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May 8, 2020, 07:44 PM #1
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X1 Power Supply Upgrade
Has anyone had the opportunity to upgrade their existing T1/A1/S1/U1 to the new X1 power supply?
I love my U1, but am very intrigued by the potential benefits of hooking it up to an X1 PSU.
A few questions on my mind:
How much does it cost?
What are the specific sonic benefits one can expect?
Anyone who has already done this...what results did you experience?
Thanks in advance for your help with this!
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May 8, 2020, 11:20 PM #2
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I have, on my U1.......it’s expensive at $2k but brings about meaningful improvements! The biggest is the noise floor reduction which in turn reveals more texture, nuances, recession in soundstage.
Imv, it a very personal thing whether one would want to spend that much. I have no regrets at all!
Hope this helps
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May 8, 2020, 11:20 PM #3
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Re: X1 Power Supply Upgrade
I have, on my U1.......it’s expensive at $2k but brings about meaningful improvements! The biggest is the noise floor reduction which in turn reveals more texture, nuances, recession in soundstage.
Imv, it a very personal thing whether one would want to spend that much. I have no regrets at all!
Hope this helps
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May 8, 2020, 11:46 PM #4
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Before I bought my X1 I upgraded my S1 to the X1 power supply, and was glad I did. It was a while ago, and I have forgotten the specific details, but it was a major, positive improvement.
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Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
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Three 20 amp circuits.
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May 9, 2020, 04:00 PM #5
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Re: X1 Power Supply Upgrade
Thanks all for your feedback on this. I'm debating whether it may be worthwhile to just sell my U1 and use the proceeds towards purchasing the entire X1. I would rather not see a perfectly good power supply unit for my existing U1 go to waste (I don't think Lumin has a program to trade in the stock PSU), if I end up having to fork out $2K for the X1 power supply.
I wonder if there any other advantages beyond the power supply of using the X1 instead of the U1 as my dedicated streamer to my DAC?
For some background, I am currently using the Lumin U1 with stock power supply, to stream via its USB output to the MSB Reference DAC, with upgraded Femto 77 clock, and Pro ISL module.
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May 9, 2020, 05:49 PM #6
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I upgraded my U1 with a sbooster and it was worth every penny
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May 9, 2020, 05:59 PM #7
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Guys, just be aware that using any non-Lumin Power Supply voids the warranty. The distributor has been very clear about that. One dealer has been pushing this and NOT disclosing it to his customers. So be aware.
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May 23, 2021, 10:51 AM #11
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Re: X1 Power Supply Upgrade
Good thread and also looking for further feedback on upgrading the power supply on my U1 to the X1 power supply.
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May 23, 2021, 12:10 PM #12
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Re: X1 Power Supply Upgrade
Though I have read what appears to be consistent positive reports on 3rd party power supply upgrade modifications, my understanding is not only does this void the warranty, but Lumin also will not perform repairs/work, even non-warranty, on units with modifications--requires restoring back to factory configuration first. The good news for those with modded units is there does not appear to be much reported need at this time to send units in for manufacturer service.
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May 23, 2021, 12:26 PM #13
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Bud
Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
Sony XA-5400ES SACD
Pass XP-22 pre, X600.5 amps
Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers, SPOD spikes
Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR for source, Denali 2000 (2) for amps
Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables
Mapleshade Samson four shelf maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
Three 20 amp circuits.
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May 23, 2021, 03:40 PM #14
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Re: X1 Power Supply Upgrade
I think he was referring to modifications on the Lumin units with a built in power supply, not swapping external power supplies.
I tried an X1 power supply on my Lumin A1 and it was a nice improvement. That said, I like the A1 both with and without it but after hearing an X1, I'd recommend putting the funds toward an X1 so great is the upgrade in sound with the newer, more expensive player if your system is up to it.
Perhaps it would be a better value to add the X1 power supply to a U1, though.Christian
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May 23, 2021, 09:50 PM #15
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The X1 PSU upgrade from Lumin is official, but it only works for U1 / S1 / A1 / T1.
For third party unofficial power supply upgrades that change the internals of other Lumin models (mostly T2 D2 U1MINI), it voids warranty. Please restore the unit to original parts before sending it for repair.Peter Lie
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May 24, 2021, 05:40 PM #16
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Le Roy
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May 24, 2021, 11:06 PM #17
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May 24, 2021, 11:07 PM #18
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May 25, 2021, 05:43 PM #19
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Re: X1 Power Supply Upgrade
Can the X1 PSU “properly burn in” without being plugged into a unit?
