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    Replacement power cable for Lumin X1

    I'd like a very short umbilical to connect the X1 to it's power supply. Has anyone ventured into the world of replacing that cable and, if you have, do you have any specifics that you could share?

    Thank you! Stay safe!

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    Re: Replacement power cable for Lumin X1

    If i am not completely mistaken , i remember having read a review where they mention Westminster Lab, makes a cord that should make a good difference.
    If i find that review i will be back with the link , for you.
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    Re: Replacement power cable for Lumin X1

    Well now i found the review , and its mentioned almost at the end.
    Mono and Stereo: LUMIN X1 REVIEW
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDPDK View Post
    If i am not completely mistaken , i remember having read a review where they mention Westminster Lab, makes a cord that should make a good difference.
    If i find that review i will be back with the link , for you.
    Thanks much. It's not that I don't like the cable that is provided I just need a much shorter one. I'll check for Westminster Lab as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FDPDK View Post
    Well now i found the review , and its mentioned almost at the end.
    Mono and Stereo: LUMIN X1 REVIEW
    Thanks Flemming. I wrote them an RFQ on a 0.5 meter cable. If it pans out I'll post back here. Take care

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    Re: Replacement power cable for Lumin X1

    Please let us know if there is any audio improvements. I quickly looked through the article, and didn't see any comments on the cable.
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    Re: Replacement power cable for Lumin X1

    I’d be interested as well, assuming the A1 and X1 use the same cable. A shorter cable would look tidier than the 2 meter + cable that comes stock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oly View Post
    I’d be interested as well, assuming the A1 and X1 use the same cable. A shorter cable would look tidier than the 2 meter + cable that comes stock.
    For me, about a 0.5 meter cable would be perfect. I know the X1 has a nine-pin connector and I forget what the A1 had. They may not be a direct replacement but, as always, I could be wrong.

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    Re: Replacement power cable for Lumin X1

    Just looked and the A1 uses 8 pins rather than 9
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    Re: Replacement power cable for Lumin X1

    Quote Originally Posted by Oly View Post
    I’d be interested as well, assuming the A1 and X1 use the same cable. A shorter cable would look tidier than the 2 meter + cable that comes stock.
    Exactly, the A1 is 8 pins and the X1 9, but if I'm not mistaken, the X1 cable is thicker and the connectors are of better quality.

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    I was contacted by the good folks at WestminsterLab in response to my email and now am in the process of trying to raid the piggy bank and check the couch cushions to come up with the means to purchase the 0.6m cable I'd like. I'll keep you posted.

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    Re: Replacement power cable for Lumin X1

    That sounds really interesting , fingers crossed .
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDPDK View Post
    That sounds really interesting , fingers crossed .
    I've decided it was a little rich for my blood. I wasn't really looking for a sound quality improvement but, rather, cleaning up the rat's next behind my equipment. I may choose to source the connectors myself and reverse engineer the one I have or get out the wire cutters and soldering station and re-terminate the one I have.

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    Re: Replacement power cable for Lumin X1

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueSky View Post
    I've decided it was a little rich for my blood. I wasn't really looking for a sound quality improvement but, rather, cleaning up the rat's next behind my equipment. I may choose to source the connectors myself and reverse engineer the one I have or get out the wire cutters and soldering station and re-terminate the one I have.
    The making of the cable can be difficult. Even if you choose to DIY, do not modify the original cable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wklie View Post
    The making of the cable can be difficult. Even if you choose to DIY, do not modify the original cable.
    Message received. How about considering offering to make some short ones that we could purchase. I suspect most of us have the PS relatively close to the main unit and this certainly would be helpful.

    Respectfully...........

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    Re: Replacement power cable for Lumin X1

    I’ve looked into a new cord for my bryston BP26 and was told by a audio dealer they don’t make a sound quality difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by schmidtmike76 View Post
    I’ve looked into a new cord for my bryston BP26 and was told by a audio dealer they don’t make a sound quality difference.
    I would agree with that assessment. I was looking at it from an aesthetic purpose only. The Hirose (HSE) connectors or equivalent is going to be the real show stopper for me as they don't seem to be available. Probably a custom connector that Lumin had made. If anyone knows of a substitute connector I'd appreciate it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueSky View Post
    I've decided it was a little rich for my blood. I wasn't really looking for a sound quality improvement but, rather, cleaning up the rat's next behind my equipment. I may choose to source the connectors myself and reverse engineer the one I have or get out the wire cutters and soldering station and re-terminate the one I have.
    Update: I "undecided" that it was too rich for my blood and have placed an order with Angus of WestminsterLab for a 0.6m carbon fiber wrapped replacement cable. I expect it sometime next week and I will keep you all posted with unboxing, installation, break in and findings. Part of the reason I decided to give it a try is the "vibe" I got exchanging emails with the owner and his willingness to share details about construction techniques, materials used, etc. This kind of willingness to communicate goes along way with me.

