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    Re: My New Lumin

    Just realized that the display on the D1 does not show the album artwork when playing a track, which my Cambridge CXN does.
    I'll get used to it.
    I do like seeing the artwork while I'm playing an album though, especially after spending ages embedding the artwork into each track.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Showroom Dummies View Post
    Just realized that the display on the D1 does not show the album artwork when playing a track, which my Cambridge CXN does.
    I'll get used to it.
    I do like seeing the artwork while I'm playing an album though, especially after spending ages embedding the artwork into each track.
    You can always mount your control point on top of the system (or on a coffee table etc) and have it showing the artwork. You can make the iPad/iPhone not sleep while in this mode.
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    Re: My New Lumin

    If you have more than one iPad, you can even leave one permanently showing the album art, and use another iPad for control. That's what we do in Lumin exhibitions.
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    Re: My New Lumin

    Quote Originally Posted by wklie View Post
    If you have more than one iPad, you can even leave one permanently showing the album art, and use another iPad for control. That's what we do in Lumin exhibitions.
    Peter...I did figure out how to create a new "MQA album" folder in Playlists under My Music in Tidal. I added the MQA albums through Tidal in Roon and they appear in that folder in the Tidal section in the Lumin app. Very easy.thanks for your suggestion. Dave
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    Re: My New Lumin

    Started using the D1 this morning and so far I'm not happy with the sound.
    It sounds like there is a filter in front of the speakers?
    I know the D1 needs a good few hours of use, but I was expecting more than this for the price!
    I will have to get a Sbooster and see if that makes a difference, and from what I've read, it does.
    But why make a top quality product with a rubbish power supply?
    Perhaps the sound produced is different from what I had from my Cambridge CXN which I thought was very good and will have to get used to.

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    What do all the settings do when using the Lumin app?
    If I remember correctly, the D1 can covert everything it plays to DSD and if it does, how do I turn this on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Showroom Dummies View Post
    What do all the settings do when using the Lumin app?
    If I remember correctly, the D1 can covert everything it plays to DSD and if it does, how do I turn this on?

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    I've just come across an explanation of the settings on the Lumin website.
    I don't seem to have settings to convert to DSD though?
    I have changed the setting 'Analog Audio Output Level' to low which has made a bit of a difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Showroom Dummies View Post
    I don't seem to have settings to convert to DSD though?
    I have changed the setting 'Analog Audio Output Level' to low which has made a bit of a difference.
    Turn on Custom Re-sampling. In the options for 44.1 to 96kHz, there is a DSD option.

    Analog Output Level should set to Normal, unless your system has too much gain.

    Use balance XLR cable if your pre-amp supports it.

    Turn off Roon Ready if you don't need it.

    Turn off Digital Audio Output if you don't need it.

    Please fill in the playlist with music of different sample rates, turn on repeat, and let it burn in 7x24 for at least a week. Turn off the poweramp when not used.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wklie View Post
    Turn on Custom Re-sampling. In the options for 44.1 to 96kHz, there is a DSD option.

    Analog Output Level should set to Normal, unless your system has too much gain.

    Use balance XLR cable if your pre-amp supports it.

    Turn off Roon Ready if you don't need it.

    Turn off Digital Audio Output if you don't need it.

    Please fill in the playlist with music of different sample rates, turn on repeat, and let it burn in 7x24 for at least a week. Turn off the poweramp when not used.
    I am using XLR cables.
    I can't see the 'Roon ready' option?
    Lumin Android app keeps crashing but 'BubbleDS next' works fine.
    My preamp is passive so passes the audio through untouched.
    I've turned Audio Output Level back to 'normal'.

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    Re: My New Lumin

    Listening to my first DSD: War Of The World's. Impressive.

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    Re: My New Lumin

    What exactly happens when I turn the power off using the Lumin app?
    It must go into standby: Any idea how many watts are used when in standby?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wklie View Post
    Turn on Custom Re-sampling. In the options for 44.1 to 96kHz, there is a DSD option.

    Analog Output Level should set to Normal, unless your system has too much gain.

    Use balance XLR cable if your pre-amp supports it.

    Turn off Roon Ready if you don't need it.

    Turn off Digital Audio Output if you don't need it.

    Please fill in the playlist with music of different sample rates, turn on repeat, and let it burn in 7x24 for at least a week. Turn off the poweramp when not used.
    When playing music 24/7 for burn in, does sound have to come out the speakers for the burn in to work?

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    You can turn off the power amp for burn-in.

    Doing standby in Lumin app turns off the front panel and some outputs. It only saves a little bit of power, but as a digital player it does not consume too much. I think some amplifiers may consume much more power in standby.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wklie View Post
    You can turn off the power amp for burn-in.

    Doing standby in Lumin app turns off the front panel and some outputs. It only saves a little bit of power, but as a digital player it does not consume too much. I think some amplifiers may consume much more power in standby.
    Any idea how many watts are used in standby? Just something I like to know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Showroom Dummies View Post
    Any idea how many watts are used in standby? Just something I like to know.

