reviewers sometimes write along the lines of "hearing things on discs that one has never heard before" always struck me as hyperbole but that's the only way I can describe the Luxman.

    The digital components I compared the Luxman to were the Lumin X1 and the Marantz SA-10 - and the Luxman is incontestably superior to my ears.
    Christian

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    Re: New Luxman d-10x sacd/cd-player

    Hello,

    Did you have an opportunity to compare the D-10X to any of the newer Esoteric offerings? That seems to be the main competition. Thanks.

    Randy

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    Re: New Luxman d-10x sacd/cd-player

    Quote Originally Posted by jet787 View Post
    Hello,

    Did you have an opportunity to compare the D-10X to any of the newer Esoteric offerings? That seems to be the main competition. Thanks.

    Randy
    I have not heard the new Esoteric offerings. The other options I considered were the Esoteric K-01XD and the K1X, though.
    Honestly, I didn't want to be tempted by the thought of adding a clock or power supply to the Esoteric units. I really wanted a one box solution that I could be happy with. And at this point, I'm very happy with the performance of the Luxman. I had modest expectations at best and expected a different voicing and maybe a little of this or that, but the Luxman checks every box in every category I can think of. There is nothing lacking for me. I was apprehensive with some descriptions of the player as very "neutral" but I needn't have been concerned.
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    Re: New Luxman d-10x sacd/cd-player

    Got my D10x this morning after almost a year of waiting.
    out of the box, it sounds so open, detailed, and yet liquidy, mid are natural to little warm, the low end is very defined - just raise my expectation bar for performance level after the burn-in process.

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    Re: New Luxman d-10x sacd/cd-player

    Please let us know how you like it after some break in. It looks wonderful!

  20. #170

    Re: New Luxman d-10x sacd/cd-player

    She will get better, more dynamic and resolving, welcome to the D10x club

    Enjoy!

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    Re: New Luxman d-10x sacd/cd-player

    Everyone still liking their D-10X’s?

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    Re: New Luxman d-10x sacd/cd-player

    Quote Originally Posted by Rnrmf View Post
    The Luxman is in a different league compared to any digital I've ever listened to.
    Not to take anything away from the SA-10 as it was the most enjoyable sacd/cd player I've owned up to the Luxman.
    The digital components I compared the Luxman to were the Lumin X1 and the Marantz SA-10 - and the Luxman is incontestably superior to my ears.
    Thanks for your thoughts on this and comparison with your Marantz. I own an SA-7S1 and have been looking at the DX-10.

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    Re: New Luxman d-10x sacd/cd-player

    So far, so good.
    The sound is great and everything works perfectly.

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    Re: New Luxman d-10x sacd/cd-player

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    I should have mine in 2 weeks or so. I’ll have Mike & Rick (my employees) do a blind shootout Vs the K-03XD!


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    Mike, how did the shootout go? 🤔🙏

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panelguy View Post
    Mike, how did the shootout go? New Luxman d-10x sacd/cd-playerNew Luxman d-10x sacd/cd-player
    Good, we had a lot of fun. Both great players.


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    Re: New Luxman d-10x sacd/cd-player

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Good, we had a lot of fun. Both great players.


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    Good to hear 😊 What was the major sonic difference?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panelguy View Post
    Good to hear New Luxman d-10x sacd/cd-player What was the major sonic difference?
    You really need to go listen for yourself. You’re in Europe. Hopefully you can find some where to listen. Munich will have luxman and esoteric rooms.


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    Re: New Luxman d-10x sacd/cd-player

    So, I finally bought the D-10X from Suncoast since that's where I heard about it first, and Mike was so keen on it when it was introduced. I could have bought anything. I was going to go listen to K01-XD at a dealer, but never got around to it.

    Put the Luxman on a set of CMS Center Stage 2M, 1.0 footers. Sounded good right out of the box, but once it burned in, WOW. I couldn't be happier. Thank you, Suncoast!

    (Oh, my analog set-up is a 3-motor, TW Acustic Raven Anniversary, on CMS TT footers, with a Triplanar arm and Lyra Etna cartridge)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    You really need to go listen for yourself. You’re in Europe. Hopefully you can find some where to listen. Munich will have luxman and esoteric rooms.

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    Very appropriate response.

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