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    I explored the same venture quite some time ago. There is nothing complicated about the cable, even the cable connectors are available for purchase through various retailers online. But what I do recall is that a couple of the pins carried a bit more current than others, and a few weren't even used. So changing out the cable would be a little more complicated but shortening it with the factory one would be quite easy as long as you ensure that you reconnect each lead back to exactly the same pin position.

    If you're curious why Lumin doesn't just say "Sure!" to a shorter cable request its because they don't manufacture it themselves. They bring it in, in bulk, in the factory length and asking their supplier for a single shorter length, I assume, isn't worth the trouble or potentially additional cost. A factory cable replacement cost $200 USD last time I checked.

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    Thanks for that. I did disassemble one of the connectors and can confirm what you said regarding the relative ease of shortening the end of the cable. Nothing extraordinary there.

    That being said, I did place an order with WestminsterLab and it was being "run in" and should ship to me by FedEX tomorrow, Monday, H.K. time. It was an order of magnitude more expensive than the replacement cost you mentioned above but it is what it is.

    I'll post my findings upon receipt and installation of the 0.6m cable. Although not expecting much but prior to doing the final break-in and listening tests on the new cable, I am going to do a little testing with an ultra sensitive nano-volt meter to determine if the Lumin's output quiescent noise level is different on the new cable as opposed to the old one.

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    Agreed, the same offer was made to me at around $1200 if I recall correctly. Keep in mind that the man behind Westminster is also involved in Lumin. So there certainly is some reciprocal benefit from “up-selling” to that cable. Im curious to hear your impressions.

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    Oh my. I didn't know that there was a "connection" between the two companies and now, that I know that, I am not sure how that makes me feel but it is what it is and "caveat emptor" always applies. Always do your due diligence when it comes to anything. BTW, the offer they made to you was pretty good in comparison.

    I will be happy to let you know my thoughts on the new cable when I get it.

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    I received my new cable this morning. WestminsterLab used the fastest FedEx shipping method and I would have had it overnight except the US Customs folks needed to be satisfied that everything was on the up and up. Thanks for the quick shipping!

    Opening the box caused me a bit of surprise. I believe that I had read somewhere that the new Lumin X1 power supply had used a 9-pin connector. To my surprise, the the new cable had 10-pin Hirose connectors which sent a chill up my spine. What if the new cable did not work?? Not to worry, because, when I checked the OEM cable, it was found to also be in a 10-pin configuration. Either the literature I read was wrong or my memory had failed.

    In any event, before replacing the cable, I borrowed a friend's Keithley 2182A nano-volt meter to do some, probably useless, measurements of the noise at the output of the X1. I connected the meter to the X1's left channel XLR output terminated in a "dummy load" of 20kohms and played a track ripped from a "SilentCD". The tracks on this disk are described as absolute silence and, with the OEM cable, I measured an RMS voltage level of about .0063741mv which I assume is the noise level of the output. I then swapped in the new 0.6m Westminster cable with the optional carbon fiber wrap, played the same track and took the measurement. The RMS value of the noise I measured dropped from .0063741mv to .0042476mv. If my calculations are correct, that appears to be about a -3db drop in "noise" at the output just by changing from the long OEM to this shorter custom cable. I don't know what to attribute the loss to but maybe it's the shorter length and possibly the shielding of the cable. I am also not saying that the drop in output noise level would ever be audible but it is just a data point. (Please note that I was unable to hear any audible noise through the speakers that I could attribute to the X1 with my ear against the speaker's tweeter and mid range speakers with either cable.)

    Keeping my fingers crossed, I am going to let the cable settle in for a while before doing any critical listening but I will post my findings when I get a chance to sit for a spell.