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    I found the answer:

    20 watts for normal operation.
    15 watts in standby

    15 watts is a lot these days when most use only 0.5 watts!
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    Re: My New Lumin

    ShowroomDummies
    Maybe the product is not for you so maybe you should choose something else as it seems you have many problems with Lumin
    Have you thought of Devialet ?
    It is maybe something you would like much better. !

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    Quote Originally Posted by FDPDK View Post
    ShowroomDummies
    Maybe the product is not for you so maybe you should choose something else as it seems you have many problems with Lumin
    Have you thought of Devialet ?
    It is maybe something you would like much better. !
    I have to give it time to burn in.
    I'm going to run it 24 hours continuously for a week and hopefully it will sound better then, but when I first heard it I was disappointed compared to my cheaper Cambridge CXN.
    I've also just connected the Sbooster to the D1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Showroom Dummies View Post
    I found the answer:

    20 watts for normal operation.
    15 watts in standby

    15 watts is a lot these days when most use only 0.5 watts!
    .015Kw x 24 hours x $0.15/Kwh = $0.054/day. If you are concerned about this, you have chosen the wrong hobby!
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    Re: My New Lumin

    Sorry but i do not follow you at all , i really think you should not wait as i am sure you will never be satisfied.
    Be happy with your Cambridge , instead of all the worry´s from costing to much money to not be what you think it should be.
    Or try Devialet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FDPDK View Post
    Sorry but i do not follow you at all , i really think you should not wait as i am sure you will never be satisfied.
    Be happy with your Cambridge , instead of all the worry´s from costing to much money to not be what you think it should be.
    Or try Devialet.
    I connected my Cambridge back up because I was not enjoying the music anymore, and straight away the sound was better and I started enjoying the music again.
    Please don't think I only have negative things to say about the Lumin but for me it does not work in my system.
    I can't understand why it doesn't, but with the Lumin I felt the sound had a veil in front of it.
    With the Cambridge the sound is more separated and clear: I can pick out instruments better.
    Perhaps there's a setting on the Lumin which is causing the sound I have which I should not have on?
    I can't understand why it doesn't work with my system if it is a audiophile player: Surely it should work with any good system?
    Could there be a problem with it?
    I did not miss a beat since I turned it on and I will miss using it.
    Not sure what I will do with it: Will the company I bought it from take it back or I will have to try and sell it.
    I also have the Sbooster which I bought.

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    Re: My New Lumin

    S.D. - I am really surprised at your last post. The Lumin D1 with Sbooster is an amazing source, so I am wondering what could be going on? Are you playing full resolution files through the D1? (I had a customer that was accidentally playing mp3's in the past) Do you have the volume control and digital out disabled? Any other pieces of the puzzle you can share to help determine if something is not right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archon View Post
    S.D. - I am really surprised at your last post. The Lumin D1 with Sbooster is an amazing source, so I am wondering what could be going on? Are you playing full resolution files through the D1? (I had a customer that was accidentally playing mp3's in the past) Do you have the volume control and digital out disabled?
    Settings consideration also includes De-emphasis (should be Disable), Roon Ready (disable if not used), Analog Output Level (should be Normal), Invert Phase (should be disabled).
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    Thank God!
    I reconnected the D1 and straight away the sound was as it should be.
    The first time I connected the D1 I heard the XLR cables click into place but perhaps one didn't seat itself properly, who knows?
    Or perhaps the D1 did not connect to the LAN properly the first time?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wklie View Post
    Settings consideration also includes De-emphasis (should be Disable), Roon Ready (disable if not used), Analog Output Level (should be Normal), Invert Phase (should be disabled).
    I don't see 'Roon Ready' when using the Lumin Android app to see if it is turned off or not.
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    Re: My New Lumin

    Roon Ready setting is not present in the Lumin Android app yet, but it's due for an update in several weeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wklie View Post
    Roon Ready setting is not present in the Lumin Android app yet, but it's due for an update in several weeks.
    if corrected the errors/crash on android will be great...

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    Re: My New Lumin

    So how do you like the sound now vs the Cambridge?
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    Quote Originally Posted by erniejade View Post
    So how do you like the sound now vs the Cambridge?
    A more cleaner, open sound, better separation. Better bass notes.
    I'm happy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Showroom Dummies View Post
    A more cleaner, open sound, better separation. Better bass notes.
    I'm happy

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    Good choice!
    I upgraded from CXN to A1 one year plus ago.
    Sent for repair one for faulty analog output. But settled by the distributor here in Singapore Audio88 without much issues.
    So I am still a very happy Lumin A1 user now.
    And looking forward for android app!!


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    Re: My New Lumin

    Quote Originally Posted by Showroom Dummies View Post
    I don't see 'Roon Ready' when using the Lumin Android app to see if it is turned off or not.
    This setting has been added to Lumin Android app, along with support for Tidal and Qobuz.
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