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May 25, 2021, 09:03 PM #20Le Roy
Austin, Tx : Soulution 520 preamp, 501 mono blocks, 541 SACD/560 DAC w/ Network Streaming, Raidho D3.1, Lumin U1, Uptone Audio Modded Mac Mini w/ MMK fanless kit & JS-2 LPS, Regen, Ansuz DTC loom (complete), Oppo 105D, QNAP TS-451+
Chicagoland : Soulution 725 preamp, 711 stereo amp, 541 SACD/560 DAC w/ Network Streaming, Raidho D5.1, Naim UnitiServe 2TB, Aurender W-20 Ansuz DTC later generation wire, Teac X1000 R2R, QNAP TS-451+
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May 26, 2021, 06:57 AM #21
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Re: X1 Power Supply Upgrade
I purchased the X1 PSU some time ago to use with my S1. It definitely made an improvement to the sound. It may be worthwhile for Lumin to sell the X1 without a PSU, so that people, like myself, could upgrade the main unit without currently having to buy a complete system and be left with two X1 PSU's.
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June 4, 2021, 10:33 AM #22
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Okay got a X1 LPSU coming in. Will update after some time.
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June 7, 2021, 11:25 PM #23
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Re: X1 Power Supply Upgrade
Just buy the X1, it’s just damn good
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June 8, 2021, 09:38 AM #24
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June 11, 2021, 01:28 PM #25
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So yah, crazy me…I added the X1 PSU to the U1 and the inter webs doesnt lie… noise floor dropped, stage seemingly sounds tad wider than before. It takes an edge off the current stock U1 which really was already soooooo good. Caveat emptor - you dont know you have an ‘edge’ on your system till you do these A/B tests. I was quite happy when the U1 finally setting in after 1 month 24x7 playing music.
One thing I noticed, sounds like the snares are a little further behind the singers now. They were before, maybe the effect of it being ‘quieter’ with less of an edge makes it sound further now. But the voices no longer seem to be as forward as they were before…. But still that nice, rich-treble occupying the stage, Lumin sound.
I also went ahead and jumped in heads first on an X1 crazy me Divorce papers next…._______________
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October 15, 2021, 04:32 PM #28
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October 15, 2021, 04:40 PM #29
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Hi there. The added X1 PSU to the (big) U1 provided more ‘stability’ to the stage. What I mean by that, all the instruments and space of the stage seem to have gained some height and depth.
As stated, the differences were immediately noticed. From memory it seemed that the U1 loss some immediacy/forwardness which I actually loved from a stock U1. Also, the edge-yness of the instruments were removed IME. You won’t know this till you do a complete A/B.
Whether you’ll like it that’s going to be up to you to try it.
For what its worth, I think the U1 stock is amazing at what it does, I liked it better than the stock U1 mini which is really good too._______________
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October 15, 2021, 11:15 PM #30
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I upgraded my Lumin S1 with an X1 power supply, and the sonic improvement was obvious. Later I upgraded the S1 with a X1, and that was another sonic improvement.
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Lumin X1 file player, Westminster Labs interconnect cable
Sony XA-5400ES SACD
Pass XP-22 pre, X600.5 amps
Magico S5 MKII Mcast Rose speakers, SPOD spikes
Shunyata Triton v3/Typhon QR for source, Denali 2000 (2) for amps
Shunyata Sigma XLR analog ICs, Sigma speaker cables
Shunyata Sigma HC (2), Sigma Analog, Sigma Digital, Z Anaconda (3) power cables
Mapleshade Samson four shelf maple rack, Micropoint brass footers
Three 20 amp circuits.
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October 16, 2021, 08:12 AM #31
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Legacy Aeris Mains (with DSP Wavelet), Dual Legacy Foundation Subs, Legacy Marquis Center, Legacy Phantom Surrounds. Legacy Ice amps, Lumin U1 Transport, Oppo 105D, Marrantz 8807 processor with Morrow cables.
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September 5, 2023, 07:34 AM #32
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Re: X1 Power Supply Upgrade
Hello
Has anyone tried the Kenneth Lau PSU , vs the X1 psu ?
Cheers
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September 5, 2023, 09:14 PM #33
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I've known of no one replacing the X1 PSU with it.
Peter Lie
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September 6, 2023, 02:58 PM #34
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Re: X1 Power Supply Upgrade
Many thanks Peter
I should say that the Kenneth Lau Psu is an upgrade for the basic Lumin PSU on my U1
Will try the X1 soon
Cheers
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