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    Re: Replacement power cable for Lumin X1

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueSky View Post
    The RMS value of the noise I measured dropped from .0063741mv to .0042476mv. If my calculations are correct, that appears to be about a -3db drop in "noise" at the output just by changing from the long OEM to this shorter custom cable.
    I input these values into a web site calculator and got -3.5dB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wklie View Post
    I input these values into a web site calculator and got -3.5dB.
    Peter, thanks for the correction. I am still a little surprised that I was able to detect any measurable difference at all but the nano-volt meter is pretty sensitive I guess. Now I wish I had an audio or spectrum analyzer to find out just where the noise frequencies that I am measuring reside. In any event this is pretty exciting to me.

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    Re: Replacement power cable for Lumin X1

    I am more interested in what differences you will be able to hear / or not hear. And would also be nice with a photo of the cable.
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    I have tried to upload a picture using the "manage attachments" function below and hope it "takes".

    I, for one, have never been able to hear audible differences between line fuses but I will provide my thoughts regarding s.q. changes, plus or minus, at a later date. And because, hearing can be so subjective your mileage may vary of course. Since a cable swap can be accomplished in less than a minute, I should be able to do some comparisons without loosing the sense of what each cable "sounds" like.
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    I’ve listened to the system now for four or five hours with the new cable and my initial impressions are that the music emerges from a darker, more velvety background. Before the cable swap, I used to have to almost strain to enjoy the opening bars of Leonard Slatkin and the Orchestre National de Lyon’s rendition of Ravel’s Bolero in 192khz 24bit. Either due to the drop in noise floor and/or increase in my system’s ability to reveal more of the low-level information, i.e. “microdynamics” (?), brought by the WestminsterLab cable, my system now allows me to become fully involved in the music without having to ride the gain control early on in the piece. Also, on Shelby Lynne’s “Just A Little Lovin’, also at 192khz 24bit, the cymbals shimmer a bit more to my liking and the drum rim shots seem to have quite a bit more “attack” or sharper transients in the opening sequence. Finally, in Leopold Ludwig and the LSO’s version of Dvorak’s New World Symphony also in 192khz 24bit, the English Horn solo in the Largo, or second movement, is the best I’ve ever heard it. Although I didn’t do any A/B comparisons to the cable I do intend to revisit that idea at some point.

    I was kind of hoping for some increases in the width and depth of the X1’s already exceptional 3D sound stage but haven’t notice any so far. The X1 continues to hide the B&W 800’s from view with a sound stage that expands far outside the L/R and front to back physical placement of the speakers in my room. With the X1, I just don’t perceive that the sound is coming from a physical pair of speakers in the room.

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    Re: Replacement power cable for Lumin X1

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueSky View Post
    The X1 continues to hide the B&W 800’s from view with a sound stage that expands far outside the L/R and front to back physical placement of the speakers in my room. With the X1, I just don’t perceive that the sound is coming from a physical pair of speakers in the room.
    I was just talking to our product managers yesterday that the one time I got many visitors telling me they loved the SQ of our Lumin S1 setup in Hong Kong audio exhibition was when we were using B&W 800D several years ago. B&W is a really popular brand in my location, with a very robust used market. When I was in high school, my physics teacher also said he used B&W speakers. Two people in our company own B&W speakers.
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    Re: Replacement power cable for Lumin X1

    B&W makes some really nice speakers at different price points. I still have a pair in a spare system (which is basically a UHD home theater system) of P6s (I think they were $1,600 new so they weren't anywhere near the top of the line) which I bought when then were new in 1997. I had a friend over recently who wanted to hear my various back-ups systems (he never heard any of them except my main system). I played music files using my Panasonic UB-9000 and he was quite blown away of how good the system sounded. They image quite nicely.
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    Re: Replacement power cable for Lumin X1

    Quote Originally Posted by BlueSky View Post
    I’ve listened to the system now for four or five hours with the new cable and my initial impressions are that the music emerges from a darker, more velvety background. Before the cable swap, I used to have to almost strain to enjoy the opening bars of Leonard Slatkin and the Orchestre National de Lyon’s rendition of Ravel’s Bolero in 192khz 24bit. Either due to the drop in noise floor and/or increase in my system’s ability to reveal more of the low-level information, i.e. “microdynamics” (?), brought by the WestminsterLab cable, my system now allows me to become fully involved in the music without having to ride the gain control early on in the piece. Also, on Shelby Lynne’s “Just A Little Lovin’, also at 192khz 24bit, the cymbals shimmer a bit more to my liking and the drum rim shots seem to have quite a bit more “attack” or sharper transients in the opening sequence. Finally, in Leopold Ludwig and the LSO’s version of Dvorak’s New World Symphony also in 192khz 24bit, the English Horn solo in the Largo, or second movement, is the best I’ve ever heard it. Although I didn’t do any A/B comparisons to the cable I do intend to revisit that idea at some point.

