New Lumin Models ?

**steinkrieg** · April 23, 2018, 10:17 PM

I'm checking into the Lumin models these days... They seem fantastic, yet some models (like the S1) are going on 4 years old now. I know they can be updated, but I'm wondering if new models are in the works. It would be too bad to spend the money on something like an S1 only to have a new one come out shortly thereafter. Does anyone here have insight?

Thanks!

**dimfer** · April 24, 2018, 12:21 AM

I was told a while ago that the S1 is due for an update this year, curious to know when the update will come as well

**Ritmo** · April 24, 2018, 08:31 AM

While I’m very happy with my S-1, there’s been a lot of development in the digital space. Lumin has done an exceptional job updating its products to support MQA, Tidal, and Roon at no cost to customers. But, I would expect some new products on the near future.

**BlueFox** · April 24, 2018, 11:08 AM

I would like to move my S1 into the HT/spare stereo, and put a better Lumin in its place in the stereo. However, I do not want to see a better Lumin at Esoteric prices.

**wklie** · April 28, 2018, 01:07 PM

I have received a PM asking when we will see a future model. Thanks for everyone's interests, but I cannot answer this question.

Those who are going to Munich can ask my bosses about it. We've been pretty busy preparing for Munich.

**wklie** · May 7, 2018, 11:09 AM

3 days till Munich.

**audio.bill** · May 7, 2018, 11:32 AM

Not attending Munich but anxiously looking forward to a new reference level product introduction from Lumin!

**Ritmo** · May 7, 2018, 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by audio.bill

Not attending Munich but anxiously looking forward to a new reference level product introduction from Lumin!

+1 ...

**audio.bill** · May 8, 2018, 06:41 PM

From Lumin's Facebook page, another teaser to keep us going...

2 days to go!

Our team have just touched-down in Munich and are preparing something special for the show attendees.
Stay tuned!

**BlueFox** · May 8, 2018, 07:44 PM

Probably hors d'oeuvres for the attendees.

**thingswelike** · May 9, 2018, 03:49 AM

Originally Posted by BlueFox

Probably hors d'oeuvres for the attendees.

You can enjoy your hors d'oeuvres right now!

**wklie** · May 9, 2018, 03:56 AM

Anybody knows what these pictures mean? The top right hand corner picture is much harder to guess.

**kodomo** · May 9, 2018, 07:33 AM

It's an FPGA by Intel called cyclone 4. Its programmable to do whatever the manufacturer wants, its a base system. As far as I can see, the photos show mostly that. I guess, they are trying to say, they have a new player/server coming up with an updated fpga. However, this is not the best series of Intel fpgas, they are a lower cost solution, but most probably more than enough to do the job. The best ones are stratix series, and then aria. After aria comes the cyclone series.

**thingswelike** · May 9, 2018, 07:45 AM

Ah - but what is this particular FPGA linked to?

**vortrex** · May 9, 2018, 08:40 AM

Fiber network port. Is Lumin the first to do that?

**thingswelike** · May 9, 2018, 08:47 AM

Originally Posted by vortrex

Fiber network port. Is Lumin the first to do that?

We believe so!

**Mike** · May 9, 2018, 08:51 AM

Originally Posted by thingswelike

We believe so!

It looks like the Pro ISL MSB uses.

I bet this is some streamer above the S1. But no, I don’t know for sure.

**CPP** · May 9, 2018, 09:38 AM

It looks like a two box solution, A Transport ( one box) connected to and a supporting DAC/Streamer is my guess.

**wklie** · May 9, 2018, 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by CPP

It looks like a two box solution, A Transport ( one box) connected to and a supporting DAC/Streamer is my guess.

Good guess, but no. The top one is a network player with analog outputs. The bottom one is...

**Mike** · May 9, 2018, 09:59 AM

New REF DAC?

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

**wklie** · May 9, 2018, 10:01 AM

Originally Posted by Mike

It looks like the Pro ISL MSB uses.

We're adopting standard optical fiber network. The MSB uses fiber for its proprietary signal connection, to my knowledge.

**thingswelike** · May 9, 2018, 10:01 AM

The biggest clue is easy to miss. It's on the center-left image.

**wklie** · May 9, 2018, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by Mike

New REF DAC?

No. This would be a surprise, extending outside our established product line.

**wklie** · May 9, 2018, 10:04 AM

Originally Posted by thingswelike

The biggest clue is easy to miss. It's on the center-left image.

Wow yes. I missed that too until I saw it on my 65" TV.

**thingswelike** · May 9, 2018, 01:11 PM

More clues.
Two products. Both playing simultaneously at the booth.

**rrwmd** · May 9, 2018, 01:30 PM

Grrrrr!
The...suspense...is...killing...me!

**Archon** · May 9, 2018, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by wklie

Wow yes. I missed that too until I saw it on my 65" TV.

Yeah, I didn't see that either..."Balanced in Right". Good eye!

**thingswelike** · May 9, 2018, 03:00 PM

So have you worked it out Archon?

**Archon** · May 9, 2018, 03:05 PM

Originally Posted by thingswelike

So have you worked it out Archon?

If there is a "Right" it must be analog in, so I'm guessing an amplifier?

Thanks for the challenge!
Mike

**thingswelike** · May 9, 2018, 03:16 PM

I could not possibly say... until tomorrow

**petercalv** · May 9, 2018, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by Archon

If there is a "Right" it must be analog in, so I'm guessing an amplifier?

Thanks for the challenge!
Mike

Hopefully a headphone amplifier with balanced connections. This would be a good alternative to the Chord DAVE

**wklie** · May 9, 2018, 09:24 PM

Originally Posted by thingswelike

I could not possibly say... until tomorrow

Technically it's May 10 today in my timezone.

**kzhtoo** · May 9, 2018, 10:31 PM

Bottom one is power supply and finally, the light on the power supply and the light on the player match?

**thingswelike** · May 10, 2018, 03:21 AM

Who was right then?

**CPP** · May 10, 2018, 09:31 AM

Wow an class A/B 160 watt Amp

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