    I was kind of hoping for some increases in the width and depth of the X1’s already exceptional 3D sound stage but haven’t notice any so far. The X1 continues to hide the B&W 800’s from view with a sound stage that expands far outside the L/R and front to back physical placement of the speakers in my room. With the X1, I just don’t perceive that the sound is coming from a physical pair of speakers in the room.
    To increase the width and depth of ones system. The easiest and cheapest way is by adjusting you speaker/listening placement and room treatment. But you have managed to "hide" your speaker so I would think you have done a great job and it won't be easy to find another sweet spot without any drawbacks.

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    Thanks A. The cable is doing really well for me in my environment. Many thanks!

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    Can anyone recommend a shorter cord between the X1 and PSU, as the Westminster Labs .6m cord is $1900? Thanks.

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    eickenho Welcome to the forum.
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    eickenho,

    Suggest contacting Steve Huang at AudioSensibility. His pricing was less than half what you referenced. I did get a .5m from him less than a month ago. He priced me several lengths.

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    Thanks further. Did you find Steve’s cable to be an upgrade to the standard cord?

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    eickenho,

    I have not done alternating testing of the two cables yet, since getting Steve's cable, but I will soon. It is a bit of a hassle challenge changing cables on the XI, especially the power cord. I made another change during the past month by replacing footers with A/V RoomService EVP ones. I wanted to get used to the changes there plus I don't believe Steve's cable went through the normal cable cooking option he offers with other cables. I wanted to let the new cable settle in for a bit. I purchased the EVP feet with felt, which will allow me to pivot the X1 around more easily to access the cord on the rear while keeping the feet in place. I will make a point of comparing the cords in the next week.

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    eickenho,

    I owe you some thanks--your inquiry stimulated me to do comparisons of the stock vs. AudioSensibility DC cable. As always in these things, results in your personal system may vary from mine. I played music for about an hour before making changes today. I find letting the tubes settle in for an hour or so gives a better presentation.

    As backround, I leave power on constantly with the Lumin X1 PSU. I am using a Vinnie Rossi L2 Signature DHT preamp with 300B Living Voice DHT tubes. After release of Leedh Processing, I have experimented with going direct to an active crossover and really liked the dynamics and transparency. I considered eliminating my preamp. Voice clarity was there in spades, but I felt I was missing what I considered as more natural and realistic voice qualities. I made some cabling changes and feel the Vinnie Rossi provides more of that quality I was seeking.

    After the hour of playing, I turned off the VR preamp, used the Lumin App to power down the X1 and then shut off the X1 PSU. I had hoped I would be able to move the X1 and PSU around easily without changing the position of the EVPs. I was naive on that. Movement of the units was easy, but the EVP footers did not stay in the same position. Unfortunately, that variable is very important. I have found in the past that positioning of various additional footers have an impact on presentation. I have a number of Herbie's Tenderfeet footers. I have noticed that positional changes make a difference in presentation. I initially tried these after initially using the standard supplied Lumin footers. I later on purchased a set of Daedalus DIDs. I preferred them over the Herbie's. I then later purchased 4 of the A/v RoomService Medium 2" EVPs. Later I added Low 2" EVPs under the X1 PSU. I prefer those over the others. All manifest differences with even small movements, but the EVPs seem the most sensitive to me. Even micro position changes slightly alters sound presentation to me. I would not have guessed that to be the case, but those changes are slight tuning factors. Due to not being able to exactly match their positioning with moving the X1 and PSU for cabling changes, there undoubetly are some presentation differences in my listening tests with the DC cables due to these feet changed positions.

    I changed the AS cable for the stock Lumin one. I went through a list of songs I truly like of both male and female vocals that have varied texture. I used Roon with some of the music coming from my SonicTransporter i5 CDR server hard drive and some streaming form Qobuz. My initial impression was a bit more forward vocal presentation. I do not mind a bit more forward vocal presentation. All the song selections with the stock cable were certainly listenable and enjoyable. I did think, however, that a Paul Carrack Live: The Independent Years Volume 1 of Sllent Running, Live at Shephard's Bush Empire (Qobuz) was not as I had recalled recently. I changed the Lumin cable to the AudioSensibility one and moved the feet back to same approximate positions. I started with the Paul Carrack Silent Running again. I did notice real differences in the presentation. First, volume seemed higher at same preamp setting with more dynamics and information--instruments seemed more present, defined, and separated. Imaging was better and soundstage also seemed wider. While all the music selections seemed to share similar differences, some were far more subtle. I am not unhappy with the stock Lumin cord, but I am going to keep the AudioSensibility cord in place.

    I am certainly not recommending everyone change their Lumin stock cord. However, if you are looking to go to a shorter cord or change for any reason, I would recommend consideration of AudioSensibility. I have a couple other items made by AudioSensibility and have been pleased.

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    further,

    I went ahead and purchased the .5m AudioSensibility DC. Steve was a pleasure to do business with. Thanks for letting me know about this cable.

    Marilyn

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    I too found working with Steve pleasant business experiences. Please let us know your impressions of this cable in your system. With some pieces of equipment I have wondered if break in was as much about me becoming accustomed to changes in presentation as the units burning in with accumulated playing, I really believe break in was a real phenomenon with my Lumin X1. The AS DC cable sounded fine from the beginning to me, but do believe there has been enhancement in the music presentation as I have accumulated a month of playing my system with it. As noted prior, I made some other changes as well, but I perceived a real difference when I did comparisons with the stock cable and the AS recently. While some selections seemed more subtle, some seemed quite pronounced. I very much would like to know your impressions as it settles into your system.

    Good luck and enjoy,
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    Will,

    I will do. I made several upgrades all at the same time - bought the X1 (replaced an Esoteric N-05), replaced the home audio guy’s stock ethernet cable with a Nordost Heimdall 2 ethernet cable, added the EtheRegen, replaced the standard X1 cable with the AS DC cable - so it might be difficult for me to evaluate how each change added to the improvement in performance. But, the sound has definitely improved.

    Take care,
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    Re: Replacement power cable for Lumin X1

    My X1 is arriving soon and I would like to begin burning it in 24/7. Does the music have to be playing with the amp for the burn in?

    thanks

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    Re: Replacement power cable for Lumin X1

    Please play music of different sampling rates in repeat mode. If you use a solid state pre-amp, leave it on. You may turn off the power amp if necessary, but the interconnects must remain connected.
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    I am currently using a Lumin S1 with an X1 power supply. I have approached Steve about making me a 0.5 metre cable, however he needs the pinout diagram for the X1 to S1 cable. He suggested I email Lumin for this but they have not responded. Does anybody know where I can find this information?

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    Re: Replacement power cable for Lumin X1

    Quote Originally Posted by petercalv View Post
    pinout diagram for the X1 to S1 cable.
    For the X1 to S1 DC cable, only need pin 1 to pin 6 (as labelled on the connector) connected:
    1: +12V
    2: GND
    3: +12V
    4: GND
    5: -12V
    6: GND

    Note that pin 1/2 need to be rated for 1.5A.
    Peter Lie
    LUMIN Firmware Lead

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    Re: Replacement power cable for Lumin X1

    Quote Originally Posted by wklie View Post
    For the X1 to S1 DC cable, only need pin 1 to pin 6 (as labelled on the connector) connected:
    1: +12V
    2: GND
    3: +12V
    4: GND
    5: -12V
    6: GND

    Note that pin 1/2 need to be rated for 1.5A.
    Thank you so much Peter.

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    Re: Replacement power cable for Lumin X1

    Just found out that the 1/2M (about 18") cable from AS costs $650! Wow! We are only talking 20-22 gauge wire that is approx. 18" long. The cost per inch is over $35 dollars!

    ozzy

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    Re: Replacement power cable for Lumin X1

    Quote Originally Posted by ozzy View Post
    Just found out that the 1/2M (about 18") cable from AS costs $650! Wow! We are only talking 20-22 gauge wire that is approx. 18" long. The cost per inch is over $35 dollars!

    ozzy
    That price is nothing compared to the Westminster Labs cable.

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    Re: Replacement power cable for Lumin X1

    Unbelievable! Why is it so much money? It is a short small gauge cable.

    ozzy

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    Re: Replacement power cable for Lumin X1

    AudioSensibilities have produced some very nice cables, all at somewhat reasonable prices.
    However they seem to have lost their "Sensibilities" on this one.
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    Cables & Tubes "subject to change without notification".
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